Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Main Forum Thread

Here is what Blondin said last week when asked about child AVs on adult land:
"Any avatar on an adult verified account will be able to access adult content."

About USA, I don't know. But in Frankfurt Germany I have 30-40 bank-towers of all famous banks in world and a world famous redlight district in direct neighborhood, (5 meters IS direct neighborhood...) thingy is called "Kaiserstrasse" - there is also one of the biggest railway stations in Europe, usual apartment buildings, schools, a dance school, a language school, a theatre, or 2, one variete, one casual theatre, small-biz-shops, restaurants, McDonalds, Burger King, and millions of people going through each day, because they live there, go to school there. There are bankers, prostitutes, kids, old people, middle class people, any people, travelers from the railway station, a public park is in the very near it is, in one word, just urban and well, peaceful, even while there is also a drug scene and any thing wich is in near of a redlight district. But on the main street is all: peep-shows, sex-shops, porn cinemas and several sidestreets are full of brothels, but as said: the biggest banks are also there, skyscrapers, biz, oh and the opera house even very near and there is literal no problem. Same you have at the Reeperbahn in Hamburg, the Prater and Maria Hilfer street in Vienna/Austrja, some quarters in Paris, Amsterdam, well, in most countries of Europe... and in very quiet well developed kind of rich environment of comfortable suburban areas you find: swinger clubs and private houses with prostitution biz...-or think on Berlin... - there is still street prostitution on one of the most famous main streets...all sorts of scenes, clubs, undergorund things, fetish scenes etc.too - it is just: normal.

Somehow it works, no one complains and i.e. Germany is not a banana-third-world-land, and a big customer base from Germany is in sl...

There are regions on globe, where no one could understand these new rules in game.

well it depends how LL counted this 2-4%. Linden Labs itself it the largest land owner in terms of Sqm Land on the mainland continents.....obviously they don't have sexual content.....so if you were to strip out their Land Mass from total Mainland land mass....it could well be that the Adult content Land is around 10% or more.

where it gets really interesting are the visitors to these Adult Content areas......rofl it certainly not 2-4% of Logins at any given time.....it's far higher percentage that i can't even make a guess at.

By the same token RL businesses would not be allowed to advertise (be seen) the way some have in SL. Some of which is honestly disgusting. RL you can walk by these types of businesses without having to cross the street or avoid all together. In SL some of which is so over the top and in your face; it cannot be avoided. I think that is the difference.

*edit based on the US that is.

You quoted me again I was just surprised when you said and as Ceera clearly explained there are the obvious choices Estate owners can make as well. All i would like to see now are some clear timelines and plans as to what is going to happen next.

Honesty from LL wouldn't go amiss either and thats no bad feelings towards you Blondin as you have to act as instructed, i remember the scripts we had to work from when the Adobe Education servers were left wide open with personal details on

Sort of like the current mature rating then?

My home is on a mainland sim, very pg, but like a lot of mainland is a mature sim.

I hang out a lot at a plot in the sim next door. Extremely kid-safe (I was one of the first officers for it, so made sure it would be that way) but it is owned by someone who will probably have to move.

How about this, Catherine?

No explicit content visible from a public (Linden or PG) property at ground level?

That would match RL advertising restrictions.

I think that would probably be desirable even for the Adult sims.

1 user who lives close and works in Amsterdam agrees tho as an ex pat from UK the laws are stricter there, think thats why we get a lot of Brits in Amsterdam sex and smoke lol

I guess I was just being lazy. It took me long enough to find the original post so I just figured a lot of people must have read mine and would not see an edit.

This is true. And if it had been dealt with a long time ago, perhaps a lot of the problems we are discussing would be gone, or at least minimalized.

and that can all be fixed with an update to Lindens zoning
what they will have to do now anyways
so why all this extra trouble?

so whens the digital sky gonna start falling? o.o

Lulz?

Well the first place that comes to my mind... Las Vegas, Nevada. The Vegas Strip is definitely a main street with plenty of nudie bars and stripper joints.

Also, let us not forget California! F Street Adult Video and Gifts. San Diego, California Downtown in the heart of the GasLamp area doesn't get much more central than that really. Right next to Horton Plaza Mall, and restaurants and bars, hotels, as well as a Starbucks and many Government Buildings. Just in case you aren't aware what kind of content F Street provides...

Through the bare white exterior of the sex shop - one in a chain of F Street shops in San Diego - are orderly rows of videos, sex toys, oils, and fetish gear. Risqué bachelorette party-style gifts include edible underwear and body part-shaped candies, but the shop sells more x-rated products for adult entertainment that the cashiers are more than willing to describe. DVDs are available for rental or purchase.

I'm guessing they picked that location based on good traffic from the local restaurants, bars, and hotels. =P

Blondin,

If your still reading can you make some comments on the violence side of things? There are systems like CI and DCS that involve fighting. CI has blood particles rez when your "hit." Is this considered mature?

Murakami-san, what a lovely description of your sim. Exactly the kind of quality construction LL should be fostering, not stifling or ghettoising. It almost makes me want to respectfully ask for a tour!

Originally Posted by Blondin Linden
Ideas have been discussed. If we do a swap, even Steven on land, what would be fair for those who will have to move?


Original plots can either to be kept or abandoned.

Professor Milos brings up a good point. Not everyone has a nice tidy square or rectangular lot.

There are also the cases of those of us who have more than one mainland lot that you will have to consider.

For example I own 3968 sq meters of mainland in total.
*2048 expensive protected road in one location. *1920 inexpensive (because my back garden butts up against a toxic waste building spewing smoke) with a nice beach cove ocean view.

Would I be offered ONE lot equaling the total sq meters or Two? If ONE would I be offered a lot next to a protected road that would be of equal value as my expensive lot or one that is equal in value to my much less expensive lot?

You have many different situations to consider. Not everyone is going to be willing to be as flexable as I have previously stated I would be out of consideration to my Adult Content brothers & sisters who have long established businesses. And, they shouldn't be. They have earned the right not to be. You should do your best to make those who have to move as whole as possible. Especially those long established businesses - they deserve it. It won't be an easy task.

Domo arigato. I would be happy to give you a tour. My land includes a full-scale re-creation of Hikone Castle, as well. It's my home in SL, and the original in Japan is considered a National Treasure.

Fortunately, I live on a private sim that is intended to be all-adult, so I will not have to relocate. It would be impossible to re-create my quarter of a sim on the new Adult Continent, unless they allowed me a full 100 M terraform range.

I can reel off a dozen places in New York City, one of the most prominent was the Metropole on Broadway in Times Square. Even in my little town in Jersey there is a go go bar about half a block from a church, and an adult bookstore alongside the usual diner, convenience store and hardware store on the main street. But, they are fairly discreet in their outward appearance.

Right where I live, actually, in the Dayton, Ohio area. It's not next to a church or a daycare center or anything like that, but it's there. On main street.

Not that I frequent such establishments. I'm too busy playing Second Life. At least until I get fed up and flounce.

Seconded

That would classify as a violent act! Away to Pornodelphia with you!

I can imagine a strip club on a centralized street in some places. Can't imagine anyone who cares about accomplishing anything useful in life wanting to be seen in it. People who use public sex facilities are universally disrespected. No high level government or corporate leader would want to be seen buying public sex services, or selling public sex services.

People lose their jobs for using public sex services, probably even in Holland and Germany, because it is universally considered unprofessional, undignified, inappropriate behavior, not something a respectable person would do.

Unless you're a priest.