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Joshua Nightshade
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09-07-2006 08:49
From: Lina Pussycat
Im nowhere near prok. I dont take personal shots at people, call names, or rant about little freaking weird cospiracys. Yes i agree with Maeve unverified accounts were a bad idea. But they are there and first LL made accounts for the first account free for a good long while. It was a way to get them to cut out the basic stipends plain and simple sadly =/. If they still expect people to pony up some money for an account and provide credit info or something of the sort they would of needed to provide a little extra incentive. Josh you simply dont want to hear that some aspects of camping are actually good you want it 100% bad for everyone but thats not always the case no matter how much you try it to be.

Your more like Prok is then I am as you resort to name calling when you cant accept factual evidence on a matter where as i dont feel the need to do so. Your the one running around calling people ass hats and what not. I'm simply point out that there are other things plain and simple if you accept it great if you dont whatever but the fact remains it still exists you just dont want to acknowledge it. As i had stated in other posts i think LL should go back to the old system of one free basic account and pay there after. You can look up posts where i have stated that myself. Its just about numbers now and its quite a silly thing to do really if you want to keep the enjoyment level of other people up.

But they did do it and the unverified accounts want money as much as the next person. Josh if you have nothing left to contribute here other then snarky little remarks stop posting please because some of us are actually trying to post our opinion in a serious manner. In all seriousness i see a downside to camping as many others do i dont sit on camping chairs, i dont own camping chairs and i do frown on people that offer them. I however dont think campers are leaches under certain circumstances. Being unverified is one of those circumstances but that varies heavily to a degree we dont actually know their financial situation. I have friends that are in college that end up living off of ramen noodles and egg's because thats about all they can afford the college provides the internet and some of them may or may not have a computer. I got mine originally before i went off to college which was bought as a family computer that i upgraded but aside from that im out of college and earn an income anyways so thats besides the point.

Its easy for folks in the U.S to register as verified sure but its not always so easy for folks outside the U.S to register as verified because of a lack of things quite possibly. I have friends that have computers in countries like this where the country itself provides internet services for educational purposes mainly. It happens on occasion where there are situations where its not the persons fault that they are not verified. But then i think about the broad range of people world wide when i state people and i've met more folks outside the U.S in my time in SL then i have met people in the u.s.

I do contribute to SL my store isnt up at the moment because its being designed but i do get requests for work and to show people work i've done for them to buy. I pay 95 usd a month in fee's to LL aside from buying mabye 5 usd worth of L a month on top of it so i end up forking out 100 bucks a month towards this. I dont ask for a return and never thought of seeking one i end up spending my money that i make in world. Its not always that these people dont care about SL they just may not be able to do certain things.

I just wish that people acknowledge more then one side of a situation that came up. Everyone always see's the bad things but in some situations which in this case was a situation that was created that could and still can be cut down a bit. I just acknowledge these situation exist. As i said i think LL should go back to the old system b4 unverified accounts and give the basic accounts at least mabye 10L a week so they can mabye upload something. Also i agree the traffic system is to easily abused and should be changed to discourage camping but at the same time i feel they could make camping more of a thing to help out newbies if they wanted to but thats iffy.

I do think the best and easiest solution is changing the traffic system to discourage people making camping chairs on such a big basis, but at the same time i do see that there is a slightly good side to camping which was what i was trying to express. Those that otherwise have no way of getting money right off can get going a little with camping. The thing i think in that situation however is that they should be based like the money tree's and only be for so many days old. As they are now get rid of em by all means.

If they were changed to be a way to help out newbies would people in all honesty have a problem as much as they do now with them?


no but you do write essay-length posts that no one of reasonable character has the time to read.

nothing personal.

there's nothing good about camping. you'll never convince me otherwise.

here, as in life, it's not my responsibility to ensure that an individual has the money to buy primcocks and flexihair if they lack the skills required to get them ahead enough in life to obtain a credit/debit card and enough money to use the internet.

it's not my problem. it's not my job.

camping is, however, something that directly affects the performance of my Second Life and adversely interrupts it. that's end. end of story. hands down.

it has no value here. it's a system selfishly employed by douchetools to make their parcels look more popular than they actually are, cos lord knows none of the places on the Popular Places list would have a lot of sustainable traffic without camping pads. cos they're valueless. they're blights.

newbies use the system cos they don't know any better but that's no excuse.

it's nearly evil the way people use camping pads in public sims without regard for other people they share space with. evil and selfish.

and that's the last I'm saying on this subject. everyone else agrees with me but you and Guido. Guido's obviously biased but what's your damage?

maeve please lock this for fuck's sake and fuck me gently with a chainsaw?
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Lina Pussycat
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09-07-2006 09:10
From: Joshua Nightshade
no but you do write essay-length posts that no one of reasonable character has the time to read.

