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03-28-2009 20:44
I'm going to say this, very slowly, so that you might hopefully comprehend: T - H - I - S I -S N - O - T R - E - A - L L - I - F - E ! - ! - ! - ! _____________________
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Nany Kayo
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03-28-2009 20:47
QFT Exactly. plastic trash. Who gives a damn about you? |
Diam Llewellyn
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Go Ahead...Shoot Yourselves in the Foot
03-28-2009 20:47
Adult Content changes = goodbye 98-96% of users
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Minx Eisenhart
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03-28-2009 20:48
its always been my belief the more real a vitural world becomes to someone the more they need a RL
Time to unplug your PC and get out there and socialise with real people hun _____________________
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Paladun Alter
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Yea LL shot them selfs in the foot
03-28-2009 20:49
What can LL say but opps raise the opensource fees ppl had to go somewhere to sell and make money and guess what it worked now LL time to back peddle and get "the dirty stuff " off the mainland and back under it`s rock oppsy well that`s what i see if i`m wrong i`l eat crow it taste like chicken be well and be safe
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Nany Kayo
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03-28-2009 20:52
its always been my belief the more real a vitural world becomes to someone the more they need a RL Time to unplug your PC and get out there and socialise with real people hun We are real people, hun. We really are using this place right here for real business. Deal with it. |
Diam Llewellyn
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03-28-2009 20:54
its always been my belief the more real a vitural world becomes to someone the more they need a RL Time to unplug your PC and get out there and socialise with real people hun Look who's talking |
Kyle Steig
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03-28-2009 20:54
Buisnesses coming to SL? I seen a new up and comming site simular t SL about a month ago strickly for corpate use,( Ive been looking all week for the link but cant find it). SL can in no way compete with that site as far as corprate use goes, It has Powerpoint plugins, Excel Plugins, video confressing, and allows corprate builds, its much like the SL platform, but for stickly corp. use closed to the public.. With just the powerpoint and excel aspects of it it by far blows sl out of the water as a buisness to buisness platform.. they can get alot more done is half the time and still provide a vitural enviorment to walk around in. They had inhouse people for clothing and builds. that was all free and part of the monthy cost for the corp, the corp can request uniforms or a wide array of casual to work clothing pacages along with being able to pick from prebuilt builds or having custom build made to meet there needs. From a Corp stand point there is no way sl can compete with that. I will continue to look for the link and get back as soon as i find it Having actually worked on several RL projects for corporate and educational use of SL involving budgets totaling in the middle 6 figures, I can tell you the problems with the deployments have been: - Cost to train users. - Agent limit in sims. - Complete unreliability of the hosted environment. (SL something like one 9 of reliability of you're generous about it) - Cultural problems with people not naturally accustomed to an Avatar proxy for themselves adapting to the environment. - Firewall and other corporate I.T. issues. SL, metaverse implementations in general, are not mature enough for efficient communication in business and educational contexts *YET*. Ironically, no client has ever balked at the 'Adult' issue since all were taken directly to private sims and and debriefed. Investing in SL needs to have a LONG view of the future and it needs to be done with wide open eyes and a desire to let the natural evolution of the SL culture be a guiding principle in what aspects do and don't work for non-recreational use. if you think about the failures and successes of RL brands and ventures in SL, you will see who seems to 'get it' and who thought "Oooh! I can sell virtual sneakers." - Kyle |
Minx Eisenhart
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03-28-2009 20:57
We are real people, hun. We really are using this place right here for real business. Deal with it. dont tell me to deal with it Lil Ms got a Troll stuck in her panties. I expressed a view point and if you dont like it deal with it!!!! but that is no exsquse to get smart or sassy with me. _____________________
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Kyle Steig
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03-28-2009 20:57
Different for different people. What I am looking forward to is getting the trash out of the advertising stream. We can avoid it if it isn't advertised. One more comment equating the creative work of myself or others to 'trash' or the way we choose to play here as deviant or socially unacceptable and I will file an AR. Learn to communicate in a tone simulating that of a civil and mature adult instead of savaging everything you don't understand with an endless stream of bile. - Kyle |
Jenn Loring
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03-28-2009 20:59
Different for different people. What I am looking forward to is getting the trash out of the advertising stream. We can avoid it if it isn't advertised. So it can be replaced with a different trash. The real life corporate advertising trash. |
Nany Kayo
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03-28-2009 21:04
