Jack - Why allow child avatars on Zindra?
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Briana Dawson
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07-04-2009 14:09
From: Lias Leandros The link to the article was to show Argent the people that are also concerned about how Child avatars portray themselves in Second Life. The Mari/Prok squabble is not the focus. Prok muted me years ago - big deal.
I just do not want you to think that 6 million SL users agree that child avatars should be able to enter Adult Parcels in Zindra. Of course you know that this i snot true. Child Avatars like to function in the gray area of the rules and common decency. If a parcel is marked adult, and that child avatar person FEELS that the content on that parcel is not considered sexual(which Adult is more than just sexual acts) - they will just enter. So you can convince yourself of anything and just go where you please. Well Lias. To be truthful, i think you have expressed yourself and your view point quite well in this thread. I also think you have made some very real points that should be addressed. I personally am grossed out by seeing child avatars around sexually explicit things. But hey, my kinks gross some people out FOR SURE, but we are all adults. So i live and let live. You do not have to do as i do. I respect that. |
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Lias Leandros
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07-04-2009 14:15
From: Briana Dawson Wow. Lias the Liar. Brianna you just confirmed everything I wrote. Funny girl From: someone I made a mistake with Eku and the sculpted shoes. If i had seen that the creator was Eku Zhong i would have never posted the thread, but i acted prematurely without doing the proper research. Eku did come forward and set the record the straight. From: someone It was not slander - it was not intentionally done to harm Eku Zhong, it was an honest mistake. Quite different from the intentional ignorance and selective arguing you do and the hatchet job your pal Prok does on people. Only you say it was a mistake. From: someone You and Prok however....well, lets just say i would expect the polar caps to melt first before either of you ever smelled the poop on your knee's and actually admitted being wrong about something - like you are about this issue. You only admitted you were wrong because you were proven to be wrong. Child avatars in SL have had a tumultuous existence. 2007 Pedo scandal, 2008 SL birthday Drama and now in 2009 the Zindra thing. Three strikes and your outed. Stop being an apologist for this sort or reckless role play. Child Avatars need to respect everyone's limits. Not just their own (selfish). Or Linden Lab will be forced, once again, to impose even more sanctions on an AVATAR TYPE. How sad.
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Milla Janick
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07-04-2009 14:20
From: Lias Leandros Your next on my list Milla!  |
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Lias Leandros
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07-04-2009 14:24
Milla has gone vigilante on us!
This is the infamous Penis Parcel in Mosh connected to the Linden Train station there. Does not exactly make the public Linden land there PG safe. This entranceway could not exist on the new or old mainland. But it is alive and well in Zindra. Child Avatars have NO NEED to venture in Adult Zindra for any reason because of the extended limitations of adult content allowed there.
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Milla Janick
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07-04-2009 14:30
I've had worse than that on my mainland parcel before. Like the ten meter wang I rezzed to see what it would look like on the map.
I don't belive the sloppy floppy dongs make it inappropriate for child avatars. The pornographic photos inside do though.
It may turn out that nothing outside the two infohubs is approriate for child avatars to be in proximity to. I'm cool with that. I'm just saying let's see how it develops.
And at the risk of cutting & pasting, I don't believe you'll see a lot of child avatars there anyway, so the point is probably moot.
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Briana Dawson
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07-04-2009 14:30
From: Lias Leandros Brianna you just confirmed everything I wrote. Funny girl
Stop being an apologist for this sort or reckless role play. Child Avatars need to respect everyone's limits.. Sigh. The first thing confirmed here is that you do not read before posting. The second thing confirmed here is that you do not take people at face value based on what they say, even when they apologize or admit they were wrong. You choose to believe that there was something more devious happening when that persons character has never showed anything remotely devious in the forum. Even when people say they agree with you and can respect your point of view, you still poop in your hand and sling it at them. Have fun crusading. |
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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07-04-2009 14:31
From: Lias Leandros Please see the comments on this blog post to see not only myself, Prok and the cock are concerned about this issue. http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/second_thoughts/2009/06/marianne-mckays-machinations.htmlYou say this. But when I say a child avatar went into the penis parcel you say that the presence of a penis is not considered sexual content to you. And this is where you and the social norms part ways. Linden Lab needs to expand the definition of the child avatar sanctions because none of you have been able to figure out what is offensive and what is acceptable. I need to ask... Who was this kid avatar that showed up? (=_=) |
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Lias Leandros
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07-04-2009 14:35
From: Briana Dawson Sigh.
