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Love Hastings
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04-27-2009 08:50
From: Talon Brown
Oh wow I'm being tag teamed by you and your little lapdog. I must have really struck a nerve there. [bunch of other stuff]


You do remind me of someone on SLU. Huh.
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04-27-2009 08:52
interesting that the tatamae was mentioned earlier in the thread hey.
i suppose the only safe comment to make to op is ' just get over it'.
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04-27-2009 08:53
From: Talon Brown
Oh wow I'm being tag teamed by you and your little lapdog. I must have really struck a nerve there. As for my addressing the actual topic on this thread, thanks for proving my point that you have been skipping through it. Had you actually read the entire thing you'd see quite a few posts in here by me addressing the actual topic. Which is more that can be said for you and Bri trying to derail it /now/ with this foolishness. Ah well, good luck with that since I'm not going to allow you to drag me into yet another of your little dramas.


LOL. You are the one that is venomous. You show it over and over again in your short posting history. Now you are calling me a 'lapdog', making it personal are we?

That is right...Do not allow us to make you call us names and exaggerate the matter at hand...we do not want to 'drag you into YET ANOTHER of our little dramas' - ya know, because there are so many.

Just more of your usual nasty remarks. Run away Talon, this here lapdog sub gonna git u sucka!
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Lexxi Gynoid
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04-27-2009 08:57
From: Yumi Murakami
Implying that I was frustrated/unsure was a way of requesting support. As I mentioned above, I wouldn't normally directly say "will you turn up?" because that potentially forces a blunt No. And the real, usual consequence of forcing a blunt No is that you instead get a Yes that means nothing.

Culture clash then, as mentioned up thread.

Is it Japanese or Chinese where they will say yes in response to a question (Japanese, I think; been awhile since business classes)? Something like "yes, I agree you are saying that", as opposed to "yes, I agree to the project, let's do it". Though they will just say hai, or whatever the word for yes is. Something about saving face.

I try to interpret others interest indirectly also. Almost always backfires on me. So, I try to be a lot more no, yes - certainities, not subtility. I slide into reading between the line too much (expecting it, doing it), though.
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Briana Dawson
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04-27-2009 08:58
From: Talon Brown

[junk] I'm not surprised you're spewing venom as you are wont to do about, well, pretty much everything anyway. :rolleyes:

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Pserendipity Daniels
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04-27-2009 09:06
From: Love Hastings
Hey, you brought it up!
Not the irresponsible and hysterical amateur diagnosis and mislabelling of mental illness which has been perceived in recent locked threads as a dangerous intolerance of unstable personalities.

From: Love Hastings
I would have thought you'd just be tickled by the attention. *shrugs*
I don't need that type of gratuitous discrimination that marginalizes, belittles and defames vulnerable individuals.

Pep (Just because I may admit to personality disorders does not mean that you are entitled to use derogatory or demeaning language)
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04-27-2009 09:12
From: Nina Stepford
perhaps. and in any case i wasnt motivated to mount a venomous attack against you, accusing of mounting a venomous attack.
Might I point out that the norm in these forums appears to be to put the quote at the top of the post, which your relevant comments appended underneath? In cultures that read from top to bottom it makes sense.

Pep (perhaps it is because you walk around upside down; I'm still not sure why you don't fall off the bottom of the Earth :eek: )
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04-27-2009 09:18
Switching to lamps.....that coffee table market is going to be saturated by end of day. :)
Love Hastings
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04-27-2009 09:19
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Pep (Just because I may admit to personality disorders does not mean that you are entitled to use derogatory or demeaning language)


Says the sociopath! I'm sure you don't need to justify yourselves to us. ;)
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04-27-2009 09:28
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Not the irresponsible and hysterical amateur diagnosis and mislabelling of mental illness which has been perceived in recent locked threads as a dangerous intolerance of unstable personalities.

I don't need that type of gratuitous discrimination that marginalizes, belittles and defames vulnerable individuals.

