if only "SL Answers" wasn't no reply....

ripping off carlos mencia only makes you look more silly.

"and he did, nearly tripling the amount so now he has more camping pads than residents can be in the sim."


That's where you stated I had more camping pads than residents can be in the sim.. 40 residents allowed in the sim, 27 dance pads.. You admit you were wrong, or lying? =) Of course not, no need to let facts bother you..

nope. you did.

27 was the amount you had when I posted to SL answers. the number has changed since then and last time I looked you had like almost 50.

but regardless, you don't think nearly 30 at any rate is excessive and selfish? course not. cos you're a jackass.

we're done speaking sweetcheeks. please don't reply to the posts I make about you. you're only looking stupider each time.

I swear you two are married.

Chronic let's make out.

Umm first off torley doesnt know all the details of this. Your signs are disruptive to. You could be Ar'ed for that. Secondly your assertaining that there are 27 lemme go check... I in fact myself only count 23 dance pads. So your both wrong on the math aspect. I went and actually looked in the casino instead of looking at pics. Also still only 10 people and the sim is lagging still. Again please elaborate if its the camping chairs that are so much the problem then your also saying quite simply that the sim itself cant handle more then a few people. And if thats true there is something else going on either quite a few aspects of other things in the sim or something actually wrong with the sim itself.

He isnt being any more obtrusive in that Sim then you are with your signs. They are up ALL over the sim. File an AR go for it but the other party in this situation can file and AR to. I also checked out his other camping location and guess what ? The sim is actually more stable then your sim is Josh. And there are 28 people here instead of 10. So that leads to more of a question to you to prove that its the people. Prove that the casino is in fact the problem. Because looking around at both locations your sim seems to lag and the other sim doesnt.

You seem to be pushing the blame on the camping spot as its the easiest target to claim its causing Lag. I think the system is wonky to and that the traffic system could be a bit better but at the same time your pushing blame for the lag on the # of people which is actually unfound after my experiences in the Sim. The problem your having seems to be a common problem that has been in quite a few sims over the past month. I'll not dispute it anymore because it has been a problem for other people as well. His camping chairs arnt blocking people from getting into the Sim your signs are an Ar'able offense as well. They are obtrusive to other people in that sim, and if one was actually placed on his land even more so.

It could also be considered a form of harassment for you to continually keep these signs up and they are demeaning to the people inside it making statements like get a real job and what not.

There were never 50 dance pads out.. As I've stated 2 or 3 times already I didn't remove or add a single dance pad for weeks.. There has constantly been exactally the same # of dance pads out for the last two weeks, at all times, no change, at any point, period... I know you have ADD and probally just forgot the previous sentence, so read it again.. . Half of the dance pads remain unused the majority of the time, and the 3 in the 1st picture are virtually never used, so no, it's not selfish, I'll remove them once the avatar space is needed and you stop being a douchebag.

So we are done speaking? That mean your gonna shutup? lol

I think you are an habitual liar, off-center, and probally have a few other problems.. You moved in to a neighborhood you knew was busy and instead of easily renting another plot in a diffrent sim your going to try to move a brick wall and change the entire system.. You think the system should change because you rented land in a busy sim when there are hundreds of empty sims you could have chosen from...

Your a lowsy renter, and neighbor I might add.. Have fun whining about a non-issue, prehaps one day when you actually are negatively effected I will be happy to accomidate you..

Guido's girlfriend:

I took the screenshots so there wouldn't be any argument of how many pads there were. There were 27 when I took the screenshots as anyone with eyes can easily see. Guido just said that he's not touched the pads at all since two weeks ago. If there're now 23 then he's clearly lied, because you can see when I took the pics that there were 27.

I have permission from the landowners the signs are on to leave them up. Landowners are free to do whatever they want, as clearly exemplified by Mr. Guido's behavior. I can't be AR'd at all for anything.

And I was even being more considerate than Guido has been, because you can only see the signs from one direction PLUS they're phantom. Thus not ruining anyone's view and you can pass through them. But even if they weren't, I have permission to put them up, so I can't be AR'd even if they're twice as big and not see-through.

