Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Main Forum Thread

Katheryne Helendale...Now that is funny!

"Premium Account: $9.95
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Sounds kinky! Oh, I dunno... You might find things are different here if you actually tried, instead of ducking and dodging every question and request for elaboration that comes your way.You never did respond to my call that your ideology just effectively shut down every sexual-abuse support service present in SL...

Still waiting...

Funny how these people come on here to dictate morals, yet are apparently fans of Battlestar Galactica. One of the most provocative series ever shown. Lots of blood and sex and death, hell on BSG the humans even have sex with robots (cylons). Un-frakking believable just goes to show that their hypocrisy has no end.

Actually a lot of schools and businesses in SL use shared alts.

We have three - NDN Andel, Tali Turbo, and VirtualNativeLands Beverly. Tali doesn't post in the forums. VirtualNativeLands Beverly probably won't either. NDN Andel might, depending on who is driving. There will be someone using him quite a bit at the end of next month, but this should be resolved by then.

So there you go, no mystery. Mute them all and you are all set.

It seems to me that by moving the "adult" activities, you are doing more than *supporting* one group's needs and choices. you are *favoring* one group's needs and choices. You are, in essense, removing a great many of us and all our works from the view of people who won't trouble themselves to *avoid* us, and yet are offended by our presence.

Now, How does LL come to the conclusion that *we* are the ones who need our own little island way off far away from everyone else?

Ask the residents, and I suspect that you will find that those who wish to be completely insulated in "pg" territory will be the minority, both in numbers, land ownership, and spending.

LL needs to think about what sector of the user base it wants to keep, and whether it wants to cater to conventional morality in formulating a business model.

-V-

thanks, there isn't any point.

I guess I will check back tomorrow and on Monday. This is supposed to be closed on Mar 30, isn't it?

You are not allowed to share accounts, it's a TOS violation.

I'm on education mailing lists, I read of the issues of getting accounts registered, you are not allowed to share accounts, this is inexcusable.

Beggin' the linden's pardon, but nobody has discussed specifics, then why in the name of little green apples have they fired up the servers and started building a whole damn *continent* to hold the displaced masses? And if there is no definition, then how does LL arrive at the figure of 2%-4%?

I seems as though there are a *lot* of slippery details about this plan, and it's cannonballing ahead full steam regardless.

Shouldn't things, y'know, slow down a little until y'all know what the hell is going on?


Just a thought

-V-

The rule is the person who creates the account is responsible.

All of the Annenbergs are shared avatars. All of the avatars with the first name Metanomics are shared. Those are two of many many examples.

Thank you for explaining that to me Viktoria. Much appreciated

Exactly, that's where the problem is...

When you make love, it is not allowed, because you are f**king in SL, no matter how much you fake your orgasm, it is considered as a f**k in Linden's eye.

So Linden really want you to make war, it is acceptable behavior and encouraged by LL.

Making love is against community standard of perverted behavior, and should only be allowed in your dungeon.

Oh, there is; but I suspect you don't want to do it because it would undermine your entire argument.

As you said, "Some people believe rules are only for others."

Just think of a disgruntle employee working for LL selling the list of ID to the rest of the world.

All it takes is one such person to sell your life away.

/me walks up to Bambi's side and hugs Bambi while lightly stroking his?/her?/hir? hair. "You need a hug.. " ^_^

This would lead to leave the planet wich you have under your two feets attached, if you transport your point of view into your daily life. We are from all over the planet, and SL is a mirror of the planet, wich is logical, because we are all real people. Numbers say, that there is a possibility, that over 60 - 65% of the sl community is from Europe, then comes US, Asia, South-America and so on.

We are not "Parent Guided" from age 18 on in most regions of the world. Do you let guide yourself through your parents through the game? And if you have no parents any more for reasons? Does your grandmother/grandfather or a custodian the job, taking you by your hands and leading you through PG rated sims? "Look here my dear, here you see a tree and there is water and over there the sun goes down"....hahahaha

PG....

Mature....

Adult....

All these ratings are complete meaningless for me, since I reach my 38s soon and since I am not an US citizen.

