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Mitshiko Truss
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07-24-2006 16:55
woot for my first post on SL....ive been here 120-ish days and wow
Corvus Drake
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07-24-2006 16:59
From: Kevn Klein
Prove it! ;)



The scientific method requires you disprove, not prove. Though according to most Christian doctrine, all are born without faith, which is why many denominations baptize babies, to save children who die from hell. So yeah, even without science, Christianity itself says babies are atheists.
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Kevn Klein
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07-24-2006 17:04
From: Corvus Drake
The scientific method requires you disprove, not prove. Though according to most Christian doctrine, all are born without faith, which is why many denominations baptize babies, to save children who die from hell. So yeah, even without science, Christianity itself says babies are atheists.

That would be another misrepresentation, in my opinion, this time of "most Christian doctrine". Where do you get these facts?
Kevn Klein
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07-24-2006 17:05
From: Mitshiko Truss
woot for my first post on SL....ive been here 120-ish days and wow

Congrats! :)
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07-24-2006 17:07
From: Corvus Drake
a lack of belief tends to mean people lack the reason to behave like fucktards


So I have no reason to behave like a fucktard. Awesome!

This whole thing about the religious having moral superiority over us atheists is total BS. All humans have the ability to feel empathy and can build a moral framework built from understanding and respecting other humans. If you look in nature you see many animals performing self-less acts and co-operating even when it may not benefit them personally. Humans are even more inclined to feel empathy towards others. This includes feeling empathy towards not only humans, but even other species. It takes psychological trauma to mess up a person enough to not feel empathy. Those are the fucktards.
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07-24-2006 17:30
From: Mark Gjellerup
So I have no reason to behave like a fucktard. Awesome!

This whole thing about the religious having moral superiority over us atheists is total BS. All humans have the ability to feel empathy and can build a moral framework built from understanding and respecting other humans. If you look in nature you see many animals performing self-less acts and co-operating even when it may not benefit them personally. Humans are even more inclined to feel empathy towards others. This includes feeling empathy towards not only humans, but even other species. It takes psychological trauma to mess up a person enough to not feel empathy. Those are the fucktards.



Agreed. And religion often leads to psychological trauma. thus my point.
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Corvus Drake
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07-24-2006 17:31
From: Kevn Klein
That would be another misrepresentation, in my opinion, this time of "most Christian doctrine". Where do you get these facts?



I was a very well-traveled Christian for many years before being Saved from Christianity :).
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Kevn Klein
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07-24-2006 17:43
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From: Corvus Drake
I was a very well-traveled Christian for many years before being Saved from Christianity :).

Where did you travel that gave you such insight?
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07-24-2006 17:51
Most of the United States through various cross-denominational youth and young adult retreats and missions. I can't claim to have Europe under my belt on this issue but I've friends who convey similar experiences in Europe and Central America. You can always tell what a belief is REALLY about by analyzing what they teach their children.
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Kevn Klein
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07-25-2006 05:53
From: Corvus Drake
.......You can always tell what a belief is REALLY about by analyzing what they teach their children.

Are you suggesting Christians don't teach their children any science? I mean, if science is from the Devil they must not teach it at all, right?
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07-25-2006 05:54
From: Kevn Klein
Are you suggesting Christians don't teach their children any science? I mean, if science is from the Devil they must not teach it at all, right?

you can't let this thread die can you?
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07-25-2006 05:55
From: Kevn Klein
Are you suggesting Christians don't teach their children any science? I mean, if science is from the Devil they must not teach it at all, right?


Depends on the science, depends on the christian.
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07-25-2006 05:56
From: Billybob Goodliffe
you can't let this thread die can you?


Gives him something to do. :)
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07-25-2006 05:57
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Gives him something to do. :)

that maybe, but even I am starting to get irritated with this thread
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Kevn Klein
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07-25-2006 06:00
From: Corvus Drake
The scientific method requires you disprove, not prove. Though according to most Christian doctrine, all are born without faith, which is why many denominations baptize babies, to save children who die from hell. ......

1. You, the one making the claim, must provide evidence for your hypothesis before requiring any falsification.

2. Which religions baptise babies besides the Catholics? Most non-Catholic Christians believe one must choose to be baptized, and babies can't choose.
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07-25-2006 06:02
From: Kevn Klein
1. You, the one making the claim, must provide evidence for your hypothesis before requiring any falsification.

