Im nowhere near prok. I dont take personal shots at people, call names, or rant about little freaking weird cospiracys. Yes i agree with Maeve unverified accounts were a bad idea. But they are there and first LL made accounts for the first account free for a good long while. It was a way to get them to cut out the basic stipends plain and simple sadly =/. If they still expect people to pony up some money for an account and provide credit info or something of the sort they would of needed to provide a little extra incentive. Josh you simply dont want to hear that some aspects of camping are actually good you want it 100% bad for everyone but thats not always the case no matter how much you try it to be.
Your more like Prok is then I am as you resort to name calling when you cant accept factual evidence on a matter where as i dont feel the need to do so. Your the one running around calling people ass hats and what not. I'm simply point out that there are other things plain and simple if you accept it great if you dont whatever but the fact remains it still exists you just dont want to acknowledge it. As i had stated in other posts i think LL should go back to the old system of one free basic account and pay there after. You can look up posts where i have stated that myself. Its just about numbers now and its quite a silly thing to do really if you want to keep the enjoyment level of other people up.
But they did do it and the unverified accounts want money as much as the next person. Josh if you have nothing left to contribute here other then snarky little remarks stop posting please because some of us are actually trying to post our opinion in a serious manner. In all seriousness i see a downside to camping as many others do i dont sit on camping chairs, i dont own camping chairs and i do frown on people that offer them. I however dont think campers are leaches under certain circumstances. Being unverified is one of those circumstances but that varies heavily to a degree we dont actually know their financial situation. I have friends that are in college that end up living off of ramen noodles and egg's because thats about all they can afford the college provides the internet and some of them may or may not have a computer. I got mine originally before i went off to college which was bought as a family computer that i upgraded but aside from that im out of college and earn an income anyways so thats besides the point.
Its easy for folks in the U.S to register as verified sure but its not always so easy for folks outside the U.S to register as verified because of a lack of things quite possibly. I have friends that have computers in countries like this where the country itself provides internet services for educational purposes mainly. It happens on occasion where there are situations where its not the persons fault that they are not verified. But then i think about the broad range of people world wide when i state people and i've met more folks outside the U.S in my time in SL then i have met people in the u.s.
I do contribute to SL my store isnt up at the moment because its being designed but i do get requests for work and to show people work i've done for them to buy. I pay 95 usd a month in fee's to LL aside from buying mabye 5 usd worth of L a month on top of it so i end up forking out 100 bucks a month towards this. I dont ask for a return and never thought of seeking one i end up spending my money that i make in world. Its not always that these people dont care about SL they just may not be able to do certain things.
I just wish that people acknowledge more then one side of a situation that came up. Everyone always see's the bad things but in some situations which in this case was a situation that was created that could and still can be cut down a bit. I just acknowledge these situation exist. As i said i think LL should go back to the old system b4 unverified accounts and give the basic accounts at least mabye 10L a week so they can mabye upload something. Also i agree the traffic system is to easily abused and should be changed to discourage camping but at the same time i feel they could make camping more of a thing to help out newbies if they wanted to but thats iffy.
I do think the best and easiest solution is changing the traffic system to discourage people making camping chairs on such a big basis, but at the same time i do see that there is a slightly good side to camping which was what i was trying to express. Those that otherwise have no way of getting money right off can get going a little with camping. The thing i think in that situation however is that they should be based like the money tree's and only be for so many days old. As they are now get rid of em by all means.
If they were changed to be a way to help out newbies would people in all honesty have a problem as much as they do now with them?
Your more like Prok is then I am as you resort to name calling when you cant accept factual evidence on a matter where as i dont feel the need to do so. Your the one running around calling people ass hats and what not. I'm simply point out that there are other things plain and simple if you accept it great if you dont whatever but the fact remains it still exists you just dont want to acknowledge it. As i had stated in other posts i think LL should go back to the old system of one free basic account and pay there after. You can look up posts where i have stated that myself. Its just about numbers now and its quite a silly thing to do really if you want to keep the enjoyment level of other people up.
But they did do it and the unverified accounts want money as much as the next person. Josh if you have nothing left to contribute here other then snarky little remarks stop posting please because some of us are actually trying to post our opinion in a serious manner. In all seriousness i see a downside to camping as many others do i dont sit on camping chairs, i dont own camping chairs and i do frown on people that offer them. I however dont think campers are leaches under certain circumstances. Being unverified is one of those circumstances but that varies heavily to a degree we dont actually know their financial situation. I have friends that are in college that end up living off of ramen noodles and egg's because thats about all they can afford the college provides the internet and some of them may or may not have a computer. I got mine originally before i went off to college which was bought as a family computer that i upgraded but aside from that im out of college and earn an income anyways so thats besides the point.
Its easy for folks in the U.S to register as verified sure but its not always so easy for folks outside the U.S to register as verified because of a lack of things quite possibly. I have friends that have computers in countries like this where the country itself provides internet services for educational purposes mainly. It happens on occasion where there are situations where its not the persons fault that they are not verified. But then i think about the broad range of people world wide when i state people and i've met more folks outside the U.S in my time in SL then i have met people in the u.s.
I do contribute to SL my store isnt up at the moment because its being designed but i do get requests for work and to show people work i've done for them to buy. I pay 95 usd a month in fee's to LL aside from buying mabye 5 usd worth of L a month on top of it so i end up forking out 100 bucks a month towards this. I dont ask for a return and never thought of seeking one i end up spending my money that i make in world. Its not always that these people dont care about SL they just may not be able to do certain things.
I just wish that people acknowledge more then one side of a situation that came up. Everyone always see's the bad things but in some situations which in this case was a situation that was created that could and still can be cut down a bit. I just acknowledge these situation exist. As i said i think LL should go back to the old system b4 unverified accounts and give the basic accounts at least mabye 10L a week so they can mabye upload something. Also i agree the traffic system is to easily abused and should be changed to discourage camping but at the same time i feel they could make camping more of a thing to help out newbies if they wanted to but thats iffy.
I do think the best and easiest solution is changing the traffic system to discourage people making camping chairs on such a big basis, but at the same time i do see that there is a slightly good side to camping which was what i was trying to express. Those that otherwise have no way of getting money right off can get going a little with camping. The thing i think in that situation however is that they should be based like the money tree's and only be for so many days old. As they are now get rid of em by all means.
If they were changed to be a way to help out newbies would people in all honesty have a problem as much as they do now with them?
no but you do write essay-length posts that no one of reasonable character has the time to read.
nothing personal.
there's nothing good about camping. you'll never convince me otherwise.
here, as in life, it's not my responsibility to ensure that an individual has the money to buy primcocks and flexihair if they lack the skills required to get them ahead enough in life to obtain a credit/debit card and enough money to use the internet.
it's not my problem. it's not my job.
camping is, however, something that directly affects the performance of my Second Life and adversely interrupts it. that's end. end of story. hands down.
it has no value here. it's a system selfishly employed by douchetools to make their parcels look more popular than they actually are, cos lord knows none of the places on the Popular Places list would have a lot of sustainable traffic without camping pads. cos they're valueless. they're blights.
newbies use the system cos they don't know any better but that's no excuse.
it's nearly evil the way people use camping pads in public sims without regard for other people they share space with. evil and selfish.
and that's the last I'm saying on this subject. everyone else agrees with me but you and Guido. Guido's obviously biased but what's your damage?
maeve please lock this for fuck's sake and fuck me gently with a chainsaw?