uh, no. Can you think of any other reason someone might come to SL? LOL
Because they're panted up and want to be panted down.
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Grady Vuckovic
Not happy with LL
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03-28-2009 14:04
Because they're panted up and want to be panted down. _____________________
I was going to put something really meaningful and insightful here. Then I got distracted by something shinny.
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Oni Nyoki
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03-28-2009 14:04
Flying penises and screaming objects don't actully force anyone to do anything either. They just make it unpleasant to be here. Uh... how about teleport out and mute the objects? Anyway, I highly doubt you've seen flying penises and screaming objects on roleplay sims or clubs, or any other community sim who has a decent management, but rather on public sandboxes, deserted sims and such alike. Get your facts straight first, that doesn't make you look smart at all. |
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NDN Andel
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03-28-2009 14:05
Hell, maybe that is the only reason anybody comes here. I don't know.
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NDN Andel
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03-28-2009 14:08
Uh... how about teleport out and mute the objects? Anyway, I highly doubt you've seen flying penises and screaming objects on roleplay sims or clubs, or any other community sim who has a decent management, but rather on public sandboxes, deserted sims and such alike. Get your facts straight first, that doesn't make you look smart at all. So griefing should be ok. There is no reason to make it against the rules. Anybody who doesn't like griefing can just leave. |
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Kara Spengler
Pink Cat
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03-28-2009 14:08
(about a PG continent)
How is that going to be received by the residents as *anything* other than a good idea? How is there going to be any peer pressure whatsoever about it? Oh please do not tell me you are that naive! |
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Oni Nyoki
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03-28-2009 14:10
So griefing should be ok. There is no reason to make it against the rules. Anybody who doesn't like griefing can just leave. Griefing is against SL ToS, anybody who doesn't like griefing/is griefed can just report the people to LL, like everyone already does, and LL already hands out bans and manages them daily. I don't see where your argument is, really. |
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Grady Vuckovic
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03-28-2009 14:11
I just can't wait till we get to 4000 posts, really, that's the only reason I'm watching this now.
/me realises she's probably the only person laughing in reality right now. _____________________
I was going to put something really meaningful and insightful here. Then I got distracted by something shinny.
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NDN Andel
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03-28-2009 14:12
Griefing is against SL ToS, anybody who doesn't like griefing/is griefed can just report the people to LL, like everyone already does, and LL already hands out bans and manages them daily. I don't see where your argument is, really. Are you some kind of NAZI?!?!!? Where is the FREEDOM AROUND HERE??!!!! |
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Oni Nyoki
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03-28-2009 14:14
Are you some kind of NAZI?!?!!? Where is the FREEDOM AROUND HERE??!!!! Fail to troll. LOL Seriously, if you got nothing else better to do, quit troll'ing without a valid argument on a serious thread. Freedom doesn't equal Anarchy. |
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Bambi Newall
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03-28-2009 14:14
Welcome to the united states of america- In my geographical location, the strip clubs are almost *all* on a main street. same thing for the massage parlors and sex shops. They are in the *commercial* districts, rather that the residential sections, but then it's an urban area. the point is, it's treated as a *business*, albeit one that is zoned in such a way that it can't be within certain distance of a school or church (and to be fair, a school or church may not move within a certain distance of one and then claim that they are violating the law either). Strip clubs are also advertised on billboards along the freeway, complete with risque photos of scantily clad dancers and suggestive comments, albeit without nudity and actual profanity. And *that* is in one of the most repressed, uptight and child obsessed places on the *planet*. So, why should SL get "babyproofed" to an even *greater* degree than RL? -V- What is so wrong about nudity? Go to any nude beach in Europe, and you will find all those grandma and grandpa senior citizens laying naked on the beach. Does it make you want to have sex? It is bizarre to think nudity equals sex or perversion. Who is the abnormal? Who is the warped one? |
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Grady Vuckovic
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03-28-2009 14:15
Are you some kind of NAZI?!?!!? Where is the FREEDOM AROUND HERE??!!!! Freedom applies to when you do something that doesn't hurt or affect anyone else negatively. Griefing is annoying people, and often silencing their ability to express themselves, and thus against the TOS. But having some hardcore cartoon bondage sex in a public club with others in the mainland, doesn't affect anyone other than those who come to the club. As for meeting Gor's in public, it's up to the store owners or the shoppers to AR them. Unless it's a mature parcel, then it's allowed and you need to shop in PG shops only. Or, if it is a mature parcel and the shop owner wants to, they can make it against the rules to perform BDSM in their shop or any roleplaying of it. But that's up to the shop owner. If you have a problem with it, talk to the owner of the shop, it's hardly an event to remove adult content from the mainland over. _____________________
I was going to put something really meaningful and insightful here. Then I got distracted by something shinny.
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NDN Andel
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03-28-2009 14:17
Makes sense tho. If LL doesn't have the right to make rules agains some people, they don't have the right to make rules against anybody. People should be able to do anything they want here.
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Valerius Constantine
*I* am adult content!