2. Which religions baptise babies besides the Catholics? Most non-Catholic Christians believe one must choose to be baptized, and babies can't choose.

hello BAPTISTS? METHODISTS? the parents choose
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Kevn Klein
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07-25-2006 06:02
From: Billybob Goodliffe
that maybe, but even I am starting to get irritated with this thread

You don't HAVE to click the link to view the thread, ya know.. :)
Kevn Klein
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07-25-2006 06:03
From: Billybob Goodliffe
hello BAPTISTS? METHODISTS? the parents choose

Wrong on both counts, Baptists baptize babies??? LOL funny :)
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07-25-2006 06:04
From: Kevn Klein
Wrong on both counts, Baptists baptize babies??? LOL funny :)

yes they do, trust me I was raised baptist but switched to methodist after I got married
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Kevn Klein
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07-25-2006 06:09
From: Billybob Goodliffe
yes they do, trust me I was raised baptist but switched to methodist after I got married


Believer's Baptism
Baptists baptize persons only after they make a personal confession of their faith in Christ.


http://www.mainstreambaptists.org/mbn1/believer's_baptism.htm

But you are right about the Methodists, they are very close to the Catholics in this regard. I was mistaken about the Methodists.
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07-25-2006 06:15
From: Kevn Klein
Believer's Baptism
Baptists baptize persons only after they make a personal confession of their faith in Christ.


http://www.mainstreambaptists.org/mbn1/believer's_baptism.htm

hmm lets see here
http://www.urbanagrace.org/baptism_united_methodist_beliefs.htm

From: someone
Parents can dedicate their children to God, and those children may or may not decide, as they grow up, to continue that dedication. Individuals, when reaching an age of ‘accountability’ may dedicate their lives to God.

When baptism is a sacrament, since it represents a gift of God, it can be given to any individual, at any time, even during infancy.
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Kevn Klein
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07-25-2006 06:18

I already agreed the Methodists are like the Catholics in this regard. The Baptists are not.
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07-25-2006 06:22
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I already agreed the Methodists are like the Catholics in this regard. The Baptists are not.

yes I saw where you had edited your post, I had already posted that though
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Carl Crabgrass
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07-25-2006 06:37
From: Corvus Drake
A lack of sociopsychological and moral direction. Better?


Whoa... I couldn't let that comment go unanswered.

Morality and ethics are not the same thing as religion, and one does not presuppose the other.

I'm agnostic atheist and I hold myself to a very high moral and ethical standard. As a member of a society, I want to be able to live peacefully within it and provide benefit to myself and others. Put simply, natural interpersonal forces guide my morals.

If you're looking for a general stereotype for atheism, I would have to say apathy is more like it, though perhaps moreso with agnosticism.
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Wiccaning is a form of 'Baptism' also....
07-25-2006 06:45
I really don't see your point Kevin on this thread...this is a 'free' country or did you forget? We are free to decide for ourselves what religion we choose to follow/believe no matter what religion that may be.

It just really aggravates me when people start whining about religious attacks on them. If your faith is strong no attack will harm nor bother you. It is when you start having questions about your faith that you fall victim to them....think about it.

Christianity is NOT the only religion in the world, and please make note that I am NOT bashing anyone for making it their choice. It's just that I am sick and tired of people being so closed minded about things they just don't understand instead of asking questions and learning something.

Being a Wiccan myself I have been bashed for being a satanist, athiest, etc....none of which fit my beliefs. But when I am 'bashed' for my religion I just ignore the ignorance, I don't make a scene of it, nor do I start a 'posting' war to try and justify my beliefs. Having faith in your beliefs, no matter what those beliefs are, will persevere over anything!

Many people have different beliefs, that's what makes this world so interesting. Just think of a world with everyone thinking, doing, wearing, eating and believing the same thing as the next human being.....BORING!

Oh, now for what I really started this post for....

Baptism is in many religions, not just Christianity. In my religion it's called 'Wiccaning'...and it's performed much like it is in yours and for mostly the same reasons. It's a beautiful ceremony, as is Baptism. Not much difference cept different beliefs.

Now, can we all live in peace and harmony and get along with each other. I mean we all have one thing in common, we are all human beings living on the same planet...that should account for something!

Blessings,
SeXXXy Bliss
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