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You can even see it in the way the sex industry here is talking about a sex continent as a ghetto. Sex industry is not respected even by the people in it.

It is funny, they act like they don't even want to be associated with eachother.

Actually, I think it's a roundabout invocation of Godwin's Law. That's how I interpret it, anyway.

Yay! I have a meme.

Lets not loose sight of the fact that it’s the parents sole responsibility to safe guard their children on this and any site on the internet. If anyone thinks they can create safe guards on this site that children will not be able to get around you have severally under estimated the intelligent of these kids.

The current Terms of Service are enough!

I certainly haven't heard of any in Holland, If ever you visit Holland i would be glad to give you a tour of our famous Red Light area where you will see all types including families walking through it. But then people here aren't so prudish as some I've met on my travels.

I would love to take you up on that.. If you have replicated Hikone-jo I presume you are living in the Tokugawa shogunate? *makes mental note to dress in kataginu kamishimo when visiting* Are you a no weapons sim? if so I'll leave my swords in inventory... (I teach kenjutsu IRL so I understand the protocol and have the clothes already although I dont use them much in SL) Should I drop you a message inworld?

there is an extra N missing from your name..

"Hi, I'm Nanny and I will be your troll for today... "

People take their kids to prostitutes in Holland?

Customs differ from one society to the next. In most places, that would be considered child abuse.

That's right, Nanny. People in Holland are disgusting, inhuman creatures who drag their poor children to brothels and force them to engage in unspeakable acts.

With donkeys.

And you never see it on the news, either, because IT IS A CONSPIRACY ZOMG

part of a civilization in decline I guess. Kind of like the Romans got before they crashed.

In continental Europe, it is common to flip through the television channels and come across 'pornographic' advertisements. Personally, I find them boring, but no one except American tourists finds them offensive. Topless women appear daily in British tabloid newspapers and Parisian bus shelter posters. Japanese men read graphic novels on the subway. Has anyone seen the TV series "Ebichu"? Hilarious. It would be banned in 0.026 seconds in the United States for both sex and violence. Yet it was a huge hit in Japan. Has anyone seen the Belgian film "Man Bites Dog"? Watch it with Belgian students. They fall over themselves laughing.

By contrast, many Saudi women swim fully dressed at the beaches of Taba, Egypt - and you just try walking down the streets of Tunis as a woman with your long, blond hair uncovered!

Folks, get the picture here. No one holds a wet T-shirt contest in Salt Lake City. No one wears a Hijab in the casinos of Las Vegas. I give 100 people from 100 countries 100 photographs of human beings in various poses in various stages of undress and good luck deciding what is prudish, silly, normal, acceptable or pornographic.

The same goes for violence. You want violence? Watch "Planet Earth" by David Attenborough. Who can forget the battle to the death between two birds - each trying to drown the other - interrupted suddenly my a mink that kills and eats one of them on the spot. Then there is chimp gang warfare, whereby the victors tear apart and eat one of the losers. The footage of killer whales 'torturing' seals is pretty dramatic as well. Should children be allowed to see the truth about animals and the natural world? Should a still photo from the show be banished to the 'Xtreme' continent?

No matter how you twist and turn, there is no way to set 'community standards' on a virtual world as complex and diverse as Second Life - at least not without alienating a significant proportion of the population, particularly entrepreneurs. As outlined in my post "Sanity, Not Sanitation", unorthodox players are often the most creative and productive members of any society.

Compare the teenage pregnancy and abortion rates in Holland with that of the US and UK before you start making yourself look silly again.

I visited the sex museum in Amsterdam, very funny, plenty of female pensioners in there having a giggle.

Honestly I have been real conflicted about this issue. On the one hand I don't think the new zoning is a bad idea overall.

On the other hand I have friends who would be affected and have to move and I am very concerned on how having to be moved would affect their Second Lives.

I certainly don't want to see SL become overly restricted.

In a perfect world here are my views.

PG and LL land; safe for under 18
Mature; Private homes with or without sex beds. No need to watch your language.
Adult; clubs, x rated items, erotic lifestyle. Gor,bsdm,fetish.

Advertising;

PG and LL land; None
Mature; Reasonable and responsible advertising. Nothing explicit.
Adult; Explicit acceptable.

As much as I would love to say that there should not be an adult area; there should because some ppl like to push the boundries far too often. Which ends up being some really twisted stuff. Things I don't want to happen upon.

For example; A friend of mine happened upon a death scene that showed an elaborate noose scene. She was highly offended because her husband had hung himself. If I were her I would be offended too. I went and saw the build and to be honest it was a shocking sight. Not one that I would care to see again either. So this isn't just about sex in SL. IMO. That build was in a Mature area I thought it not only pushed the limits of good taste but crossed the line.

Another example; There are many communities in SL who have under tones of sexuality. While not blatant we know that sex is part of some communities. There is nothing shocking or in your face in their builds. Only behind closed doors. Do we move those ppl who play by the rules in public? I don't think so.

I think its all subjective and drawing a line is going to be hard for LL. I know it is for me.

Cat

Is there a moderator here? Considering the nature of the posts from this user over the last few days - their continued behaviour surely constitutes a warning?

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The corp types in SL may not go to strip clubs and sex places, but they do call on those they know.

What you said is totally off regarding Germany and Holland and you obviously never traveled to either.

High level government people buy sex in D.C. all the time, next to Vegas it is probably has the largest call girl/escort service population in the states.

People have sex - it is nothing to be ashamed about like you would have us believe.

...by narrow-minded people.

Lets not loose sight of the fact that it’s the parents sole responsibility to safe guard their children on this and any site on the internet. If anyone thinks they can create safe guards on this site that children will not be able to get around you have severally under estimated the intelligent of these kids.

The current Terms of Service are enough!

sadly that's like 99.99999999999% of the world >.>

least the ones with tons of money o.o

SL does not have a "Business Casual" dress code.

You still haven't substantiated your claims about your supposed "constituents". Nor explained how this proposal will protect Native Americans from finding Gorean stores in searches.

any child can go on the net and see hard core porn just by clicking a button that says i am over the age of 18. that is a parental problem.
at 18 we have a thing called choice, if you want to go to view a death scene thats your choice.
you can do the same in rl.
faces of death is one site that comes to mind.
we have choice.
use it.
concurrency was 83000 earlier on.
doesnt that say something?

Sites have that "Enter if you are 18" option only to safeguard them from being sued by a parent catching their child on the site. Its accessible to all, obviously, but when that parent goes irate at the fact some site allowed their child to view porn, they get a nice reply by about how the kid had to press the button himself to allow the access. Suddenly the parent is upset with their child, not the site.

You think Barack or Michelle Obama would suffer for being seen using a public sex service? Of course they would. Any public figure would lose respectability by being associated with the sex industry.

Argh I hate playing devils advocate here but Nany Kayo is entitled to their views. LL is wanting to know all of our views; so they can make an informed decision based on our views/opinions on these issues. While we may not all agree I think it is important to hear everyone's views. Pushing around, brow beating, or strong arming; someone who has a view other than mine does no good. It only stops others from speaking up; and that is where the real harm is done.

Cat

Yeah, everyone viewed Dr Ruth as being absolutely slimey.

That's politics, SecondLife I would believe has no actual connection to that. Unless you want to refer to some Linden offering some sort of escort service. Then maybe, just maybe, that would make some sort of point here.

I am ignorant to what you are actually trying to post here. What was it again?