Bye bye baby!

There are 27 pads actually, that number hasn't changed in weeks.. You are right though, he just doesn't like camping and any time there is any problem that's the 1st place he'll point the finger.. He's not intrested in eliminating lag, he just wants to make a name for himself by starting a crusade. Like he didn't notice the 15 dots 5m from the plot he rented when he rented it.. Some people like being in a busy sim, some don't, that's cool, just don't move into a busy sim and complain about it when there are 10x as many dead sims you could have rented in..

Yes, my other sim runs fine with no lag dispite having a higher number of avatars in the sim.. To a normal person that would indicate that the campers aren't the problem. But it doesn't matter if they are the cause of the lag or not, he just doesn't want them around..

Seriously, this is VIRTUAL LAND we are talking about and this person pretends like there is not enough of this UNLIMITED RESOURCE that he HAS to rent in the sim with my club then insist that gives him a right to be a total jackarse..

Actually you can be ar'ed because of their content being detrimental to his establishment. Im by far nowhere near his gf and there is no reason to get nearly as hostile as you are. If a sign was put into his establishment which he claims you did then he can AR you. Also with or without permission the signs themselves arnt the problem it is w hat is written on them. And i will quote a sign here. "Camping Kills Sims and eats resources from those who arnt afk. Do you want to be the reason why second life sucks? GET A REAL JOB. " Get a real job in all honesty is a statement that really is the problem with the signs but you scatter them around his business in a harassing manner and that in and of itself is the problem. And ok i correct myself there are 26 but still not 27.

Even so your statements that that location is the problem for that sim are unfounded. And you get very defensive when i simply ask you to prove its the problem which your going to have to prove if you hope to actually effectively send out an AR. I post facts on a matter as opposed to unfounded things. You notice i went to the sim and looked around. I did so at at least 5 times today. I also went and looked at his other location before commenting on it.

Im not taking either of your sides just simply putting data out there. And the data doesnt support what your stating.

You're pointing out things that are incorrect simply because you don't understand the system. It's not being defensive, it's being irritated at constantly having to talk to you about this. The sim was reset twice today by the Lindens. each time when I was the only person in the sim, it was great. once his campers arrived it became crap. there's nothing more I need to discuss about it.

AR the signs if you find them offensive. Guido already did and the Linden who arrived didn't touch them.

10 people and the sim has a problem? Thats what im pointing out. There is more to it then simply people if 10 people are causing lag. A sim can handle 100 people and the mainland ones are cut down to 40 because its more of an optimal range. I understand the system probably a bit more then you do Owning a club in world. You claim if it was once in awhile it wouldnt be a problem and yet i visited another location with more people and pointed out less lag. I visted a place with 3 times as many people as well and it was as stable as 1/3 the people.

Im going by what i see not what im told and what i see is that the people arnt the problem in the situation. The way he has it setup as well pretty much negates alot of your argument. Avatars causing alot of lag is usually due to scripted objects they are wearing. Not allowing outside scripts kind of negates a large quanity of that lag. People do pull resources But 10-20 People in A sim shouldnt have the effect it does no matter how long they are there. You can ask anyone that and they can tell you that unless there are other factors in the sim degrading performance the odds of that amount of people causing that amount of lag is minimal unless they have a ton of scripts attached which is negated by no outside scripts so.

You can try to argue its the people all you want but 10-20 people lagging an entire sim is quite unfounded unless under other conditions as i have stated numerous times that there are other factors in the Sim. I've also stated numerous times now that many sims have been degraded over the last month i have actually put up a question in answers regarding that topic!!!!!

YAY ^.^

Please note this thread that i posted in SL Answers. /139/82/135125/1.html

Now as i have stated before sims are having an issue. Many sims in fact. So this argument is pretty moot that anything is the problem until a fix is actually released.