Having actually worked on several RL projects for corporate and educational use of SL involving budgets totaling in the middle 6 figures, I can tell you the problems with the deployments have been: - Cost to train users. - Agent limit in sims. - Complete unreliability of the hosted environment. (SL something like one 9 of reliability of you're generous about it) - Cultural problems with people not naturally accustomed to an Avatar proxy for themselves adapting to the environment. - Firewall and other corporate I.T. issues. SL, metaverse implementations in general, are not mature enough for efficient communication in business and educational contexts *YET*. Ironically, no client has ever balked at the 'Adult' issue since all were taken directly to private sims and and debriefed. Investing in SL needs to have a LONG view of the future and it needs to be done with wide open eyes and a desire to let the natural evolution of the SL culture be a guiding principle in what aspects do and don't work for non-recreational use. if you think about the failures and successes of RL brands and ventures in SL, you will see who seems to 'get it' and who thought "Oooh! I can sell virtual sneakers." - Kyle Filthy Fluno is our business model. We may be able to use other virtual worlds platforms, but what we need to sell enough artwork to make a real difference is very broad international exposure. We can't be locked away on a private sim. |
Nany Kayo
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03-28-2009 21:05
One more comment equating the creative work of myself or others to 'trash' or the way we choose to play here as deviant or socially unacceptable and I will file an AR. Learn to communicate in a tone simulating that of a civil and mature adult instead of savaging everything you don't understand with an endless stream of bile. - Kyle Sorry, I thought that was the customary tone here. It's what I am hearing. |
Bambi Newall
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03-28-2009 21:08
23rdDjin Negulesco why bother and like the other poster said.. they have stopped reading so the rest is just people venting and nany having fun I would guess. I personally think this was done so that when countries like Austrlia how ever it's spelled i am one eye open and ready for bed... are talking about making some kind of " clean net" filter device.. this sudden move is to allow people from this country the ability to be in second life without having to be blocked, and like one poster said maybe make access by a countries I.P. blocked from the adult areas. This could also be another phase in the I.D. system towards the whole grid becoming I.D verified.. my guess there but makes sense rather than throw it all at the whole population at once. I mean you know damn well when people start making under ground sex areas to work the system it will be exposed on some news channel and then... BAM!.. the whole grid will be verified. If I thought of it you know a thousand others have too. we have new blood behind the wheel of second life with new ideas and they want to make money. People can still do what they have been doing and linden labs has said they are looking into other avenues of proving a persons identity with this third party. who knows what it is but I am sure they are working on a workable solution. a month or two down the road people will be back to doing what they were doing and adapt to the new standerd. Yea Change is scarey isn't it? oh well it always works out in the end. Which planet are you living in? The Child Online Protection Act (COPA) who attempted exactly what LL had tried for age verification, had been struck down by the US Supreme Court as unconstitutional, unenforceable, and invasion of privacy. Even the most dictatorial superpower in the world who attempted to regulate the internet failed. It is a dead law. http://epic.org/free_speech/copa/ The .xxx domain name website proposal who attempted to regulate the internet with a simple .xxx domain to filter the adult content also failed because the international community that governs the entire internet world saw that it is unenforceable and ludicrous to even think that it would have any real world effect, except create a land rush and land grab that make a few entrepreneur rich. It is the politician's fantasy, but would have absolutely no real effect whatsoever. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.xxx To think you can block any internet content is living in the stone age. You can tunnel through any internet filtering blocker through proxy servers. Are you really living in a fantasy world? |
Nany Kayo
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03-28-2009 21:12
One more comment equating the creative work of myself or others to 'trash' or the way we choose to play here as deviant or socially unacceptable and I will file an AR. Learn to communicate in a tone simulating that of a civil and mature adult instead of savaging everything you don't understand with an endless stream of bile. - Kyle Um, are you sure it really is abuse to equate your work with trash? That is pretty normal-range critique. Where is your work? Also, don't know how you choose to play here. I haven't said anything about you, certainly not that you are "deviant" or "socially unacceptable". I don't know who you are. Hope you are not that tall guy with a horse dong exposing himself that I heard about. If so, I'm sorry. Nothing personal. |
Kyle Steig
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03-28-2009 21:16
Filthy Fluno is our business model. We may be able to use other virtual worlds platforms, but what we need to sell enough artwork to make a real difference is very broad international exposure. We can't be locked away on a private sim. I've never met an artist who likes censorship. I've also never met him but I would hazard a guess he wouldn't think too highly of the thing you're pushing. Precisely the opposite. Why don't you ask him to post here? I've never met an artist who likes censorship and, unlike some of what the Lindens propose, you seem to be advocating precisely that. Crys, Cat, Anna or myself will be approaching him about the *I* Am Adult Content group as well. Cat would be my preference given the shared art background and interest. - Kyle |
Katheryne Helendale
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03-28-2009 21:17
We are real people, hun. We really are using this place right here for real business. Deal with it. _____________________
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Nany Kayo