nothing personal.

there's nothing good about camping. you'll never convince me otherwise.

here, as in life, it's not my responsibility to ensure that an individual has the money to buy primcocks and flexihair if they lack the skills required to get them ahead enough in life to obtain a credit/debit card and enough money to use the internet.

it's not my problem. it's not my job.

camping is, however, something that directly affects the performance of my Second Life and adversely interrupts it. that's end. end of story. hands down.

it has no value here. it's a system selfishly employed by douchetools to make their parcels look more popular than they actually are, cos lord knows none of the places on the Popular Places list would have a lot of sustainable traffic without camping pads. cos they're valueless. they're blights.

newbies use the system cos they don't know any better but that's no excuse.

it's nearly evil the way people use camping pads in public sims without regard for other people they share space with. evil and selfish.

and that's the last I'm saying on this subject. everyone else agrees with me but you and Guido. Guido's obviously biased but what's your damage?

maeve please lock this for fuck's sake and fuck me gently with a chainsaw?


You state there is nothing good. Newbies getting some money is the only redeeming quality of it that I'll admit. Aside from that no there isnt a good aspect to it at all and when they get snarky with the rates its quite dense. That why the system i was stating to change it to help newbies would be better it still wouldnt solve the lag issue the scripts cause sadly. I have no damage im not protecting camping i dont like it anymore then you do. I was looking forward to dwell payments going away cuz i thought hey mabye these places would resort to honest work now but nope didnt happen. However think the attitude that they are worthless or cant get ahead in life is a little off really.

Not everyone is a genius or can go to a great school to get into a high paying job. Alot of people get by on what they can and your basically saying they are worthless if they do. Thats my damage with you. I have my problems with camping as does everyone else. But its not the newbies faults. They may not know better and that isnt your fault but its not their fault for an entire sim lagging when there are only 10-20 people there that is my point. I was trying to point out to you and even have stated here that it WAS/IS the CASINO CAUSING THE LAG. However i was trying to point out that it was due to reasons other then the people being there which was your original argument.

The statments i made about scripts and timers if anything would of helped you if you didnt take on a defense with me straight away. Mabye my tone comes off as wrong as you cant really hear me speaking in here and my typing style is a bit harsher on paper then its meant to sound in my head. I swear the fingers get ahead of the mind sometimes. Pitfalls of working in a field where i use computers alot i supposed =/. Why cant everyone just get along really. Im sure he'd remove them if he knew more about them but sadly he didnt talk to you right away but that's his fault something may of been resolved if he had =/. But that doesnt give you reason to put up signs around the establishment if it was that bad im sure you could of called a linden over to talk with him.

I hate to use this example but i had trouble in the sim im in with a person not naming names here for tos sakes but they had an object that was causing alot of collision stuff. He also had up stuff that was temp on rezzing hundreds of plants onto my land. I aksed him 3 times then Ar'ed him after he switched them back on 3 times because i had cleared them up and tried to shut off his scripts asking him to refrain from turning them on as they were rezzing onto my land(that was a rash move on my end which i later contacted them to retract the report) i then im'ed him again and explained some things about temp on rez to him. Now the collision stuff at the time wasnt known to me and when i had the linden come over he noticed that and shut it off and im'ed the person about it.

Sometimes explaining stuff does help but if guido was totally ignoring you its on him then. Why i try to call a linden to find out if something is up unless i witness it myself. Since you put out your statments and method of IM'ing on the table im inclined to see it and read it. I think mabye you made comments calmly and it came off on the wrong end to Guido and he just ended up ignoring it. Who knows *shrugs* had it happen to me when i was relatively new in SL myself so i know where your coming from there. I hope in the future mabye guido will show some respect to the people of that sim and remove some of the dance pads. But for the last time I AGREE WITH YOU!!! was just pointing out stuff to actually try and help you but it came off wrong and was pointing out other facts of the sim.

You seem like a nice enough fellow outside of the forums after talking to you so i dunno *shrugs*. Im becoming inclined to believe you more the more i go over to that sim. Like i said though the scripts are the main problem in that sim and they are the ones in the casino adding people to the equation only intesifies the problem :(. And i just type fast *shrugs* i end up typing more cuz of it cuz it doesnt seem like its near as long to me lol. Im not trying to purposly do it it just kinda happens.

*sigh* freaking sim instablitiy =/ just hit 9 fps and .2 dil =/ with only 4 people in the sim :(. I hope they get a fix going for this soon =/
Joshua Nightshade
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09-07-2006 09:20
From: Lina Pussycat
You state there is nothing good. Newbies getting some money is the only redeeming quality of it that I'll admit. Aside from that no there isnt a good aspect to it at all and when they get snarky with the rates its quite dense. That why the system i was stating to change it to help newbies would be better it still wouldnt solve the lag issue the scripts cause sadly. I have no damage im not protecting camping i dont like it anymore then you do. I was looking forward to dwell payments going away cuz i thought hey mabye these places would resort to honest work now but nope didnt happen. However think the attitude that they are worthless or cant get ahead in life is a little off really.