Pep (Just because I may admit to personality disorders does not mean that you are entitled to use derogatory or demeaning language)



HAHAHAHAHA, pot calling the kettle black --Ass!!!!!!!
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04-27-2009 09:29
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Pep (perhaps it is because you walk around upside down; I'm still not sure why you don't fall off the bottom of the Earth :eek: )



Weird sense of humour -- Ass!!!!!
Yumi Murakami
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04-27-2009 09:29
From: Lexxi Gynoid
Culture clash then, as mentioned up thread.


Well no, the point is that if I just directly say "Should I do that idea?" most people will say Yes just because they want to be generally nice and encouraging, rather than it being an honest opinion. That's the other point of that idea, if you back people into a corner where they have to say No, what they'll often do instead is to say Yes to avoid a clash and then find other ways of getting out of it when the time actually comes.

From: someone
Is it Japanese or Chinese where they will say yes in response to a question (Japanese, I think; been awhile since business classes)? Something like "yes, I agree you are saying that", as opposed to "yes, I agree to the project, let's do it". Though they will just say hai, or whatever the word for yes is. Something about saving face.


I'm not sure about that bit. I do know that the tatemae thing (which is not, in fact, spelt tatamae) is similar but even weirder. It would mean that if I asked to join your group, you'd be sure to say yes, and invite me over and everything - but that both of us, even me, would fully know and accept that you were acting, and that what you are doing has no bearing on whether you like me or not. Not only that, but neither of us would consider it lying, just.. acting in a way that isn't about whether we like each other. Largely because, well, we're stuck on this island with very little farming space, few natural resources, oh and did we mention the earthquakes?, and we really need to not worry about liking each other too much or we're all probably going to die.
Love Hastings
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04-27-2009 09:36
From: Pip Serendipity
HAHAHAHAHA, pot calling the kettle black --Ass!!!!!!!


Who are you? Seriously, why hide behind an alt?
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04-27-2009 09:45
From: Yumi Murakami
Well no, the point is that if I just directly say "Should I do that idea?" most people will say Yes just because they want to be generally nice and encouraging, rather than it being an honest opinion. That's the other point of that idea, if you back people into a corner where they have to say No, what they'll often do instead is to say Yes to avoid a clash and then find other ways of getting out of it when the time actually comes.
You weren't backed into any corner, and the mental gymnastics involved in getting you to make your own decision and pursue an idea is entirely too exhausting.

Note here that in this particular instance, the only reason you thought no one would buy it is because of your feelings about your social standing in Second Life, not whether or not the idea is a good idea in general that people might like.

So why should you doubt the veracity of that person's opinion?
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Nina Stepford
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04-27-2009 09:59
and the result is that your quoted text is the only thing that renders in search preview.
in any case, my comments in my own posts are appended to nothing. they are the the entire point of the post!
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Might I point out that the norm in these forums appears to be to put the quote at the top of the post, which your relevant comments appended underneath? In cultures that read from top to bottom it makes sense.

Pep (perhaps it is because you walk around upside down; I'm still not sure why you don't fall off the bottom of the Earth :eek: )
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04-27-2009 10:05
From: Cristalle Karami
You weren't backed into any corner, and the mental gymnastics involved in getting you to make your own decision and pursue an idea is entirely too exhausting.


No, what I mean is that if I had said, "I'd really like to do this but I'm not sure it'll work, should I really do it?" Then _I_ would be backing _them_ into a corner. Because, well, they couldn't really answer "No" to that without feeling like an ass. So they would answer "Yes". But since they're being backed into answering "Yes" it doesn't really mean anything, and I'd have no knowledge that when the time came, they wouldn't always just happen to be "out clubbing" at the time.

From: someone

Note here that in this particular instance, the only reason you thought no one would buy it is because of your feelings about your social standing in Second Life, not whether or not the idea is a good idea in general that people might like.

So why should you doubt the veracity of that person's opinion?


Note I'm talking about visiting it, not buying it (it's a place, not a product: on that note, can we have a Content Wanted forum instead of just a Products Wanted forum?). And on that basis, well, given that we had a shared interest anyway, why wouldn't she have invited me into things if she was interested in doing them together? That's the point, she would essentially be claiming that just because I'd built somewhere, she'd be interested in meeting up, when she wasn't before.