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03-28-2009 14:17
Having said that, I do not wish to see Gorean roleplayers go away nor their lands buried deep in the heart of Pornodelphia. Having the freedom to express oneself means having to live with expressions I don't necessarily agree with. When out in public, certain discretion should be exercised by all. That means not making out in the middle of a public square, not leading your concubines on leashes walking on all fours, not showing off your newly-acquired freenises, and so on. All I really ask is that we all show tolerance of expressions we may not agree with, and to not push such tolerances to the extreme. I agree completely. However, and this is simply a personal observation, If crunchy decapitations are going to be exiled to Porn world, then that means that stuff like the "unlucky chair" will be stuck there too, as well as Horror RP. If I have to go to pornoville to watch "Night of the living dead", then I'm gonna be *awfully* pissed if *Slavery* isn't included in the "adult" category too. Of course, I don't think that *either* ought to have to move. I think that people should be given the *option* of moving someplace where they don't have to deal with *either* if the don't want to. that isn't the same thing. -V- |
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NDN Andel
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03-28-2009 14:19
"Freedom applies to when you do something that doesn't hurt or affect anyone else negatively. Griefing is annoying people, and often silencing their ability to express themselves"
How do you know when what you are doing is silencing someone else's ability to express themselves? |
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Bambi Newall
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03-28-2009 14:21
uh, no. Can you think of any other reason someone might come to SL? LOL People come to SL because of the creativity and imagination it facilitates. Read their slogan: "Your World. Your Imagination." Now, it is "Your hell hole. Your prison." |
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NDN Andel
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03-28-2009 14:22
People come to SL because of the creativity and imagination it facilitates. Read their slogan: "Your World. Your Imagination." Now, it is "Your hell hole. Your prison." You can just leave. Nobody is stopping you. |
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NDN Andel
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03-28-2009 14:23
It's not a prison. Nobody has to stay in SL.
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Oni Nyoki
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03-28-2009 14:24
I say people should just have the option to move or flag their sims accordingly, and not be forced to do so, unless anything major happens that makes LL take an action and ask the sim owners to flag/move their sims. Otherwise it just looks like this whole age verification system is another money leeching plan.
 Most these sims have rule cards/a picture on the landmark image/descriptions of the land accordingly, to ANYONE clearly have a guess at what kind of sim they are entering in, and you're entering them by your own will, no one is forcing you. If you enter these sims and be shocked at their content by any way (which I highly doubt since its a community *supposedly* formed by adults already) then you should learn how to read. When I started roleplaying on roleplay sims in SL, I found a golden and always present rule: *Ignorance is no excuse* |
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Bambi Newall
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Concentration Camp
03-28-2009 14:27
It's not a prison. Nobody has to stay in SL. LL is effectively impose an involuntarily mass migration of anyone they deemed dislike to the concentration camp. They are forcing people to move involuntarily. Get it? |
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Grady Vuckovic
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03-28-2009 14:28
It's give and take.
You give a little, you take a little. Don't ask others to conform to your ideas of what is acceptable to the point of moving them. (Giving) But maybe ask them to not practice such things you don't find tasteful in public when your around. (Taking) You take a lot (force moving of hundreds of people), expect to give a lot (anytime you go to sexland, you'll have to face nothing but flying cocks and boobs everywhere you walk, and nobody willing to 'pause' or be 'discreet' with what they're doing just for you). _____________________
I was going to put something really meaningful and insightful here. Then I got distracted by something shinny.
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NDN Andel
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03-28-2009 14:31
LL is effectively impose an involuntarily mass migration of anyone they deemed dislike to the concentration camp. They are forcing people to move involuntarily. Get it? LL can't make you move. All they can do is let you in or kick you out. |
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NDN Andel
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03-28-2009 14:36
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 anytime you go to sexland, you'll have to face nothing but flying cocks and boobs everywhere you walk, and nobody willing to 'pause' or be 'discreet' with what they're doing just for you)."wow. I can see why LL would want to mark that place off. |
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Bambi Newall
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03-28-2009 14:42
LL can't make you move. All they can do is let you in or kick you out. Did you not read their announcement of forcing people to move? We’ve carefully researched the anticipated impact the geographically separate Adult “mainland” will have, and our goal is to provide Adult goods or service providers the means to continue their activities without long-term disruption or loss of business. In the coming months, we will announce the plan to help the affected Residents and Merchants get set up on the new mainland. While this move will only be required of mainland Residents who wish to continue to provide Adult content or engage in Adult activity, estate owners with Adult content on their land will also be required to flag their estate appropriately. Estate owners or tenants will not be required to move to the new Adult mainland, though certain estate tenants wishing to reside on a parcel of a maturity setting appropriate to their desired activity may need to move to an appropriately flagged private estate. What is important for us to consider in this regard from a Resident perspective? Adult Oriented FAQ: https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=6032 |
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Kyle Steig
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03-28-2009 14:42
I mentioned no names. YOU did. I simply grew tired of being bombarded by "OMGZ LINDENZ R TEH EVIL NAZEEEZZZ" I see every time I log into SL. It got so bad that I'd close the window and it would pop right back up again. I have nothing against you or anyone else. I'm just tired of being spammed. So you have the opportunity to do what I think the whole point is. Opt-Out having previously opted-in. The issue isn't your right not to see what you don't want to but, instead whether it's appropriate to define whether it exists. You could just as easily have simply left and continued to hang out and enjoy our friendship (as you still can) or, if you wanted to be helpful to us, IM'd me, Cat, Crys or or Anna and told us why you were annoyed and given us a chance to address it. Unfortunately, you were so annoyed by something tangential to the issue you felt the need to try and undermine the effort by posting in a snit here not having done so. I wish you'd made another choice but it was your choice to make. In the continuing irony that seems to pervade this issue, that's what we're trying to do with the Lindens. Address a frustration rather than simply leave in silence. - Kyle |
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Ryanna Enfield
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03-28-2009 14:46
" anytime you go to sexland, you'll have to face nothing but flying cocks and boobs everywhere you walk, and nobody willing to 'pause' or be 'discreet' with what they're doing just for you)."wow. I can see why LL would want to mark that place off. A troll by any other name is still a Nan.. Troll. _____________________
~*Ryanna Enfield*~
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