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03-28-2009 21:18
I've never met an artist who likes censorship. I've also never met him but I would hazard a guess he wouldn't think too highly of the thing you're pushing. Precisely the opposite. Why don't you ask him to post here? I've never met an artist who likes censorship and, unlike some of what the Lindens propose, you seem to be advocating precisely that. Crys, Cat, Anna or myself will be approaching him about the *I* Am Adult Content group as well. Cat would be my preference given the shared art background and interest. - Kyle He's just somebody selling artwork in RL and SL. I have no idea about his sex practices. |
Nany Kayo
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03-28-2009 21:18
We are real people too, hon. We really are using this place right here for real entertainment. Deal with it. You just said you are not real. You are fake "adult" content. |
Minx Eisenhart
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03-28-2009 21:21
Um, are you sure it really is abuse to equate your work with trash? That is pretty normal-range critique. Where is your work? Also, don't know how you choose to play here. I haven't said anything about you, certainly not that you are "deviant" or "socially unacceptable". I don't know who you are. Hope you are not that tall guy with a horse dong exposing himself that I heard about. If so, I'm sorry. Nothing personal. Incase your not familar with the defination of Degrading TO DEGRADE, DEGRADING. To, sink or lower a person in the estimation of the public. Intolerance Combating intolerance is a cornerstone of Second Life's Community Standards. Actions that marginalize, belittle, or defame individuals or groups inhibit the satisfying exchange of ideas and diminish the Second Life community as whole. The use of derogatory or demeaning language or images in reference to another Resident's race, ethnicity, gender, religion, or sexual orientation is never allowed in Second Life. Calling others work Trash is Degrading and aginst the comunity standerds _____________________
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Fudgey Jenkins
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03-28-2009 21:24
Incase your not familar with the defination of Degrading Intolerance Combating intolerance is a cornerstone of Second Life's Community Standards. Actions that marginalize, belittle, or defame individuals or groups inhibit the satisfying exchange of ideas and diminish the Second Life community as whole. The use of derogatory or demeaning language or images in reference to another Resident's race, ethnicity, gender, religion, or sexual orientation is never allowed in Second Life. Calling others work Trash is Degrading and aginst the comunity standerds *claps!* |
Nany Kayo
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03-28-2009 21:27
Incase your not familar with the defination of Degrading Intolerance Combating intolerance is a cornerstone of Second Life's Community Standards. Actions that marginalize, belittle, or defame individuals or groups inhibit the satisfying exchange of ideas and diminish the Second Life community as whole. The use of derogatory or demeaning language or images in reference to another Resident's race, ethnicity, gender, religion, or sexual orientation is never allowed in Second Life. I have filed a few ARs based on this that this policy applies to directly. Which of my comments do you think violates this rule? [I though I was supposed to be the one who was overly sensitive here, LOL!] |
Grady Vuckovic
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03-28-2009 21:27
Back! I went off to RL to make lunch. (Pancakes... mmmm...)
I'm just talking about the usual things that would get you kicked out or arrested in most RL public places. I don't need that kind of stuff and don't care about it. I don't want to see it, and don't want to see advertisements for it. What I am concerned with is establishing ordinary standards for public behavior so ordinary businesses can operate here. Does that include shooting people?... because that's still going to be rated as Mature. As it is with most computer games. Infact, if you replace the bullets with glowing shinny things, and the gun with a raygun, and the people with little monsters, it's a kid's game. Funny that eh? One more comment equating the creative work of myself or others to 'trash' or the way we choose to play here as deviant or socially unacceptable and I will file an AR. Learn to communicate in a tone simulating that of a civil and mature adult instead of savaging everything you don't understand with an endless stream of bile. - Kyle DAMN RIGHT! You tell her! Having an entire section of the art world called simply 'Trash' is nothing but a complete lack of respect for others and intolerance in it's full form. Just because YOU (Nany) don't like it, doesn't mean it's trash! Just simply means, you don't like it! Fine. I don't like you, doesn't mean your trash. Not liking something, is just a lack of understanding/ability of how to appreciate it. EDIT: Don't like carrots? Just don't have the right taste buds for it. Don't like wheelcars? Maybe you just don't have the need for them and thus can't appreciate em. Don't like a picture of art? Guess you just don't like the subject. Same logic is for the "sex industry" (I had no idea I'm an industry now to be honest, but apparently I am), if you don't like it, fine, that's your right to not like it. Just means you don't know how to appreciate it's worth. Doesn't mean it, or the people part of it, are trash. And it's highly offensive to call them that. _____________________
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Nany Kayo
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03-28-2009 21:28
"Calling others work Trash is Degrading and aginst the comunity standerds"
No it isn't. LOL!! Go ahead and complain. |
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03-28-2009 21:29
doesn't matter what they look like nude if they don't shove it in my face while I am minding my own business. _____________________
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