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Lexxi Gynoid
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10-22-2007 13:40
From: Elora Lunasea
Trout, if it is you, well done sir, well done! She is one satisfied women!

Heh - I originally read your original message wrong. I thought you had written "standing over me and my alt."
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Solanghe Sarlo
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10-22-2007 13:45
From: Shep Planer
IMO I think if youre feeling hurt about what some pixelated man may or may not have done or the way theyve treated you then youre taking it all way too seriously.
Remember at the end of the day its only a game ,always has been always will be and besides you dont even know whether these men are even really men.


Thanks for saying this Shep.

My Alt is a cutie, skater/surfer dude type. I have spent just as many Lindens on his appearance as I have Solanghe (another paper doll to play with - heh). He has been "hit on" (for lack of a better word) by several lady Avi's, with NO encouragement from me; I'm just shoppin or dancin or whatever.

To me, this behavior just SCREAMS desperate. As a rl woman, I find this quite disturbing. I want to tell them, "Geez Sis, go play! Build something, shop, go to a museum or park or take a class or do open mic or....etc". Ya'll know what I mean.


I dunno. Weird. I guess I don't get it. I hope I don't sound judgmental cause that's not my intent. But, I think the emphasis is in the wrong place. Just my 2cents.


Sol
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Colette Meiji
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10-22-2007 13:54
I don't see where the OP says anything about wanting a SL to RL relationship.

All I see is her wanting a SL relationship/partnership.

I also don't see where she is asking for a deep, meaningful relationship. She just wants a SL relationship where the guy shes dating wont cheat on her, that will be exclusive with her and isn't already spoken for.

This thread has included a lot of editorializing over the nature of SL relationships crediting the OP with wanting things she never said she did.
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10-22-2007 13:55
From: Lexxi Gynoid
Heh - I originally read your original message wrong. I thought you had written "standing over me and my alt."


Yea, I have to learn how to phrase that properly anyway - every time I refer to "her" it never winds up sounding right, no matter how I try and describe the situation. Just totally muddled.
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Solanghe Sarlo
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10-22-2007 13:57
From: Gummi Richthofen
I also find the most shocking and continual negativity towards male avs in SL. One is damned before one's mouth has even opened - out come all these tired old saws as listed here by Sling, without taking a moment to discover whether they actually apply to the person driving the av/character.



Agrees. I have found this to be true. I have also found that when I am my male Alt, I get the most obnoxious, unasked for "male bonding" behavior directed at me if I'm in a place where there are female Avi', that is very like what I witness in real life as a rl woman. "Whoa dude, look at the boobs on that one!" :rolleyes:


*shugs*
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Lexxi Gynoid
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10-22-2007 14:03
From: Solanghe Sarlo
Agrees. I have found this to be true. I have also found that when I am my male Alt, I get the most obnoxious, unasked for "male bonding" behavior directed at me if I'm in a place where there are female Avi', that is very like what I witness in real life as a rl woman. "Whoa dude, look at the boobs on that one!" :rolleyes:


*shugs*

With all of these new names, maybe I should get a male alt to see what there is to see :)
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10-22-2007 14:06
From: Colette Meiji
I don't see where the OP says anything about wanting a SL to RL relationship.

All I see is her wanting a SL relationship/partnership.

I also don't see where she is asking for a deep, meaningful relationship. She just wants a SL relationship where the guy shes dating wont cheat on her, that will be exclusive with her and isn't already spoken for.

This thread has included a lot of editorializing over the nature of SL relationships crediting the OP with wanting things she never said she did.


That's a good point, Colette. The OP wasn't completely clear with what she was looking for. It may have been somebody just to play house with or just to have a SL relationship with, not necessarily to find her soul mate. If she is still reading this, maybe she can clarify.

If it's just a SL relationship, I guess she should apply the same general advice. Don't go looking for it as much as you go looking for fun and to meet some interesting people. there are a LOT of people running around SL. I'm sure she'll make some good friends and wind up partnered with someone who fits her needs. It will just take a little time to develop the relationship, and she might as well get used to being hit on, as it seems to happen a LOT.

