Jack - Why allow child avatars on Zindra?

In this instance it is a rhetorical question. The blog just says look at our child avatar sanctions we put in place in 2008 in response to the pedo scandal. I see glaring gaps in that - since it was written before Adult Continent Zindra was written.
I have somewhat grown to accept that nonsense of mixing PG parcels in Adult rated Zindra. And peopel in child avatars adult verifying to go 'shopping in Zindra' (like buying hustler for the articles)
But I have been at the penis parcel. And that is not safe in terms of content. And yet child avatars feel they have every right to enter.

I don't see any bloggers other than Prok involved. Just you and Prok and your fraud and lies and threats.

Well, I don't speak Ferret.
The guy who was under the impression that he could have sex anywhere in Zindra was responding to the advertising campaign LL released about Zindra. The same campaign that will influence the opinion of Zindra outside of SL/ This will not end well.
Hey! My 'Erotic Restaurant' is in Nepessing, not Bear. And I have my Zindra ticket in for the move. No child avatars or vermin allowed!

No gaps. In brief. You can play a kid. You can have sex. You can't do both. Pretty basic. (^_^)If a parcel contains sexual content. There is no good reason for a child avatar to be there. Nudity isn't sex. And anatomical depictions in architecture aren't sex. (^_^)y

No problem... Your parcel, your rules. (^_^)

I'd probably enjoy the beach more anyway. (^_^)y

So once again Lias ignores my questions..even after IM'ing me in world telling me to shut up... I think she just has a thing for Immy..

I can't help it if I'm cuuuuuuute! =^-^=

Koko I thought I responded. Brianna distracted me. Post again please.

I hear there's some great parcels around the Zindra infohubs

You don't speak English either.

If the landowner allows it, yes, you can, just as you could previously on mature land. Which is why we're in this mess... because of idiots going ballistic (like you're doing now) about what YOU were doing (whichever sim it's in) not because of people who play with kid toons.

I am going to guess that LL will enforce no public sex, like has always been the rule on the rest of the mainland, for at least their own parcels (like protected land, the roads, and the mole builds) though.

Yes, that's clarified in the blog. "There is plenty of protected land on Zindra that will technically be adult but safe in terms of content." (^_^)y

Here are the messages.. will you reply, or ignore and IM me in world again?

my computer must be broken. it allows me to look at previous pages and posts. guess i'd best fix that somehow. anyone know how?

Change your firstname to Lias
That should do it

Well we did go over this already. I saw her and I say she went as her child avatar. She claims it was a short adult. So be it. But again, she has claimed in many forums that she has every right to enter a place as a child that has no adult content inside (even though it has two large penis sculptures at the entrance. Because LL does not sanction child avatar people for doing so. So if she was not wrong, why are you desperately trying to say she was not in a child avatar when she entered? Your entire argument is based on LL's current Child Avatar sanctions. My concerns are based on common decency and social norms. And, as can be seen in these pages, my concerns have no impact on the actions of people that insist upon wearing child avatars.
Koko, just because you found someone else who has the same lackof decency as yourself - it does not make it mainstream.
Someone else answered this one for you.

No, your entire platform is based in what you think common decency and social norms SHOULD BE - that is my problem. Rather than accepting that not everyone sees the same way as you, you want everyone to only see it the way you do.



So, the entire city of San Francisco and their government is wrong, and you are right? This is what I am saying - you refuse to even accept the possibility that that anyone else's viewpoint might be right, and yours is wrong. At least I know that my perception is mine alone, and it might not be the right one, but you won't even accept the possiblity that is the case. That is why so many argue here - because when few dictate to everyone what is right/wrong, then we lose all freedoms.



You brought it up, I want YOUR answer.

Not should be, What is actually the norms right now. You and your ilk may be more progressive than the social norms - but that does not make those embracing the social norms needs to accept your (inappropriate) depictions of children.
Koko, if your relying on politicians to tell you the difference between right and wrong then I'll introduce you to several Rep. Kirk speeches.

Your opinion cannot force Linden Lab to develop more sanctions against everyone. The people that believe in the societal norms and common decency obviously can force Ll to create policy (as seen in 2007 after the Pedo Wonderland scandal). We all know that children are a easy target for the soap-boxers to use t force change on a situation. Knowing this, I feel completely ignoring these peopel and carrying on as usual is foolhearty. Make an effort to organize the child avatar community and show some sensitivity toward the Zindra and adult content issue. To do as you all did in SL5B (protest, nasty postings, boycotting and insulting) is not the answer this time. You all come across as a bunch of short griefing bullies. No one from the child avatar community has released a statement showing concern about the plight of the Adult Content community or has made a sensitive statement about entering parcels marked Adult in Zindra.
Ditto. When you accept that this is happening then you all can begin to work to adjust your behavior so as not to offend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxblmM65vWg (^_^)

PG is the worst offense to ever occur on the grid. (=_=)

No, I do not trust politicians to tell me what is right from work, I trust my soul to know that there is not one path, nor that I know the best for anyone but myself. It is when one decides that they know best for everyone else I believe that they no longer know what is best at all.

There is no "my ilk", there is only my perceptions, and my willingness to understand that my perceptions is NOT everyone one elses, but rather, I must be willing to give everyone the chance to find their own path.



You seem to want to lump me in with the child community. I am not a child, nor do I role play a child, but I am willing to accept that I do not know all, and I am in no position to dictate what everyone else does. That is what I am getting at. In order for freedom to work, one must accept that everyone has to be free to find their own path, else there is no freedom at all.



No... in order not to offend, I would have to lose myself.. and I am not willing to do so. I was given free will for the purpose to grow, experience life, and learn how to better myself. I will not throw away the deities gift just not to "offend". That would be cheapening what the deity has given me. I will gladly go before the deity when this cycle ends, and have no reservations at all in stating that I am not perfect, but I did my best to grow, learn, and become all that she wishes me to be.

And I did it without having to make anyone else be lessor than they could be. Nor did I force my will apon them in any fashion, rather, I took all burden apon myself, all "public" criticism so that they would not feel the need to change their path just to make mine easier.

Can you honestly say the same? Are you willing to accept that your perceptions are not perfect, and that perhaps you do not see something that someone else sees?

Lias... If we need to get rid of everything that offends, can we start with your giant lumpy legs? (^_^)

The term in question is not "is this mainstream", it's "is this legal in RL". The answer is "yes".

That is good advice. You need to take it.
Which is why there are so many people apposing your crackpot ideas.

The only "griefing bullies" here are you and your boyfriend in his cock suit.

It is not what is best for everyone else, it is what is best for the platform. Certain actions will help to ensure that Second Life sees another birthday without many more child sex scandals or forced sanctions.
The size of the TOS should be a hint to you that there is no freedom once you agree to it. I am saying we need more guidelines to make sure that people who feel their freedom is more important than the plkatform are fully aware that this is not the acceptable.
You already did when you agreed to the TOS.
Most adults know that they cannot do what they want to do. And you certainly cannot do so on a platform with internal rules and external pressures. Child avatars have had their share of controversy within Second Life. If they continue to inflexible they may break.
I am completely against child avatars entering any Adult parcel in Zindra or on a private estate. I can see many of you see no problem role playing with child avatars in adult settings. And it is a slippery slope. One that leads to depictions that are (as Linden Lab put it) Broadly Offensive.