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07-02-2009 11:15
From: Angel Leviathan
I must have touched on a nerve for you to escalate this to Nazi's.
You're the only person who doesn't understand the reference.

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07-02-2009 11:18
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07-02-2009 11:25
From: Angel Leviathan
I must have touched on a nerve for you to escalate this to Nazi's. Maybe you need to look inside along with your cohorts and think about why it's so important to you that child avatars are sexualized.


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07-02-2009 12:01
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
Who said I went in a child avatar? (^_^)

So, now I can't go there regardless of the avatar I'm in? Is this sanctions against Imnotgoing Sideways from participating in sexual content? (O.o)
At least you did not blatantly lie and say you stopped to change from a child avatar prior to visiting the parcel in Mosh that has the two large penises outside it's entrance.
And, according to your interpretation of the Linden child avatar sanction, your not in violation for doing that. And, to me, that is completely innapropriate and should be ruled so by Linden Lab.
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07-02-2009 12:04
From: Lias Leandros
At least you did not blatantly lie and say you stopped to change from a child avatar prior to visiting the parcel in Mosh that has the two large penises outside it's entrance.
And, according to your interpretation of the Linden child avatar sanction, your not in violation for doing that. And, to me, that is completely innapropriate and should be ruled so by Linden Lab.
Who said I was a child avatar before I teleported? (^_^)

What? Do I have to say "FORE!" before every time I teleport? (O.o)
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07-02-2009 12:05
From: Lias Leandros
At least you did not blatantly lie


if you're going to accuse someone of lying, especially in print, you'd better have some sort of proof to back it up.
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From: 23rdDjin Negulesco
if you're going to accuse someone of lying, especially in print, you'd better have some sort of proof to back it up.
On my part, to be honest, I was in my short adult shape and relatively topless except for a few shoulder hanging belts to "PG-up" the outfit. It's something I picked up while going to the fashion fair. (^_^)y
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07-02-2009 12:29
and there is a difference between
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
short adult shape

and
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a child avatar
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From: 23rdDjin Negulesco
and there is a difference between

and
That, and, there's no way she could have seen it anyway since I didn't take a picture and she wasn't around. So, I wonder what her point of reference is? Planting alts in infohubs? =^-^=
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That, and, there's no way she could have seen it anyway since I didn't take a picture and she wasn't around. So, I wonder what her point of reference is? Planting alts in infohubs? =^-^=


maybe she was one of the giant penises...
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07-02-2009 12:42
From: Lias Leandros
At least you did not blatantly lie and say you stopped to change from a child avatar prior to visiting the parcel in Mosh that has the two large penises outside it's entrance.
And, according to your interpretation of the Linden child avatar sanction, your not in violation for doing that. And, to me, that is completely innapropriate and should be ruled so by Linden Lab.


It wouldn't matter if she was or wasn't in child form. The last time I checked... huge cartoonish penises are not sex. Everyone knows that. The rules against sexual age-play say you can't depict children in sexual acts. It doesn't say you can't walk past things that look like Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade balloons. Granted, the Macy's parade doesn't have penises in it... but... this is SL, and we are all adults. Including the people with kid toons.
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maybe she was one of the giant penises...

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07-02-2009 13:02
From: Argent Stonecutter
You're the only person who doesn't understand the reference


Sorry Argent I'm not up on every single reference that you make. I don't have time to keep up with your inane ramblings in support of perverting the image of children. Some of us have a job ya know? Perhaps instead of making thousands upon thousands of posts on the internet you should consider getting a life. Life is a beautiful thing.
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07-02-2009 13:18
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
On my part, to be honest, I was in my short adult shape and relatively topless except for a few shoulder hanging belts to "PG-up" the outfit. It's something I picked up while going to the fashion fair. (^_^)y
So were done with that debate. Imnotgoing went into a Adult Parcel in Zindra that had large penises on either side of the door while she was wearing her 'short adult' (child avatar) shape.
From: Eli Schlegal
It wouldn't matter if she was or wasn't in child form. The last time I checked... huge cartoonish penises are not sex. Everyone knows that. The rules against sexual age-play say you can't depict children in sexual acts. It doesn't say you can't walk past things that look like Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade balloons. Granted, the Macy's parade doesn't have penises in it... but... this is SL, and we are all adults. Including the people with kid toons.
And this is what the OP had questioned. Why are people depicting themselves as small children need to RP as these small children while entering Adult Content that is obviously adult content because of the large penises on each side of the door? The Linden sanctions on child avatars is due to unsavory depictions of children in SL. Those sanctions should not stop with just sex and child avatars. The rules should deter imnotgoing from legally entering that parcel in a child avatar in the first place.
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07-02-2009 13:21
From: Angel Leviathan
Sorry Argent I'm not up on every single reference that you make. I don't have time to keep up with your inane ramblings in support of perverting the image of children. Some of us have a job ya know? Perhaps instead of making thousands upon thousands of posts on the internet you should consider getting a life. Life is a beautiful thing.
I'm at work right now. (^_^)