Not everyone is a genius or can go to a great school to get into a high paying job. Alot of people get by on what they can and your basically saying they are worthless if they do. Thats my damage with you. I have my problems with camping as does everyone else. But its not the newbies faults. They may not know better and that isnt your fault but its not their fault for an entire sim lagging when there are only 10-20 people there that is my point. I was trying to point out to you and even have stated here that it WAS/IS the CASINO CAUSING THE LAG. However i was trying to point out that it was due to reasons other then the people being there which was your original argument.

The statments i made about scripts and timers if anything would of helped you if you didnt take on a defense with me straight away. Mabye my tone comes off as wrong as you cant really hear me speaking in here and my typing style is a bit harsher on paper then its meant to sound in my head. I swear the fingers get ahead of the mind sometimes. Pitfalls of working in a field where i use computers alot i supposed =/. Why cant everyone just get along really. Im sure he'd remove them if he knew more about them but sadly he didnt talk to you right away but that's his fault something may of been resolved if he had =/. But that doesnt give you reason to put up signs around the establishment if it was that bad im sure you could of called a linden over to talk with him.

I hate to use this example but i had trouble in the sim im in with a person not naming names here for tos sakes but they had an object that was causing alot of collision stuff. He also had up stuff that was temp on rezzing hundreds of plants onto my land. I aksed him 3 times then Ar'ed him after he switched them back on 3 times because i had cleared them up and tried to shut off his scripts asking him to refrain from turning them on as they were rezzing onto my land(that was a rash move on my end which i later contacted them to retract the report) i then im'ed him again and explained some things about temp on rez to him. Now the collision stuff at the time wasnt known to me and when i had the linden come over he noticed that and shut it off and im'ed the person about it.

Sometimes explaining stuff does help but if guido was totally ignoring you its on him then. Why i try to call a linden to find out if something is up unless i witness it myself. Since you put out your statments and method of IM'ing on the table im inclined to see it and read it. I think mabye you made comments calmly and it came off on the wrong end to Guido and he just ended up ignoring it. Who knows *shrugs* had it happen to me when i was relatively new in SL myself so i know where your coming from there. I hope in the future mabye guido will show some respect to the people of that sim and remove some of the dance pads. But for the last time I AGREE WITH YOU!!! was just pointing out stuff to actually try and help you but it came off wrong and was pointing out other facts of the sim.

You seem like a nice enough fellow outside of the forums after talking to you so i dunno *shrugs*. Im becoming inclined to believe you more the more i go over to that sim. Like i said though the scripts are the main problem in that sim and they are the ones in the casino adding people to the equation only intesifies the problem :(. And i just type fast *shrugs* i end up typing more cuz of it cuz it doesnt seem like its near as long to me lol. Im not trying to purposly do it it just kinda happens.

*sigh* freaking sim instablitiy =/ just hit 9 fps and .2 dil =/ with only 4 people in the sim :(. I hope they get a fix going for this soon =/


::hugs.:: s'ok.

wanna make out? :D
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Lina Pussycat
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09-07-2006 09:24
From: Joshua Nightshade
::hugs.:: s'ok.

wanna make out? :D


Ummm have a partner ty so wouldnt do much good :P + not into men and ummmm i'm busy most of the day aside from my constant posting lol. Lucky i type fast or i'd be in trouble lol. You know im not a bad person if ya get to know me :P.
Joshua Nightshade
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09-07-2006 09:29
From: Lina Pussycat
Ummm have a partner ty so wouldnt do much good :P + not into men and ummmm i'm busy most of the day aside from my constant posting lol. Lucky i type fast or i'd be in trouble lol. You know im not a bad person if ya get to know me :P.


pffpt and I'm gay.

you're just supposed to say yes. :D
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Lina Pussycat
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09-07-2006 09:44
From: Joshua Nightshade
pffpt and I'm gay.

you're just supposed to say yes. :D


hey i work in nyc :P :P :P. But i Live in PA dont wanna live in the city lol. But :P So lets see yeah. About the thread title here wish it wasnt no reply. There are things i know the answer to and would like to post at times =/.
Trent Marshall
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09-07-2006 10:04
From: Lina Pussycat
I hope in the future mabye guido will show some respect to the people of that sim and remove some of the dance pads. But for the last time I AGREE WITH YOU!!!


Yes, YES, YESSS!!! So many of the ills of the world often times boil down to just that - respect, or the lack therof, as well as greed. Public sims overloaded with camping chairs, Swoopers, Scammers, Griefers, Forum Trolls ... you name it.
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