Jack - Why allow child avatars on Zindra?
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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07-02-2009 13:51
From: Lias Leandros While wearing a child avatar someone visiting a parcel in Zindra with two large penises right out in front of it is a inappropriate setting to depict a child avatar in. Linden Lab already decided that depicting child avatars in engaging in sex with an adult avatar is a inappropriate depiction. Linden Lab needs to expand their list of what is considered inappropriate depictions of child avatars in Second Life.
This is because, from what has been stated here - and where we have seen child avatar people go in Zindra - Many people wearing child avatars in Second Life are unable to decipher what is usually considered inappropriate activities or settings for these avatars. I would argue that it's an even smaller proportion of the adult avatars that are confused over what's appropriate or not. Almost minuscule, even. (^_^)
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Argent Stonecutter
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07-02-2009 13:51
From: Lias Leandros No, Short avatars are not adults now. Bullshit. You're making stuff up again. My usual avatar is shorter than any of Immy's, and its DEFINITELY adult. 
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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07-02-2009 13:52
From: Lias Leandros ...Imnot was wearing her regular child avatar when she went to the Two penis parcel in Zindra... This is a lie. Please provide proof. Start by describing the shirt I was wearing. (^_^)y
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Darion Rasmuson
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07-02-2009 13:59
From: Lias Leandros No Short avatars are not adults now. Imnot was wearing her regular child avatar when she went to teh Two penis parcel in Zindra. Immy has clearly stated she was in her short adult form. She wore the avatar, I'm sure she knew which one she was wearing. From: someone Imnot has stated several times that, under the current Linden Sanctions on child avatars, she is allowed to enter that parcel in a child avatar. She is. From: someone Yet, she says she was in adult form at the time. Yes? Where is the conflict here? From: someone If she really believes that she has no reason to pretend she was not wearing the child avatar when she entered the parcel. Pretend? In other words you are calling her a liar? Well then I need to ask: WERE you present when she entered, and do you have any proof of whether her avatar at the time was a short adult or a child? Just curious here. From: someone Immy said 'to be honest' and were you in the infohub with an alt when I entered?' There is no need to start pretending it did not happen Again, you seem to imply she is lying, I'm assuming you will back that up with fact. From: someone Let us discuss how such activities, legal under the current TOS might effect Adult Zndra and the adult content residents there. I fail to see how entereing a practically empty build with two poorly make penis-like sculptures by the entrance effects much of anything. From: someone SO a adult avatar RPs as a parent taking their child into the lobby of a brothel. I am not sure what your point is? It is still a unsavory depiction of child avatars.
My point? You kept saying "unattended children on Zindra". I was merely wondering what difference it would make to you whether they were attended or unattended. From: someone Sir, those are large penises on a adult parcel in the continent of Zindra. They are not balloons and I do not suggest you try to blow them up.
A joke! I even lol-ed! 
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Lias Leandros
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07-02-2009 14:03
From: Argent Stonecutter Something else that didn't happen. Immy stated she was wearing an ADULT shape when she visited it. No Argent, that is a lie. She said she was wearing her smallest Adult avatar -which is Immy's regular child avatar she usually wears. And why would any of you waste keystrokes trying to pretend that Immy was not depicting herself as a child when she entered an Adult Parcel in Zindra that had no Adult content in it (just two large penises at the entrance)? Immy has stated in these forums that she interprets the Linden Sanction on child avatars to say she IS allowed to do what she just did while wearing a child avatar. From: someone You have yet to provide evidence of a single incident in Zindra that did not involve someone like your friend deliberately putting on an inappropriate costume, in a parcel that was posted PG, just long enough for a photo op. This morning I posted the coordinates to two large penis in Zindra. Immy then teleported to that location as a child avatar and commented on it in these forums. This seems to fall into a the inappropriate category.
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Lias Leandros
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07-02-2009 14:13
From: Darion Rasmuson Pretend? In other words you are calling her a liar? Immy never lied and said she was not in her regular child avatar form when she netered. This point does not have to be debated here ad naseum. From: someone I fail to see how entering a practically empty build with two poorly make penis-like sculptures by the entrance effects much of anything. Well that is the cusp of the debate. If it is in Zindra and is clearly marked adult content (or has two large penis at its entrance) I do not feel anyone should rp as a child avatar entering such parcels. it is an inappropriate depiction of children in Second Life. Just as the depiction of children having sex with adults is inappropriate. Linden Lab has banned that depiction. LL needs to expand upon the child avatar sanctions even further.
