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Jack - Why allow child avatars on Zindra?

Lias Leandros
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07-02-2009 17:17
From: Argent Stonecutter
Good god. So far the score card is:

Number of kid toons entering areas containing sexual content: zero.
Number of kid toons approaching avatars engaged in sexual behaviour: zero.

You want them to be more sensitive than that? You want fewer than zero incidents?
Can we lower the ferret incidents to zero?
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Lias Leandros
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07-02-2009 17:20
From: Argent Stonecutter
Number of gray areas actually exposed: zero.
The gray area is when a child avatar can walk into Zindra and enter a parcel with two penises on either side of the entranceway - and Zindra has just started filling up within the last two days.
From: someone
Number of inappropriate depictions caused by kid toons: zero.
See above
From: someone
Number of inappropriate depictions shown: maybe one, though if the image at http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wreu30siPoA/SSl6N6Z2pQI/AAAAAAAAAsI/SSg2t7JhuJU/s320/180px-2005_walking_penis.jpg is unphotoshopped, it's possible that I'm even mistaken about your boyfriend's stupid penis costume being inappropriate in the presence of kid toons.
He is an intellectual.
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07-02-2009 17:22
IMing people about forum conflicts only to send messages like "stop whining". Is harassment.

You really should not be proud of yourself but somewhat embarrassed that you actually bother people that don't want anything to do you with you.

It is a low thing to do and all you do is bother someone's SL, and if that is what you are here to do then i suppose it speaks volumes about the type of person you really are.

It reminds me of what my 8 & 9 year old do to one another.
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Lias Leandros
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07-02-2009 17:25
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
Black: Kid avatars can't be depicted as using, being available for use with, or in direct proximity with sexual devices.
White: Kid avatars are allowed on (Adult) land as long as they're not being depicted as using, being available for use with, or in direct proximity with sexual devices.
This covers sex. it does not cover the new ADULT THEMES LL speaks of when they mention Zindra.
From: someone
The gray area I'd like to kill is the (Mature) land concept of "Private content"... Or, further, while we're promised definitions about it in the FAQ, the FAQ itself contains a whole bunch of nothing on the subject. So, we have a much larger scale TOS/CS related problem where people may be unjustly ARed for having a little romp in their private homes. Thereby increasing the load on the Gteam with false ARs and resulting in a reduction of available governance support. (>_<;)

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-1203
Sounds like a Motel 6 business in Zindra would make good money.
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Lias Leandros
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07-02-2009 17:28
From: Briana Dawson
IMing people about forum conflicts only to send messages like "stop whining". Is harassment.

You really should not be proud of yourself but somewhat embarrassed that you actually bother people that don't want anything to do you with you.

It is a low thing to do and all you do is bother someone's SL, and if that is what you are here to do then i suppose it speaks volumes about the type of person you really are.

It reminds me of what my 8 & 9 year old do to one another.
Why do you mute someone in Second Life and then address them in the SL forums? You either want to have an exchange or you do not. The platform is not important. Millia and Argent and I still do not agree - but we had a rousing conversation in front of the penis parcel in Zindra. Grow up.
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07-02-2009 17:37
From: Lias Leandros
This covers sex. it does not cover the new ADULT THEMES LL speaks of when they mention Zindra.
Sounds like a Motel 6 business in Zindra would make good money.
It doesn't have to. There's nothing wrong with child avatars getting involved in adult themes. Don't you know about the kid RP sims? They include combat, you know? They have for years. You want that to stop now? (O.o) Why? (o.O)

Really, we're getting enough newly invented rules right now. Now you want to add to the pile? What's next? Clockwork Dolls? Virtual Transgenderism? Typed chat? (O.o)
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07-02-2009 17:39
From: Lias Leandros
Grow up.

So says the persron that cannot keep her disputes in the public forum where they start but instead harasses people in PM and inworld via IMs.


And you did not try to converse with me about anything. You sent me an IM that said "Stop whining"

And you sent me a PM that said "people in glass houses should not throw stones" - and what you referenced (that time i mentioned some possible copy bot items on SLX did not make sense).

If you sent me some real conversation - INVITING ME to a discussion with you, that would be different. But no, you sent me grief. So do not try and mask if as if you were attempting to converse with me as an adult would. You were not. You were simply harassing me.

So, take your own advice and grow up. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean you have to start harassing them in PM and IM to try and make them stop posting messages to you in a public forum.
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Lias Leandros
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07-02-2009 17:43
The grid is also a public forum Brianna. Don't get your nose chain all tangled up over it.
I PMd you about the lynch mob you tried to start over the creator because you were being hypocritical when referring to my concerns I posted here.

You muted me so drop it.
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07-02-2009 17:45
From: Lias Leandros
The grid is also a public forum Brianna. Don't get your nose chain all tangled up over it. You muted me so drop it.


Oh you mean "drop it" as in don't tell everyone about the childish IM and PM you sent me and then tried to come back here and act as if you were attempting to have an adult conversation with me you like you did with Argent and Milla?

From: Lias Leandros
Why do you mute someone in Second Life and then address them in the SL forums? You either want to have an exchange or you do not. The platform is not important. Millia and Argent and I still do not agree - but we had a rousing conversation in front of the penis parcel in Zindra. Grow up.