If I am an artist and make a painting as triptychon (three pieces) - left part would be so called adult, middle part would be so called mature, right part would be called PG, where should I hang my artwork as an 38 years old artist for 18+ people? Cutted in three parts and offering each specific part on three different sims, left part on adult sim, middle part on mature sim, right part on PG sim?

Then it were not longer a triptychon.

And in result no one would be able to hang it on his/her wall as a whole piece of art. Even not if I give it away for free, because: in mature and PG regions it would not be allowed, and: mature and PG people, free accounts, this or that account would be unable to take it, or to find it, or to buy it or to adore it or to ignore it (lol).

This is all so dum, stupid, weird, paradox and senseless, that my blood-cables and vein-wires starting to jump out of my anger-swollen neck each time when I start to think about it.

LL should stop this stupid rating campaign immediatly and start to be: Modern and intelligent. This thing here IS 18+ the number 18+ is all what we need and ready, like millions and billions of things on earth are 18+. No salami-tactic-ratings needed and no ratings accepted. Not from me! Not from most people with a brain.

But ok, we know, we cannot come to them with intellect and intelligence and education and knowledge and experience and logic.

For unknown reasons, this works not for them and they are unable to say something to intelligent analyses and questions and educated life experienced hints.

Some started here to bring in cultural, biological, sociological, philosophical, political, media, art, anthropological and whatever science reasons to offer to them.

To help them to get an overview about the fact that they are on the totaly wrong path.

And? Nothing.

Management went into cocoon-mode, while we do explaining them the world, nature, life and the universe...(lol).

3000+ people, soon 4000+ and until summer maybe the whole population in here asked them so far: what is 1 + 1? If a Linden pops up, we get then answers like: Hmmmm? 1 + 1? Let me think. Could be 3? Or maybe 1 and a half? Or 4? What would you suggest?" (Pointing on Blondin and the whole gang)

And if one tells them: 1+ 1 = 2 - then we get an answer like: "this is a good point you brought in, we will explore that and then we do discuss that sometimes along months in several brown bag meetings..."

People, is that possible?

I mean... - this is not normal and not acceptable, or? No! Right?

With such plain ******** (self-censored) we are confronted here.

THIS is what drives normal people crazy and mad! That we get always only kafkaeske non-answers and squeezable fake-decisions, formatted as labyrinth and oracle of delphi comedy! with no entry and no exit, or we get silence and this will go for months now. ...

Wonderful...

This whole US driven rating system is pure nonsense and totaly unnatural. I suggest to the management, to take a rest, take some holidays, travel the world. I will show you Vienna and Frankfurt, Hamburg, Rome and Paris, London, Dublin, Kopenhagen and Amsterdam, Zagreb, Moscow and Lissabon, Barcelona and Madrid and if you pay the flights: Brisbane, Melbourne, Toronto, Dheli, Ankara, Tokyo and Seoul, Beijing and Shanghai, not to mention: Hongkong.

But you can have it cheaper: just use google and the informations about each metropole.

Much to learn about life there! And you can visit me at my home at nights. If I look out of the window in summers, I can see sometimes into other apartments in summers, while all windows vis a vis are open...

And I do not abuse report what I see there, because it is nice and all is 18+ hahahaha and if I would report it, NO police in no city would take notice of that, they would think I would be crazy to report normal life. Because why? Because the whole planet is an adult system if you want to see it so. From oceans grounds up to the top of Himalaya. Nature has no ratings. It is just as it is.

And again my running gag: do not drink water! Never! Because fishes had sex in it! Much! Hahahaha. And all water on earth is used trillions of times, since millions of years by all plants, animals and humans. Imagine that, it went trillions of times through all trunks and genital-sytems of all possible creatures, including homo sapiens in masses...You drink used water if you drink it! Did you know that?

And never visit a zoo with your kids, if you have some. To much open visible genitals there und sometimes: sex.

So, if you are prudish, then avoid to come in contact with water! Water is brutal adult, that stuff. I gave you science proofed evidence here about that factum! Don't touch it. Drink: sand and small stones instead, to feel: clean. Test before, that no dog peed on them, because that would be adult.