The lesbian groups don't help. If I was looking for someone to partner with, I would assume that she and I wouldn't be a good fit, since I'm male.
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10-22-2007 14:07
From: Lexxi Gynoid
With all of these new names, maybe I should get a male alt to see what there is to see :)


Do it!! We can hang out and check out women. I'll teach you all about football and beer and how to scratch yourself, then we'll fix a car and go fishing.
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Colette Meiji
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10-22-2007 14:08
From: Trout Recreant
The lesbian groups don't help. If I was looking for someone to partner with, I would assume that she and I wouldn't be a good fit, since I'm male.


That was the point I was trying to make about her groups.

LOL

I don't see where the battle of the sexes comes in.
Solanghe Sarlo
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10-22-2007 14:10
From: Gummi Richthofen
Well, look at the situation. Men are told over and over again that they are the bad types, that they "think with their dick" and so on. Then they are told that having sex is something begrudged by an indifferent woman who, if they should disagree with her, will leave with 50% of their life's assets.

In what way would this encourage them to start or maintain a capital-R relationship?

(in RL, the response to all this in London has lead to an immense mushrooming of the escort business - both the with-sex and without-sex kinds - in which fundamentally the guy pays the girl not for the companionship, but to go away and leave him alone afterwards. It's still used as a marriage bureau by "adventurous" ladies though, and lately as a money mill by organised criminals. If things can get THAT bad THAT fast - this is strictly a post-2000 problem here - in RL, imagine how quickly this can change inside SL!)



Very good point Gummi. Due-ly noted. And I can say that I get the escort concept - less drama - rama.
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Cristalle Karami
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10-22-2007 14:22
What's the problem with SL? The same as what's wrong with RL. People can be turds.
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Colette Meiji
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10-22-2007 14:25
From: Cristalle Karami
What's the problem with SL? The same as what's wrong with RL. People can be turds.


Yeah meeting men (or women) in SL is a lot like meeting them in the stereotypical "Single's bar"

You are gonna meet a lot of losers. Thats just how it works. The higher your expectations the more likely you are to get disappointed.
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10-22-2007 14:30
From: Cristalle Karami
What's the problem with SL? The same as what's wrong with RL. People can be turds.


I think this every time someone complains about SL relationships. Geez, they sound an awful lot like RL relationships. There are a lot of idiots out there in RL as well, and you just have to deal with them as you make your way through life. As a woman, you'll run into plenty of guys who just want you for sex and as a guy, you'll usually get nothing but rejection and pain.

Every once in a while, something wonderful will happen that makes it all worth while.

See? RL=SL
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10-22-2007 14:45
From: Coyote Momiji
She may be a member of all those lesbian groups in the hopes she'll have more hope of meeting a biological male there.

*cough*



HA! *snorts milk out of my nose*
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10-22-2007 15:02
From: Trout Recreant
Do it!! We can hang out and check out women. I'll teach you all about football and beer and how to scratch yourself, then we'll fix a car and go fishing.



Oooo, can I come?! But, as Sol?
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10-22-2007 15:05
From: Solanghe Sarlo
Oooo, can I come?! But, as Sol?


Of course! We'll drink beer, watch the game on a big screen tv and look at women that we are too chicken to go up and talk to. One of us will get drunk and someone will slap him, then we'll fall out of our chairs laughing. If we're lucky, we'll find a bachelorette party and try to crash it, because we're so damn charming when we've been drinking.

How do you feel about those spicy little chicken wings?
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10-22-2007 15:16
From: Trout Recreant
Of course! We'll drink beer, watch the game on a big screen tv and look at women that we are too chicken to go up and talk to. One of us will get drunk and someone will slap him, then we'll fall out of our chairs laughing. If we're lucky, we'll find a bachelorette party and try to crash it, because we're so damn charming when we've been drinking.

How do you feel about those spicy little chicken wings?