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23rdDjin Negulesco
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07-02-2009 14:15
From: Lias Leandros She said she was wearing her smallest Adult avatar
no, she didn't. read what people say and stop trying to change it hoping that others won't look back or call you on it. From: Lias Leandros She said she was wearing her smallest Adult avatar
oh. oops. didn't realize the two of you were friends with such a long history that you know exactly what she does at any given time.
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Argent Stonecutter
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07-02-2009 14:15
From: Lias Leandros No Argent, that is a lie. She said she was wearing her smallest Adult avatar -which is Immy's regular child avatar she usually wears. If she refers to it as a short adult, then why are you referring to it as a child? Is my short adult avatar (above) a child?
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Lias Leandros
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07-02-2009 14:21
People, stop. She went there while I was still logged in there. I took pictures of the area but there is no reason to post them here. If I did post them here I am sure you would be yelling entrapment. Immy is not denying she had her regular avatar on when she entered that place. That is NOT the issue. Immy, and several of you, believe that child avatars are allowed to do just what she did today. So we go back to the Ops query to Linden Lab; why are such inappropriate depictions allowed in Zindra? Linden Lab needs to realize their child avatar sanctions do not go far enough to deter this sort of thing.
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23rdDjin Negulesco
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07-02-2009 14:24
From: Lias Leandros Immy never lied and said she was not in her regular child avatar form when she netered. then you really do need to read more carefully, not just what she said but what you have as well. From: Lias Leandros This point does not have to be debated here ad naseum. it's not under debate. what is under debate ad naseum is if you have the ability to separate facts from your opinion without perverting the words of others.
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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07-02-2009 14:24
From: Lias Leandros No Argent, that is a lie. She said she was wearing her smallest Adult avatar -which is Immy's regular child avatar she usually wears. No it's not. You're the one that's lying. (^_^) From: someone And why would any of you waste keystrokes trying to pretend that Immy was not depicting herself as a child when she entered an Adult Parcel in Zindra that had no Adult content in it (just two large penises at the entrance)? Immy has stated in these forums that she interprets the Linden Sanction on child avatars to say she IS allowed to do what she just did while wearing a child avatar. This morning I posted the coordinates to two large penis in Zindra. Immy then teleported to that location as a child avatar and commented on it in these forums. This seems to fall into a the inappropriate category. I was in my short adult avatar. Not my child avatar. Not my loli-imp avatar. Not my vampire avatar. Not my cyborg avatar. Not my police avatar. Not my UR avatar. (=_=) Really. I won't be the one to report this thread. But, please reconsider slandering me or risk a lock on this discussion because I'm sure someone can see through your lies. (=_=)
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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07-02-2009 14:25
From: Lias Leandros People, stop. She went there while I was still logged in there. I took pictures of the area but there is no reason to post them here. If I did post them here I am sure you would be yelling entrapment. Immy is not denying she had her regular avatar on when she entered that place. That is NOT the issue. Immy, and several of you, believe that child avatars are allowed to do just what she did today. So we go back to the Ops query to Linden Lab; why are such inappropriate depictions allowed in Zindra? Linden Lab needs to realize their child avatar sanctions do not go far enough to deter this sort of thing. You didn't show up on my 96 Meter Mystitool scanner. (^_^)y
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Lias Leandros
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07-02-2009 14:27
From: Imnotgoing Sideways Really. I won't be the one to report this thread. But, please reconsider slandering me or risk a lock on this discussion because I'm sure someone can see through your lies. (=_=) Immy, if you feel you were in the right to enter that parcel as a ten year old child - then why the denials that you were there in that avatar? A forum lock is not the end of the issue, Immy. Your actions will assure that.
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Argent Stonecutter
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07-02-2009 14:28
From: Lias Leandros So we go back to the Ops query to Linden Lab; why are such inappropriate depictions allowed in Zindra? Inappropriate depictions of children in proximity to sexual content or activities are not allowed in Zindra because they are not allowed anywhere on the grid. What you and the OP are demanding is that completely innocent, appropriate, and harmless depictions ALSO be outlawed simply because you think the region rating is somehow magic, making the exact same pattern of pixels inappropriate just because the word "Adult" shows at the top of the page.
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Darion Rasmuson
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07-02-2009 14:32
From: Lias Leandros Immy never lied and said she was not in her regular child avatar form when she netered. This point does not have to be debated here ad naseum. Well that is the cusp of the debate. If it is in Zindra and is clearly marked adult content (or has two large penis at its entrance) I do not feel anyone should rp as a child avatar entering such parcels. it is an inappropriate depiction of children in Second Life. Just as the depiction of children having sex with adults is inappropriate. Linden Lab has banned that depiction. LL needs to expand upon the child avatar sanctions even further. I find it more offensive that you compare the concept of a child walking past penis sculptures to a child having sex with an adult.
