if only "SL Answers" wasn't no reply....

Your calculations only took into account ONE of my locations..

My land is bigger, I have been here longer, I do help newbies more than any other person who has posted in this forum.

And excuse me if I see the irony of someone renting a 512m plot within the last week trying to harass a 10,000sqm plot owner who has been there for months longer than him. Yes, his rental of a 512m plot gives him alot of justification for his actions.. Please..

You're right. You've figured it out. I really have a huge crush on you and I moved my store to be next to you. Can you forgive me for all the trouble I've caused and let me get you naked?

My plot's 1070 or so, roughly. Not 512. And it's not the size of the plot baby, it's the amount of prims.

I reiterate:



You're right. You've figured it out. I really have a huge crush on you and I moved my store to be next to you. Can you forgive me for all the trouble I've caused and let me get you naked?

I doubt anything would make you shut up.. And yes, I am asking an insanely high price for my casino, which is why your statements that "I can't have that much of a stake in it I'm selling it" was complete BS.. I just don't see any point in even responding to half your crap because you refuse to listen anyway.. Um and no, I'm not sending you my transaction history, tyvm..

cos you lied about the numbers.



You're right. You've figured it out. I really have a huge crush on you and I moved my store to be next to you. Can you forgive me for all the trouble I've caused and let me get you naked?

Oh, I'm sure I can think of ONE thing.....

See the problem is you cant prove the last one being true or not. 15 people at one location where as his other location usually has closer to 30 so he's at about 45 people with the two locations. The other thing is Joshua doesnt even own the land he is on he rents a 1536 sq meter plot from OnArt who told him that the lag wasnt bad. What i've tried to point out is while they are there for camping its not always the people. You have a problem with why the people are there how about giving them some money then because thats why they are there to try and get some cash.

Alot need to do it just to get started in SL and unless you feel like going and buying everyone a skin outfit shoes and hair yourself there are valid reasons for them to camp. While Josh may not like it he did knowing rent land directly next to a camping spot. Notice the word knowingly there. He then turns around and complains about it. He knew full well it was there and if it was that big of a problem for him then why did he move in??? Not many people are receptive to help with textures he may of taken it offensively and just drowned you out its quite common. Like walking up to someone and saying i can help you with your shape. They may take offense and mabye think that you are inferring that they are ugly.

You see the problem is we cant prove otherwise. This whole thing could of been cuz something was taken out of context. Its also blown way out of proportion. I was simply trying to point out from the start that other factors are likely lagging the sim because Josh stated at first that it was the PEOPLE lagging the sim and his signs infer the same exact thing.

Your just an annoying dipshit.. Im not even going to bother anymore.. Have a nice day.. Your not intrested in a resolution or facts, your simply intrested in being a smartass to fill the days of your meaningless little life..

Have fun, I'm sure you'll get alot of moral support from fellow simple-minded fools. Your not intrested in facts, your intrested in having fun and being useless.. Have fun hording all your lindens and whining about how everyone else is greedy.. Have fun lagging sims with your presence and blaming it on others.. Have fun being useless..

(PS be sure to post in 2 seconds, because we all know you have to get the last word in no matter how moronic)..

What friggin difference does it matter if I rent from OnArt or not? Guido rents from Linden Labs.

I don't own the land for political reasons. I'm not pumping any more money into LL. I pay for my rent through the money I make selling things. It's completely irrelevent whether I rent or own the parcel.

I attempted to have a resolution multiple times. Your response was "no, I'm not doing anything you ask," and then muting and banning me. Kindof hard to discuss anything if the person can't hear you.

But no, seriously. Let's make out.

The difference here is you knowingly rented land next to that spot and knew it was there and then complained about it. Not you renting is irrelevant its the SPOT you chose to rent at and their your actions towards something you didnt like that was there before after the fact you rented the land. You tried to talk to him after placing signs up and after saying you would help with bleeding texture which he may of taken offense to. Its highly possible you do know that right.

You wouldnt walk up to someone and say you can help with their shape cuz they may take offense the same could be applied here and you cant prove it isnt the case really. Im just stating that while camping is wrong your original assertation was that it was due to the VOLUME of people in the sim rather then what they were doing. If you acknowledge the fact that there is other factors in the equation my part of the discussion is over because thats what your supposed to walk away from this with a better understanding of why the sim lags. It was never an argument on my end just pointing out something.

Dude, WHY CAN'T YOU READ ANYTHING?

I KNOWINGLY rented the plot because it was next to my FRIEND. I didn't become concerned about the casino until AFTERWARD.

You however knew of it. Being next to your friend or not you knew about it. You even stated here yourself that you asked the OnArt people about the lag and they said it wasnt to bad before you rented so which is it then? Are you lying about that because otherwise your statement here is basically contradictary to a statement you yourself made.

::hits his head against a wall.::

Happy End of Forum Day!!!

I just outfitted a friend including prim shoes and hair by taking her to the various freebie places, she spent like $50L total and looks great.

Still unless we are gunna go out and give everyone 50L in all honesty how are unverified people supposed to get on?

If they provide credit card or paypal info the get $250, and you can use a bank card or a prepaid credit card to verify even. And if they have broadband and a nice enough computer to play SL they aren't poor.

Free cock and poon in Dosojin! HOORAY!

So they really are fucking campers?

so doesn't count.