And avoid zoos. Because there is a dangerous thing going on:

life!

Very adult life. Often these creatures eating each other, especially outside of zoos in savanna and jungle! Imagine that! And a spider-mum eats the father of her chiildren after they had: spider-sex! So, again: never visit a zoo, if you want not to be outet as being complete audacious and bigot.

This said, the hundred+ time again. Will you learn something from that? No, or?

Cool, it is nice to see someone who is not Anglo posting here.

Grady Vuckovic counts, "3741... 3742..."...

This discussion has made me curious about whether people are actually doing the same stuff in public in other countries that they do in SL.

Do they really not have any difference between public and private overseas? They just do it in the open like the animals in the zoo? In the shops and the offices and government buildings and the schools?

Merging teen and main grid is going too far, especially with doing this, THere are allready teens on the main grid posing as adults, if you merge the two, stagitory cyber sex may actually become a crime, and i doubt they will acept "they said they were 18" any more then real rape. THis brings problems of blackmail, large scale banning, and hundreds of other things, just stop the madness, if a teen wants to be on sl, they can make an account and lie about theire age, nothing stops them, and we can ban them if they try anything, all this does is punish us.

I act the same way in RL as I do in SL.


I hug people I don't know in RL all the time. It's fun.


It creates confusion in my victims each time I do it, but they eventually just smile and hug back. It's all good.


In RL though, people who practice BDSM, or strip clubs, or threates where people do plays involving death, aren't required to move to special adult only continents. Like in RL too, we do it in our homes, or in clubs and do it away from peoples view. And that's all we do in SL, and yet we're being asked to move.

Yes we know your views, you think that every part of SL has just a mass of people having big orgies all over the place, but to be honest, your completely wrong on that. The same way I can tell you the sky is blue, I can tell you that it isn't true. Log in, take a look in SL for yourself. Unless your definition of sex is people standing next to each other, then that just ain't happening in SL.

Like most roleplayers in SL. I actually prefer:
1. To roleplay in IM's.
2. To roleplay in the privacy of my home, or my club's downstairs area.

I don't enjoy doing things like that in public, unless it's maybe a short and simple RP in a club where that is the theme, I stick to private things. And nearly every RPer I know does the same as well. We do so because we like to avoid folks like yourself who would make comments and complain, and to not be rude or annoying to others.

Australia, ok.

Do you guys do a doggy arf haunch move at strangers there? I see a lot of that in SL.

Well, the point most are trying to make here is that SL was created as a sex tool, is a sex tool, and sex is what most people do here most of the time.

It's not in private either. That is the problem. It is advertised, and everybody sees it whether they want to or not.

And why exactly would that be different? the effect is the same- someone dancing in a suggestive way, for the sexual titillation of a roomful of people.

What difference the *nudity* of the stripper? both the stripper and the go-go dancer are doing the *exact same job*... One is just a bigger tease that the other!

See how blurry the line is? I mean really, wouldn't it be a lot easier to create a sanctuary when the sensitive wouldn't ever have to see a dancing girl of *any* kind, except maybe in the privacy of a private home?

I submit (like a lot of other people) that a new *pg* continent is the way to go- allow people to move there as they like, and make it as big as needed.

That way, LL doesn't need to define *anything*. Residents self-select what their limits are, and act accordingly. they define "adult" for themselves, and either stay, or move.

Seriously, can you look at the responses LL has been getting, and still think that this won't result in a *huge* loss of revenue for LL?

-V-

am I the only one that thinks LL is being a bit tacky in doing the bread and circuses thing again?

https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/press/blog/2009/03/27/coming-next-week--1st-annual-second-life-resident-choice-awards

they've managed to organise for this blog to be translated into multiple languages...

but then I suppose this is a very important message.

Since we get to vote for whom we want.. which particular outrage shall we make the most popular? Wonderland? Stepford? somewhere equally off the register for the majority of the sl population?

Call me evil but i do rather like the idea of the most popular site in sl being something that not only is going to be banished to the far reaches of the grid, but is actually what they would consider uber extreme..

just a pr disaster waiting to happen..

/me looks innocently around at you lot..