The first thing confirmed here is that you do not read before posting. No, we posted at the same time and I did not see your post until mine was posted. From: someone The second thing confirmed here is that you do not take people at face value based on what they say, even when they apologize or admit they were wrong. You choose to believe that there was something more devious happening when that persons character has never showed anything remotely devious in the forum. But you just did the same thing to meh! From: Briana Dawson Quite different from the intentional ignorance and selective arguing you do and the hatchet job your pal Prok does on people. See? From: someone Even when people say they agree with you and can respect your point of view, you still poop in your hand and sling it at them.
Have fun crusading. Well, your waffling is dizzying. Have a good weekend.
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Briana Dawson
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07-04-2009 14:36
From: Imnotgoing Sideways I need to ask... Who was this kid avatar that showed up? (=_=) probably someone that registered < 5'6" on the height scale.  |
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Briana Dawson
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07-04-2009 14:37
From: Lias Leandros
Well, your waffling is dizzying. Have a good weekend.
But are they Belgian waffles? THAT, is the question! Well i do not know how the weekend will be. It has been raining all day so there may be no fireworks in the town nearest me.  You have a good weekend too. Keep it up and i may to unmute you...  |
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Lias Leandros
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07-04-2009 14:38
From: Imnotgoing Sideways I need to ask... Who was this kid avatar that showed up? (=_=) The same one that said this: From: Imnotgoing Sideways "My kink is fine, but, yours crosses the line!" ... comes to mind. (^_^)y
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07-04-2009 14:44
From: Milla Janick I don't belive the sloppy floppy dongs make it inappropriate for child avatars. Again, You all are immune to social norms. No one is taking a small child into a facility that has two large penis outside it - I do not care if Chucky Cheese is inside of it. So your definition of common decency and broadly offensive differs from mine and some other people (people inside and outside of SL). Ignoring those differences and soldiering on with no regard will not end well for child avatars. It is a shame that Mari can only use the child avatar influence of her blog to Martyr herself and not open a discussion to help resolve these issues.
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07-04-2009 14:45
From: Lias Leandros The same one that said this: Who said ~I~ was a child avatar when I showed up? (=_=) |
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Briana Dawson
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07-04-2009 14:49
From: Imnotgoing Sideways Who said ~I~ was a child avatar when I showed up? (=_=) GODDANGIT IMMY! Are you not reading! Obviously your SIZE SCREAMS "thumb sucking, booger picking, crumb muncher"! Grow a few inches and then come back to Zindra, you bad bad girl! |
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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07-04-2009 14:50
From: Briana Dawson GODDANGIT IMMY! Are you not reading!
Obviously your SIZE SCREAMS "thumb sucking, booger picking, crumb muncher"!
