Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Main Forum Thread
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Dogboat Taurog
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03-23-2009 11:56
Blondin, just get it over with. you know as well as i do LL and you dont give a damn what your residents think and you have a plan in place already. this forum is a facade and you know it. Just do it and let me make the arrangements based on what i need to do as quickly as possible.
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Foul Mayo
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03-23-2009 11:57
So Lindens want Adult flag because? They want to assimilate teen grid into main grid and have happy happy family disneyland experience?? And lets say you wear like prim "clothing" and it fails to rezz in the goody goody lands and then you have nipple pixel slippage so to speak, what will happen? You will get banned? Or like you just cant wear skins with naughty pixels in the candyland?
Seriously i can kinda understand that SL has shitty image and its not really hip to let people know irl that you have SL account, but even if you move them pervs under the carpet it wont change. Well maybe only to prove like "See im not verified im not in SL for avvie grinding" but ofcourse you can have alts for that and you are still a moron for paying real moneys for virtual goods.
I would suggest to have a poll that everyone has to answer upon login to clarify this situation cause i have this feeling there might be more of those who will be pushed under the carpet than those who wont be.
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Kara Spengler
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03-23-2009 11:57
From: Blondin Linden We are aware of that issue. So do you have an AI for detecting minced oaths before they even exist? I am sure that would be an interesting algorithm!
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Deltango Vale
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03-23-2009 11:59
Blondin, I don't wish to seem unkind, but you must really get out of California and see the world. It's a cool place, full of interesting people. Lots of them smoke and drink and get up to all sorts of mischief. It's called fun.
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Lord Sullivan
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03-23-2009 12:00
From: Blondin Linden Today's Trivia Question: In what USA town will you find a strip club on Main Street? (Google it, its fun  ) Seriously though, I have a tough time picturing any town that would feature a strip club on a centralized street. When you are in Amsterdam next i will take you on a tour 
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Catriana Ninetails
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03-23-2009 12:00
From: Foul Mayo
I would suggest to have a poll that everyone has to answer upon login to clarify this situation cause i have this feeling there might be more of those who will be pushed under the carpet than those who wont be.
A Better idea than "Is your SL experience getting better or worse?" for sure. I answered worse, by the way.
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Argent Stonecutter
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03-23-2009 12:02
From: Deltango Vale Blondin, I don't wish to seem unkind, but you must really get out of California and see the world. It's a cool place, full of interesting people. Lots of them smoke and drink and get up to all sorts of mischief. It's called fun. __________________ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." - Mark Twain
Did you pick that quote for this thread?
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Rival Destiny
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03-23-2009 12:02
From: GreenKnight Kaul Ok if i remember right the whole purpose of this proposal was to prevent people from randomly walking into thing they may find objectionable. So what you are saying is don't put potentially offensive things in the ad. So ResidentX goes to see a cuddly stuffed bear. They wonder around the shop and find the sex animation room, which wasnt on the advertisement. They get offeneded and file an report. Who loses in this scenario?
Hmmm please explain how this works to keep people from randomly finding thierself in "adult" situations. Maybe i've not been getting enough sleep but this seems contradictory. Yes very contradictory.
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Ciaran Laval
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03-23-2009 12:02
From: Blondin Linden Today's Trivia Question: In what USA town will you find a strip club on Main Street? (Google it, its fun  ) Seriously though, I have a tough time picturing any town that would feature a strip club on a centralized street. You never been to London or Manhattan?
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Kara Spengler
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03-23-2009 12:02
From: Minx Eisenhart wouoldnt surprise me if Child avis are next to be banned after all you cant take pics of them in any form with an adult avi not even in a normal loving family enviorment A good part of why I am involved in this issue. If LL can act like this to one group of their customers, it can just as easily be another.
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minoko Aeon
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03-23-2009 12:02
From: Kara Spengler Here in DC there used to be one on Pennsylvania Avenue. Yes, THAT Pennsylvania Avenue. The guys at the White House were always going there after work since it was only about 2 blocks from us. man guess I moved here top late for that unfourtunately
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Deltango Vale
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03-23-2009 12:06
From: Argent Stonecutter Did you pick that quote for this thread? Yeah, but then I switched threads and forgot to put it back, though it gets a bit boring after the 25th post 
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Catherine Cotton
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03-23-2009 12:09
From: Rene Erlanger its not even about Content which is more important as regards a Commerical SIM.....the problem of flagging Adult on a Residential sim is quite simple. Friends List! How many on your Friends List won't be able to visit you at your home because they are not verified or NPIOF? Even more bizarre if a couple that own/ rent a plot of land and one of them is verified and the other is not! Supposing that person doesn't want to verifiy for whatever reason? its not so straight forward to flag everything at the highest level (Adult)....trust me, I gave it some thought regarding my own Estate. Rene; For the most part I do agree with you. It is not as clear cut or as easy as LL would like us to think it's going to be. There will be many ppl displaced. Many angry ppl will end up getting land that just plain sucks. One Solution for us estate owners; Access lists. Your not allowed on my land without my permission. You don't need to be verified. More so if it's just those that I know and allow they sure as hell wouldn't be ARing any activity on my estate. As underhanded or immoral as that may seem; it will be done time and time again. Because it's easy. More so; if I set my estate to PG and no one would be the wiser as to what really goes on behind closed borders. I am waiting for a clear definition of "Adult" from LL. Cat
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Minx Eisenhart
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ppst Blondin
03-23-2009 12:11
We didnt Scare you off showing all the stripp clubs on main St did we?