Some of my co-workers are LULZ'ing at the craziness here. (^_^)y
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07-02-2009 13:29
From: Angel Leviathan
Sorry Argent I'm not up on every single reference that you make.
I apologize for being too subtle for you. Let me be straightforward and blunt and call a spade a goddamn shovel:

I find your attitude towards people who have expressed no intention of engaging in any illegal, immoral, or otherwise risky or unethical behavior completely incomprehensible. You have equated simply visiting a region... one that may contain no sexual content at all... with pedophilia. This only comparison that honestly comes to mind is the way the Nazis characterized perfectly innocent behavior by the Jews. If that bothers you, then you REALLY need to examine your own behaviur, because I simply can't help but seeing that kind of attitude reflected in what you post here.
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07-02-2009 13:32
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So were done with that debate. Imnotgoing went into a Adult Parcel in Zindra that had large penises on either side of the door while she was wearing her 'short adult' (child avatar) shape.
So now you're saying that when Immy was in an ADULT avatar, she was still in a child avatar because she has a similar one that's shorter and more childlike?

So now you're saying that people who play kid toons should stay out of Zindra even if they are willing to switch to an ADULT avatar first?

There are no words.
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07-02-2009 13:34
From: Lias Leandros
So were done with that debate. Imnotgoing went into a Adult Parcel in Zindra that had large penises on either side of the door while she was wearing her 'short adult' (child avatar) shape.
Oh wait? Short adults are children now? Yaikes, my mother is a child? *shocked* So if she were to join SL (as many her age have done), and she were to create an avatar that looked like her in her twenties, she would be a "child"? What is that, heightism?


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And this is what the OP had questioned. Why are people depicting themselves as small children need to RP as these small children while entering Adult Content that is obviously adult content because of the large penises on each side of the door? The Linden sanctions on child avatars is due to unsavory depictions of children in SL. Those sanctions should not stop with just sex and child avatars. The rules should deter imnotgoing from legally entering that parcel in a child avatar in the first place
As Immy clearly stated herself, she didn't.


You never commented on the attended/unattended children thing either as far as I can see.



Edited to add: The entrance with penises are in front of me right now, and I'd say the comparison to large balloons was a good one. Considering the build they are in front of is empty, they can be classified as a tacky art installation at best.
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07-02-2009 13:39
From: Argent Stonecutter
I apologize for being too subtle for you. Let me be straightforward and blunt and call a spade a goddamn shovel:

I find your attitude towards people who have expressed no intention of engaging in any illegal, immoral, or otherwise risky or unethical behavior completely incomprehensible. You have equated simply visiting a region... one that may contain no sexual content at all... with pedophilia.
While wearing a child avatar someone visiting a parcel in Zindra with two large penises right out in front of it is a inappropriate setting to depict a child avatar in. Linden Lab already decided that depicting child avatars in engaging in sex with an adult avatar is a inappropriate depiction. Linden Lab needs to expand their list of what is considered inappropriate depictions of child avatars in Second Life.

This is because, from what has been stated here - and where we have seen child avatar people go in Zindra - Many people wearing child avatars in Second Life are unable to decipher what is usually considered inappropriate activities or settings for these avatars.
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07-02-2009 13:47
From: Darion Rasmuson
Oh wait? Short adults are children now?
No, Short avatars are not adults now. Imnot was wearing her regular child avatar when she went to the Two penis parcel in Zindra. Let's not waste keystrokes playing with words. Imnot has stated several times that, under the current Linden Sanctions on child avatars, she is allowed to enter that parcel in a child avatar. If she really believes that she has no reason to pretend she was not wearing the child avatar when she entered the parcel. Immy said 'to be honest' and "were you in the infohub with an alt when I entered?" There is no need to start pretending it did not happen - Let us discuss how such activities, legal under the current TOS might effect Adult Zndra and the adult content residents there.
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You never commented on the attended/unattended children thing either as far as I can see.
SO a adult avatar RPs as a parent taking their child into the lobby of a brothel. I am not sure what your point is? It is still a unsavory depiction of child avatars.
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Edited to add: The entrance with penises are in front of me right now, and I'd say the comparison to large balloons was a good one. Considering the build they are in front of is empty, they can be classified as a tacky art installation at best.
Sir, those are large penises on a adult parcel in the continent of Zindra. They are not balloons and I do not suggest you try to blow them up.
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07-02-2009 13:49
From: Lias Leandros
While wearing a child avatar someone visiting a parcel in Zindra with two large penises right out in front of it is a inappropriate setting to depict a child avatar in.
Something else that didn't happen. Immy stated she was wearing an ADULT shape when she visited it.
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This is because, from what has been stated here - and where we have seen child avatar people go in Zindra - Many people wearing child avatars in Second Life are unable to decipher what is usually considered inappropriate activities or settings for these avatars.
You have yet to provide evidence of a single incident in Zindra that did not involve someone like your friend deliberately putting on an inappropriate costume, in a parcel that was posted PG, just long enough for a photo op.

If the kid toon players were a tenth as inconsiderate as you are trying to depict them you wouldn't have to set up fake photo-ops. Your claims are, simply, busted.
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