Grow a few inches and then come back to Zindra, you bad bad girl! Oh, spank me! (=_=) Really... I'll let you borrow my paddle. =^-^= |
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Briana Dawson
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07-04-2009 14:55
From: Imnotgoing Sideways Oh, spank me! (=_=)
Really... I'll let you borrow my paddle. =^-^= mmmm...Do you use RLV? In the rare moments i am in such moods, i usually do my evil things to little Mrs Serene Magic-Cortes...oh what fun that is with RLV.  |
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Caitlyn Clawtooth
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07-04-2009 15:01
From: Lias Leandros The Catholic Nun Avatar is adult and verified and can go where she pleases. BUT it is purposely offensive to put such an avatar in these settings. If a group of Catholic Nun Avatar did these things in SL (without apology) I do believe many of our SL and RL Catholic groups would complain. I am sure *everything* is offensive to *someone* out there. Maybe we should just ban everyone from the planet so nobody can get offended? |
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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07-04-2009 15:01
From: Briana Dawson mmmm...Do you use RLV? In the rare moments i am in such moods, i usually do my evil things to little Mrs Serene Magic-Cortes...oh what fun that is with RLV. Cool Viewer 1.22.11 (0) May 24 2009 19:42:32 (Cool SL Viewer) RestrainedLife viewer v1.17 (CV 1.22.11.0) =^-^= And, I miss Serene and Vael... They never come around the sandbox anymore. THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!!!! (>_<  |
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Caitlyn Clawtooth
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07-04-2009 15:02
From: Imnotgoing Sideways /me shops for a latex nun's habit. =^-^= /me thinks Lias just inspired an industry LOL |
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Lias Leandros
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07-04-2009 15:03
From: Imnotgoing Sideways Who said ~I~ was a child avatar when I showed up? (=_=) I say it. Even though you say I did not show up on your radar - I posted where this place was and you popped over quickly and then posted about it. I have more than one account Imy. Lias is an alt. I logged on quickly in whatever account I had last logged into to just see what the new viewer showed in ABOUT LAND because Caitlyn was asking about it. There were two other people standing on the Train station land at that time also. From: Imnotgoing Sideways It's not attached. It's adjacent. And, yes, it would be greatly preferable for kid avatars to stay outside of eye-shot visual proximity from any sex activities or poseballs that exist inside that private parcel. My guess is that they'd get ARed and banned for stepping inside. (^_^)
Boy... And a "classy" establishment, that. (=_=) Freebie textures and megaprims abound. (=_=)y I am not sure why you are battling this point. It is fruitless. You have said that you feel that anyone in any avatar can enter a parcel if there are no sexballs in there. From: Imnotgoing Sideways I grow up and down depending on how I feel. But, I rarely assert an age. I made my short adult shape for some "barely legal" RP. One of the aspects of being barely legal and catering to that kink is to be just coming out from your 18th birthday. So, it's one of the rare occasions that you'll see me use an actual number. (^_^)
Regardless. I was still not in my kid avatar. The face is close, because I made both shapes. But, upon sizing up, I get a whole bunch more curvy and a obviously a bit taller. (^_^)=^-^= For you to even discuss Kinks with your child avatar image there is inappropriate.
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Briana Dawson
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07-04-2009 15:06
From: Imnotgoing Sideways And, I miss Serene and Vael... They never come around the sandbox anymore. THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!!!! (>_< Yes it is.  |
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Caitlyn Clawtooth
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07-04-2009 15:20
From: Imnotgoing Sideways I need to ask... Who was this kid avatar that showed up? (=_=) Actually I counted at least 3 of us and various short adults. Oh the horror, there were *gasp* Lindens there! [random observation: I wonder if the people complaining were the ones that could not get into the sim?] |
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Argent Stonecutter
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07-04-2009 15:31
From: Lias Leandros You say this. But when I say a child avatar went into the penis parcel you say that the presence of a penis is not considered sexual content to you. Bullshit. Bullshit bullshit bullshit. Have you already forgotten our argument of ONLY A BLOODY DAY AGO over the FACT that Immy was NOT in her kid avatar? |
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Briana Dawson
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07-04-2009 15:32
From: Argent Stonecutter Bullshit. Bullshit bullshit bullshit. Have you already forgotten our argument of ONLY A BLOODY DAY AGO over the FACT that Immy was NOT in her kid avatar? Wow if you said bullshit 5 times, then the "CandyBull" would have appeared and murdered you in your home as you sat at the Mac. Close call there Argent. |
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Milla Janick
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07-04-2009 15:32
From: Lias Leandros Again, You all are immune to social norms. No one is taking a small child into a facility that has two large penis outside it - I do not care if Chucky Cheese is inside of it.  Maybe a little bit. I'm not looking for things to offend me. If you had waited a day until Remmie furnished the building a little more, you'd have a much stronger point. Your position really isn't that far away from mine. Penis scultures aside, neither one of us believes child avatars should be in proximity to sexually explicity content. I just don't feel the ban should extend to parcels that do not contain such content. |