SL doesnt really need anything really high end in terms of computer. You can grab one that'll play SL pretty well for under 1k and broadband costs added into it. Doesnt mean the people are poor but they may not be able to add costs on top of what they already do. I know a good deal of people that dont have a bank card, prepaid credit card or what not from other countries and paypal isnt offered for their country. And im sure a good deal of people are in the same situation.

Lotta college kids play SL and get by on Financial Aid stuff so the unverified accounts may be the way to go for them. I was pointing out the facts that if one cannot verify for SL they are SOL unless they meet a generous person/knowledgable person or go out and camp. I reccomend newbies go play slingo as opposed to camping sure the odds are against them a bit with that one but the pots can get pretty big. Just most people joining up dont even know what it is or know how to find it and end up being in camping chairs somehow. While it is absurd to a degree and does pull some sim resources if it is over crowded (please note a sim can usually operate pretty well with over 30 people depending on the other conditions of the sim (stuff like scripts, problems with the sim itself, lots of particles and what have you)

In butler again we had 37 people in the sim with no complaints about lag, but at the same time we own 2/3 of the sim and everything scripted on land we own was done by us to be as low lag as possible. So the other variables do come into play quite often. I've been in private sims with not alot of people that were horribly scripted and lagged worse then anything i've seen. I do see the downfalls to camping but i also see some of the posotive aspects of it from a newbies point of view. Getting 2L/17 mins is better then have 0L for a good long while.

Jesus Christ, I nominate you as female Proksky. Anyone else agree?

I never thought unverified counts are a good idea or should be here. I had to pay $10 for this account and both of my alts. A one weeks trial and then ponying up to pay for the "game" is they way 90% of MMOs work. Unverified accounts just make it easier to have griefers and freeloaders. If you truly love SL you will contribute, be it by building, or buying $L or going premium. I have a very low income right now, I only get into SL because my room mate pays for DSL. I still manage to find the $15 to pay for my premium membership. I buy less snacks and soda and pay for SL with the money. So being poor is no excuse not to contribute.

Im nowhere near prok. I dont take personal shots at people, call names, or rant about little freaking weird cospiracys. Yes i agree with Maeve unverified accounts were a bad idea. But they are there and first LL made accounts for the first account free for a good long while. It was a way to get them to cut out the basic stipends plain and simple sadly =/. If they still expect people to pony up some money for an account and provide credit info or something of the sort they would of needed to provide a little extra incentive. Josh you simply dont want to hear that some aspects of camping are actually good you want it 100% bad for everyone but thats not always the case no matter how much you try it to be.

Your more like Prok is then I am as you resort to name calling when you cant accept factual evidence on a matter where as i dont feel the need to do so. Your the one running around calling people ass hats and what not. I'm simply point out that there are other things plain and simple if you accept it great if you dont whatever but the fact remains it still exists you just dont want to acknowledge it. As i had stated in other posts i think LL should go back to the old system of one free basic account and pay there after. You can look up posts where i have stated that myself. Its just about numbers now and its quite a silly thing to do really if you want to keep the enjoyment level of other people up.

But they did do it and the unverified accounts want money as much as the next person. Josh if you have nothing left to contribute here other then snarky little remarks stop posting please because some of us are actually trying to post our opinion in a serious manner. In all seriousness i see a downside to camping as many others do i dont sit on camping chairs, i dont own camping chairs and i do frown on people that offer them. I however dont think campers are leaches under certain circumstances. Being unverified is one of those circumstances but that varies heavily to a degree we dont actually know their financial situation. I have friends that are in college that end up living off of ramen noodles and egg's because thats about all they can afford the college provides the internet and some of them may or may not have a computer. I got mine originally before i went off to college which was bought as a family computer that i upgraded but aside from that im out of college and earn an income anyways so thats besides the point.

Its easy for folks in the U.S to register as verified sure but its not always so easy for folks outside the U.S to register as verified because of a lack of things quite possibly. I have friends that have computers in countries like this where the country itself provides internet services for educational purposes mainly. It happens on occasion where there are situations where its not the persons fault that they are not verified. But then i think about the broad range of people world wide when i state people and i've met more folks outside the U.S in my time in SL then i have met people in the u.s.

I do contribute to SL my store isnt up at the moment because its being designed but i do get requests for work and to show people work i've done for them to buy. I pay 95 usd a month in fee's to LL aside from buying mabye 5 usd worth of L a month on top of it so i end up forking out 100 bucks a month towards this. I dont ask for a return and never thought of seeking one i end up spending my money that i make in world. Its not always that these people dont care about SL they just may not be able to do certain things.

I just wish that people acknowledge more then one side of a situation that came up. Everyone always see's the bad things but in some situations which in this case was a situation that was created that could and still can be cut down a bit. I just acknowledge these situation exist. As i said i think LL should go back to the old system b4 unverified accounts and give the basic accounts at least mabye 10L a week so they can mabye upload something. Also i agree the traffic system is to easily abused and should be changed to discourage camping but at the same time i feel they could make camping more of a thing to help out newbies if they wanted to but thats iffy.

I do think the best and easiest solution is changing the traffic system to discourage people making camping chairs on such a big basis, but at the same time i do see that there is a slightly good side to camping which was what i was trying to express. Those that otherwise have no way of getting money right off can get going a little with camping. The thing i think in that situation however is that they should be based like the money tree's and only be for so many days old. As they are now get rid of em by all means.

If they were changed to be a way to help out newbies would people in all honesty have a problem as much as they do now with them?