I can only speak for myself but i just wanted to point out how confining and unfair these new rules can be its reminds of ( and i hate to say this becouse it is no real comparison but) the seprate but equal segergation of the early 20th centry, Why does Linden Labs feel the need for such a strong unyielding policy when theyy can make a few minor chances to the zoning rules and search system that will have the desired effect with out as much dicontentment form its users?
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Fudgey Jenkins
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03-23-2009 12:12
From: Blondin Linden Today's Trivia Question: In what USA town will you find a strip club on Main Street? (Google it, its fun  ) Seriously though, I have a tough time picturing any town that would feature a strip club on a centralized street. taboo in orange county, it's actually on the same street you take to a few highschools and frys electronics http://orangecounty.citysearch.com/profile/184675/la_habra_ca/taboo_gentlemen_s_club.html  and the sign is also visable from the freeway
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Kara Spengler
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03-23-2009 12:12
From: minoko Aeon man guess I moved here top late for that unfourtunately It was there in the 90s but they turned it into a parking lot around 2000. Insert joke about it being near to Clinton but not Bush.
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Catriana Ninetails
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03-23-2009 12:14
From: Catherine Cotton There will be many ppl displaced. Many angry ppl will end up getting land that just plain sucks.
Cat I will happily take a landlocked, flat green sim. That's what I have now...that's what I want to have. One less angry person!
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Minx Eisenhart
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Dry towns
03-23-2009 12:18
this isnt were most of the SL comunity Lives so why make policies to make SL more like it http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/controversies/1140551076.html
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Kiro Druart
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03-23-2009 12:21
I receved a notecard mentioning that weapons of any sort will be considered adult. If this is true then i lose all my shops seeing as i make weapons.
"Swords .. Guns. Vehicles that may have weapons .. Skins that show the full Body ... furniture .. Art works and Art galleries will all be affected."
Is there any truth to that?
Im sorry if this has been answered already, but I dont have time to sort through over 100 pages ._.;
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TLMars Bookmite
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03-23-2009 12:25
From: Blondin Linden Today's Trivia Question: In what USA town will you find a strip club on Main Street? (Google it, its fun  ) Seriously though, I have a tough time picturing any town that would feature a strip club on a centralized street. In my South Bay area of Southern California... Though obviously the main streets are not all named, "Main Street"... Plus - the "Thai Message parlors" that are fronts for prositution Gardena, Lomita, Harbor Gateway, Harbor City, Long Beach, Hawthorn, Lawndale, Lennex... on and on and on... ;-D I don't have to Google they're right there in plan view as are the HUGE and plentiful billboards advertising them in areas where the zoning does not allow them to set up shop.
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Kara Spengler
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03-23-2009 12:28
From: Kiro Druart I receved a notecard mentioning that weapons of any sort will be considered adult. If this is true then i lose all my shops seeing as i make weapons. What is a weapon though? I am a Wiccan .... we often have knives that are *NEVER* used for cutting (athames). Are they weapons simply because of how they are shaped? I would not consider the ritual area on my land adult. Are snowball throwers weapons? What about watermellon shooters? Note that those two use the same scripts as guns.
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Minx Eisenhart
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03-23-2009 12:28
You can see Billboards like this all over the US on higly traveled interstate highways that families drive on daily  Is that Overtly Sexual? but yet allowed in public? theres a line betweening overtly sexual and ixplicit overtly sexual is somthing that should be fine on all mature sims however content of ixplicit nature might be better suited for Adult sims
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Ciaran Laval
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03-23-2009 12:31
From: Kiro Druart I receved a notecard mentioning that weapons of any sort will be considered adult. If this is true then i lose all my shops seeing as i make weapons.
"Swords .. Guns. Vehicles that may have weapons .. Skins that show the full Body ... furniture .. Art works and Art galleries will all be affected."
Is there any truth to that?
Im sorry if this has been answered already, but I dont have time to sort through over 100 pages ._.; No that isn't all true. At the moment nobody knows the truth but the suggestions are it won't be that draconian.
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Siryn Rosse
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03-23-2009 12:35
My suggestion for the land swap would be "same for same". If someone had oceanfront on two sides on the mainland, they should get the same thing on the new continent. They paid for that oceanfront in good faith and should be able to keep it.
A month's tier should be forgiven since there will be rebuilding and shuffling about; during which time they will be on two parcels, or lose business while relocating to one, or both. It's only "2 to 4 percent" after all, so I'm sure LL can suck it up.
Me, I have a small plot in a snow sim, landlocked, on a mountainside close to the ocean. If I relocated, I'd want one like that.
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Viciously Llewellyn
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Vacated Land
03-23-2009 12:35
From: Blondin Linden Ideas have been discussed. If we do a swap, even Steven on land, what would be fair for those who will have to move? Thank you for responding Blondin. Maybe I'm the only one here, but I actually trust you guys to come to a fair resolution on this issue. Certainly an even-Steven land swap would be reasonable. It might not account for lost business, but that is the risk any business takes. I also think "Pornsylvania" will end up being the best thing that has ever happened to the adult industry on SL. My question concerns the land that is vacated on the mainland by those that have to move. What is the plan for this vacated land? This will really be important to those of us that are PG in nature and will not be required to move.
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