Bear in mind, I was quite badly hurt by several similar occasions in SL, especially the incident with the brought-in builder ruining a project, so I am probably a bit paranoid about this. But then again, if people did like me, why would I have ever thought to be paranoid? Someone even posted directly on this forum once to me that "People don't like you" (although that was.. um. I can't remember his name. The really business-focused robot guy.)
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04-27-2009 10:12
Yumi I have been watching this whole thing, and also taking into mind the conversation we had in world...

and to answer the question that is asked in the title of this thread...
"what is wrong with me?"

you are way way way too hard on yourself.

Just step outside that box and take a chance!

On that note I am done... have a nice day all.
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Yumi Murakami
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04-27-2009 10:15
From: Rhaorth Antonelli

Just step outside that box and take a chance!

On that note I am done... have a nice day all.


That's the perfect example.

I should be happy and take a chance.. but _you_ wash your hands of me.

Why then should I expect others to react any differently?
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04-27-2009 10:20
From: Yumi Murakami
That's the perfect example.

I should be happy and take a chance.. but _you_ wash your hands of me.

Why then should I expect others to react any differently?


damn it yumi stop it, stop the poor me and the accusations (you sound like I used to sound, now I can see why people got so frustrated with me)
I never said I was washing my hands of you!!

THIS is frustrating and will push people away, stop assuming dammit

I am done with this thread, however I will speak with you in world IF I have time, and IF you have time, and IF we are both logged in.

granted my chat can be spacey sometimes, as I deal with 100's of people a day, so please forgive me if I do not respond immediately and for the love of god, do not assume I am washing my hands of you

IF I decide I can not deal with you or the turmoil you put yourself in, I will tell you bluntly, I will not hide it in between lines and I will not say it on a forum


understand?
(this is what I was talking about, your assumptions are what push people away)
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04-27-2009 10:22
From: Yumi Murakami
That's the perfect example.

I should be happy and take a chance.. but _you_ wash your hands of me.

Why then should I expect others to react any differently?



Oh good Lord, please you need to. Everyone reacts differently because everyone is different. Take ownership of that and just move on.
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04-27-2009 10:27
From: Yumi Murakami
That's the perfect example.

I should be happy and take a chance.. but _you_ wash your hands of me.

Why then should I expect others to react any differently?
This is not being polite. Its being wilful, wicked even. As those who who raised you to be polite would tell you.
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04-27-2009 10:42
From: Tabliopa Underwood
This is not being polite. Its being wilful, wicked even. As those who who raised you to be polite would tell you.


Sometimes, my frustration breaks through my politeness. If being polite resulted in me being stuck on my own then, well, I have to try something else don't I? :) :)
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04-27-2009 10:57
From: Yumi Murakami
...Someone even posted directly on this forum once to me that "People don't like you" (although that was.. um. I can't remember his name. The really business-focused robot guy.)


Michael Bigwig. And if you paid even five seconds' attention to him, it was a more than he deserved. In case you didn't notice, a lot of people didn't like HIM. :)

For what it's worth, *I* like you, even though I don't think we've met in world. I've always gotten a smile out of your title ("...AttachTheEarOfACat).
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04-27-2009 10:57
From: Yumi Murakami
That's the perfect example.

I should be happy and take a chance.. but _you_ wash your hands of me.

Why then should I expect others to react any differently?


That's not the kind of Spunk I was talking about at all.....that hurts people. Someone said almost the exact thing to me the other day....and it hurt me...plus I don't want the guilt trip laid on me. My communication with them stopped immediately, based on that. If Rhaorth reaches out to you again....count your blessings.
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04-27-2009 10:59
From: Mickey Vandeverre
That's not the kind of Spunk I was talking about at all.....that hurts people. Someone said almost the exact thing to me the other day....and it hurt me...plus I don't want the guilt trip laid on me. My communication with them stopped immediately, based on that. If Rhaorth reaches out to you again....count your blessings.


But that's just the thing. If I don't complain, she "quits". If I do complain, she quits even more, because I complained. So how do I not end up alone?
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