No. You were not trying to have a rousing conversation. You were harassing me.

If you do not like me addressing you in this forum. Do as i did to you in SL - use the tools to make it so you cannot read what i say.

Or better yet, next time don't chase someone down and try to intimidate them into being quiet.
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Lias Leandros
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07-02-2009 17:46
From: Briana Dawson
No.
OK, then don't drop it. Prattle on.
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07-02-2009 17:49
Yes, you like to have "intelligent discussions". Which is why you sent me this 4 days ago, right?

From: Lias L. PM to Briana

remember the thread you started when you posted the names of two products and asked the question was one guy stealing one of the products? then the creator had to come online an defend himself. So we can really post who tilts windmills if you like.

I shall spare the thread the squabbling because I see no reason to sink to your level just to get a pat on the head from people that agree with you.


What do you call "sinking to my level"?

I never harass people InWorld about things they post in the forum. You do.

Maybe you should kick that immature habit.
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23rdDjin Negulesco
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07-02-2009 17:51
From: Lias Leandros
The gray area is when a child avatar can walk into Zindra and enter a parcel with two penises on either side of the entranceway


then feel free to post about that

WHEN IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.

From: Lias Leandros
He is an intellectual.


intellectuals are usually referred to as "eggheads". people dressed as a penis are usually referred to as... hmmm... the name escapes me, but i know it's " 'something' heads".
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07-02-2009 17:56
From: Lias Leandros
Can we lower the ferret incidents to zero?
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07-02-2009 17:58
From: Lias Leandros
The gray area is when a child avatar can walk into Zindra and enter a parcel with two penises on either side of the entranceway - and Zindra has just started filling up within the last two days.
When it happens, AR it, see what Linden Labs says about it. In the meantime all you're doing is trashing your own credibility.
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07-02-2009 17:59
From: Argent Stonecutter


you are correct, sir. Zero is a perfectly good dog name...
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07-02-2009 17:59
From: Lias Leandros
This covers sex. it does not cover the new ADULT THEMES LL speaks of when they mention Zindra.
You mean violence? Are those violent penises? They seem to be allergic to ferrets.

But then, you seem to have a problem with ferrets, too. Are you from california?

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07-02-2009 18:01
I do not bother people inside our SL world. I live and let live. And when people dislike me from the forums, i do not chase them down and argue with them or ask them 'why did you make this post about me' or anything like that.

SL is my "space" and i do not need strife in it. And i, unlike some people, separate In World from Forum World. And i just ask that people respect that boundary and do not harass me in IMs with mocking or insults or anything from outside the actual world.

It is not cool to bother people's SL, to bring them down, to harass them, and generally bother.

The forums are a place where many of us who do not talk in world can interact, talk, laugh, etc..and in the end go our separate ways without feeling like any line has been crossed into our SL experience.

That is all i request.

Sending me IMs in world saying negative things to me, really upsets my day and I ask that you any anyone else please not do that.

Please.
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Lias Leandros
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07-02-2009 18:01
From: 23rdDjin Negulesco
then feel free to post about that WHEN IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
More blanket denial. Your all quite good at it.
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07-02-2009 18:02
From: Lias Leandros
More blanket denial. Your all quite good at it.


woman in the mirror...
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07-02-2009 18:03
From: Argent Stonecutter
When it happens, AR it, see what Linden Labs says about it. In the meantime all you're doing is trashing your own credibility.
Argent, I keep saying it is not an ARable offense under the current restrictions under the CS. This thread is about that. The OP asks why Linden Lab is allowing child avatars onto such parcels.
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07-02-2009 18:08
From: Argent Stonecutter
When it happens, AR it, see what Linden Labs says about it. In the meantime all you're doing is trashing your own credibility.


From: Lias Leandros
Argent, I keep saying it is not an ARable offense under the current restrictions under the CS. This thread is about that. The OP asks why Linden Lab is allowing child avatars onto such parcels.


gee whiz, Argent... how come you can say the same thing and not be here under my "blanket of denial"? it's cold and i'm so lonely... :rolleyes:
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07-02-2009 18:12
From: 23rdDjin Negulesco
woman in the mirror...
I do not deny anything 23. I see the unsavory situations that child avatars have been in since 2007 and I feel with birth of Adult Zindra Linden Lab needs to protect their new project and give it a chance to develop without it being painted by the same brush of scandal that child avatars have been painted with. Linden Lab can place a few more sanctions regarding adult content and child avatars without there being too much discomfort in the child avatar community. Caitlyn changed into an adult avatar when visiting the Penis parcel in Zindra. And that is appreciated. Such sensitivity should run through-out the entire child avatar and adult communities.
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07-02-2009 18:13
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gee whiz, Argent... how come you can say the same thing and not be here under my "blanket of denial"? it's cold and i'm so lonely... :rolleyes:
It's an electric blanket of denial.
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07-02-2009 18:20
From: Lias Leandros
Argent, I keep saying it is not an ARable offense under the current restrictions under the CS.
Do you have authoritative statements from G-Team to that effect? If not, you're simply speculating.
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gee whiz, Argent... how come you can say the same thing and not be here under my "blanket of denial"? it's cold and i'm so lonely... :rolleyes:
My blanket of puppy is much more comfy.
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