Please search the forums for the following keywords:

Camping

Clubs

Traffic

Lag

Once you've read the relevent threads there you can come back and hypothesize that camping has no effect on sim performance. Until then please stop talking because you're wrong and it's all clear to everyone else.

What's clear to everyone else is that when confronted with facts to show your hypothesis is wrong you ask people to stop talking... (Yawn)..

What's clear is you're an asshat.

ASS

HAT.

WHEE!!! ::takes off bra.::

Oh and really.

Your building is fucking ugly.

Where did you learn to build? Cos it's shaming to them too.

Your bleeding textures make me want to get a vaginoplasty just so I can fuck myself with a primbaby just to take my mind off of how ugly your casino is.

Read that thread. The lindens freaking acknowledge there is a problem and yet you dont. Camping does effect sim performance i never stated it didnt. Im saying there are other factors in that sim affecting performance. Get over your crusade honestly. Im just proving time and time again that there are other midigating circumstances to the equation. The fact that that sim was lagging with 10 people also proves my point that there ARE OTHER things going on in that sim aside from camping.

The fact that the linden's acknowledge a problem kind of moots your point of it being a problem in that SIM itself. Some sims it is a problem. This guy has it controlled enough so that it should be effecting the sim in that manner. Again in all honesty you still freaking deny that there are other causes of lag in that sim even though i have pointed out that there is a known Issue that the lindens acknowledge to be investigating and working on. You wanna just toss that out the window. Not ALL camping has an adverse effect on a sim.

Im not running in here looking at other people's complaints im looking at the sim in question your complaining about. You can deny factual evidence i brought up all you want but your clearly the only one pointing out that im wrong. I even went as far as to ask a question to the linden's on answers and you still deny there are other factos. I find that laughable. I welcome anyone to go look at the sim Dosojin and draw your own conclusions. I for one did and i find Josh's statements unfounded as i take into account other things going on.

You keep denying things im poiting out from a viewpoint of not being involved with either side here. Visited another camping spot not even Guido's that has 34 people at it. I can move around a bit better then i could in your sim what does that say. They have more casino games and what not up to and more things that would cause lag and they allow outside scripts. Non private sim to. And yet you somehow claim that 10-20 people can have as adverse and effect on a sim as yours. For the last time its not the people in that sim there are other circumstances you just wont put into the equation because you either hate being wrong or just want to push the blame on the camping chair guy because he's simply an easy target for what he does.

Babycakes, I don't care. Have some pai.

See again you show just really off base bs. There is no reason to attack someones building skills. Someone doesnt need to make something asthetically pleasing to you. Not everyone can build great and to attack that is just a childish means. You feel the need to attack and name call and that really just shows heaps about you. I havent name called here nor have i acted biased (note i went to check the locations in question) I dont feel the need to pick at little flaws like building in an attempt to try to win over a statement you made that is pretty much baseless. I put out facts and when confronted with those facts you get a bad attitude and start off on BS that has nothing to do with anything.

I'm trying to argue in a grown up manner not an immature one and yet you bring immaturity to it.

Babycakes, I don't care. Have some pai.

See thats your problem you wont acknowledge it at all even when facts are brought up. I think the majority of people if they went and looked around a bit would find the argument that camping is all evil pretty much to narrow minded. Your basis is cuz you hear about some bad places that makes all camping spots bad. Yes some places have way more then the sims means and take no steps to help cut down on it. Guido on the other had has camping pads in the 20 something range and allows no outside scripts and im sure if you honestly kindly talked with him that he'd actually be willing to help. You attack the guy and put up these signs and expect him to comply good luck. You come off as viscious and if you approached it with the attitude you have here in the forums i can see why he didnt want to comply.

I dont feel the need to stoop to your level and name call nor attack anyones skills i brought up factual evidence you wont acknowledge which just proves your on a pretty baseless crusade here. Its very sad to see people feel the need to act in such a manner. Some people take advantage of it and from what i have seen guido has not He doesnt have 30K + traffic to be on popular list but he still continues to provide free money which is out of his own pocket mind you.

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