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Lias Leandros
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07-02-2009 14:32
From: Argent Stonecutter completely innocent, appropriate, and harmless depictions This is where everyone's personal sensitivities come into play. You consider a small child entering a build that has two large penises on either side of the door as "completely innocent, appropriate, and harmless depictions". I see it as extremely inappropriate.
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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07-02-2009 14:34
From: Lias Leandros Immy, if you feel you were in the right to enter that parcel as a ten year old child - then why the denials that you were there in that avatar? A forum lock is not the end of the issue, Immy. Your actions will assure that. My avatar just had her 18th birthday... Everyday. Check my profile picks.. Item two... It's all there. (^_^) And, yes, I was in between the "penises"... Hardly... They were wonky, poorly made sculpts. Even a freenis would put them to shame. (^_^) I had a fine chat with an escort that was right around my height while I was there. Apparently, she reads the forum as well. "Hi! How ya' doing!?!?!" (^_^)y
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23rdDjin Negulesco
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07-02-2009 14:34
From: Lias Leandros She went there while I was still logged in there. I took pictures of the area but there is no reason to post them here. if there was any truth to this, you would have been in the forums, on every blog you could reach, typing at the top of your lungs "SEE! I WAS RIGHT!". you've already admitted to as much over the past few weeks. it's easy to claim all matters of evidence as long as you never have to produce any.
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Lias Leandros
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07-02-2009 14:35
From: Imnotgoing Sideways My avatar just had her 18th birthday (^_^) I'm glad you decided to grow up.
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Argent Stonecutter
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07-02-2009 14:37
From: Lias Leandros This is where everyone's personal sensitivities come into play. You consider a small child entering a build that has two large penises on either side of the door as "completely innocent, appropriate, and harmless depictions". We only have your word... and your word has proven itself unreliable at best in this thread... that the avatar Immy claims was adult wasn't. Would you consider it inappropriate for me to do so in my "small adult" avatar? I'm even shorter than Immy. 
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Lias Leandros
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07-02-2009 14:39
From: 23rdDjin Negulesco if there was any truth to this, you would have been in the forums, on every blog you could reach, typing at the top of your lungs "SEE! I WAS RIGHT!". you've already admitted to as much over the past few weeks. it's easy to claim all matters of evidence as long as you never have to produce any. 23, I am right - but according to the rules - there was no sex balls or sexual activity on the parcel so Immy was in her right to enter the parcel in a child avatar. I am speaking on the current rules - not Immy's actions. The Linden rules about child avatar depictions should be expanded to make what Immy did an ARable offense.
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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07-02-2009 14:43
From: Lias Leandros I'm glad you decided to grow up. I grow up and down depending on how I feel. But, I rarely assert an age. I made my short adult shape for some "barely legal" RP. One of the aspects of being barely legal and catering to that kink is to be just coming out from your 18th birthday. So, it's one of the rare occasions that you'll see me use an actual number. (^_^) Regardless. I was still not in my kid avatar. The face is close, because I made both shapes. But, upon sizing up, I get a whole bunch more curvy and a obviously a bit taller. (^_^) You still never addressed the shirt I asked about. =^-^=
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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07-02-2009 14:46
From: Lias Leandros 23, I am right - but according to the rules - there was no sex balls or sexual activity on the parcel so Immy was in her right to enter the parcel in a child avatar. I am speaking on the current rules - not Immy's actions. The Linden rules about child avatar depictions should be expanded to make what Immy did an ARable offense. Showing up in a parcel with ugly sculpties that might roughly resemble penises as a doorway decoration in a short adult avatar should be an ARable offense? (O.o) Actually... There may be a chance to AR that map on the floor. It surely was pulled from the LL website and I don't know what copyright was held on it. Who knows? (^_^)y
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Argent Stonecutter
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07-02-2009 14:47
From: Lias Leandros The Linden rules about child avatar depictions should be expanded to make what Immy did an ARable offense. Adult avatars are now to be banned from Zindra if they're "too short"? How about my ferrety self? Do I need to be protected from prim cocks? 
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Lias Leandros
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07-02-2009 14:49
From: Imnotgoing Sideways I made my short adult shape for some "barely legal" RP. One of the aspects of being barely legal and catering to that kink is to be just coming out from your 18th birthday. So, it's one of the rare occasions that you'll see me use an actual number. (^_^) Wow, OK. From: someone You still never addressed the shirt I asked about. =^-^= Ask again. I could not find where you asked about a shirt.
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