And then you park your car on my lawn, piss in my bushes, and puke on my front steps, and I'll have to come out with the shotgun, just like every other year. Oh wait...those are the trick or treaters. Never mind.
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Lexxi Gynoid
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10-22-2007 15:18
From: Trout Recreant
Of course! We'll drink beer, watch the game on a big screen tv and look at women that we are too chicken to go up and talk to. One of us will get drunk and someone will slap him, then we'll fall out of our chairs laughing. If we're lucky, we'll find a bachelorette party and try to crash it, because we're so damn charming when we've been drinking.

How do you feel about those spicy little chicken wings?

Ok, if we do this, I'll have to come as Lexxi. SL wouldn't let me create an alt.
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Colette Meiji
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10-22-2007 15:20
From: Lexxi Gynoid
Ok, if we do this, I'll have to come as Lexxi. SL wouldn't let me create an alt.


Just wear a fake prim mustache and you should be good.

Oh yeah and flats instead of pumps.
Sardonicus Jacobus
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10-22-2007 15:21
I am not sure about the whole negativity thing towards male avatars. I only have one avatar that I use and it looks like me. Everyone I've met so far has been pretty nice. Hmm, maybe they feel sorry for me. :P

On a more serious note, I think a big problem with any relationship in SL is that people are trying to be what they would like to be, not what they are. The disconnect between trying and succeeding causes lots of problems, I bet. Now I'm off to find myself a giant, bearded, mountain man avatar with a bone through his nose.
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10-22-2007 15:29
From: Brenda Connolly
And then you park your car on my lawn, piss in my bushes, and puke on my front steps, and I'll have to come out with the shotgun, just like every other year. Oh wait...those are the trick or treaters. Never mind.


That's the spirit!! Boys night out! Too bad we can't gamble...or maybe we can.

OK - (OMG, this is gonna be great!). We go to a pick up spot. Bar, dance club, something. Everyone throws some money into the pot. First one to get SLaid wins. Seriously. Watching you women in male avatars try to pick up women would absolutely make my life complete. You have to post the IM's into a group IM so we can see how you do. We'll get you all the necessary gear to close the deal - up to you to make it match if you care. Then we expect to hear the details.

OMG - this idea is right up there. Derbor, Chris, Ray, Mal, all other legit males on the boards. Tell me this isn't going to be comedy GOLD.

EDIT - it can't be a sex club - you're going to have to put out at least a little effort.
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10-22-2007 15:52
From: Trout Recreant
Temple of Love? 15 minutes? Make yourself pretty.


Too late! Monkey girl is taken!
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10-22-2007 16:01
From: Cherry Czervik
Too late! Monkey girl is taken!


I was just goofing around, but hey! Congratulations! How about dressing up like monkey boy and taking me up on my boy's night out challenge above. I think you'd probably do pretty well.
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10-22-2007 16:17
From: Trout Recreant
...How about dressing up like monkey boy and taking me up on my boy's night out challenge above.
See, Trout, it's a great idea but the whole SLaid thing that happens AFTER the successful pickup is a deterrent for many of the women here. Great tho it would be to finally prove, once and for all, that women know how to pick up women better than guys do ;)

Now, maybe we could work this with a new alt account whose login we all know ... named, of course, Cyrano something ... where one of we women does the pickup, and then one of you guys takes over from there. :D

hmmm??? *looks at Trout speculatively and riffles her wad of cash*

p.s. /me throws a chocolate-covered copy of the TOS into a corner to distract Strife from this highly illegal idea
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10-22-2007 16:27
From: Nika Talaj
See, Trout, it's a great idea but the whole SLaid thing that happens AFTER the successful pickup is a deterrent for many of the women here. Great tho it would be to finally prove, once and for all, that women know how to pick up women better than guys do ;)

Now, maybe we could work this with a new alt account whose login we all know ... named, of course, Cyrano something ... where one of we women does the pickup, and then one of you guys takes over from there. :D


You mean you wouldn't enjoy RP'ing really bad prim penis sex?? Don't you want to get the full experience of satisfying yourself quickly with little or no regard to her and then rolling over and falling asleep?

EDIT: Or the BDSM equiv: click the bed a few times, .grab, .yank, "get on!"

:)
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