if only "SL Answers" wasn't no reply....

I provide a lot more than you do sexybuns.

I never said I didn't know the guy next to me. I said from day 1 he was my friend and that's why I moved to the adjoining parcel.

Firstly, your 1/8 of the sim is already for sale, so it can't be that much of an investment for you.

Secondly, all I've asked you to do is tone down the camping pads to a reasonable number. 27 isn't reasonable. It's selfish. 10 is getting better but really, as we've already calculated, you aren't entitled to having more than 5 continual campers as you own 1/8th of the sim.

So you shouldn't really have more than 5 pads if you're interested in being fair and considerate. Let whomever wants to camp wait around. It'd probably even be better for your casino business if you had a limited number of pads that kicked people off, and those who wanted to camp would have to wait around and play your casino games while they wanted for someone to free one up.

But you're not interested in being fair. Like you said, your casino has nothing else to offer SL which is why once you remove the pads there's no reason for you to be in the popular places listing.

You bore me now.

Can you not read? I tried for a week to send him nice IMs and he ignored it. The instant the signs went up a dialog began within an hour.

He originally said he never got any IMs. then later he said he got my first one where I offered to fix his textures. So you can't simultaneously receive no IMs and then admit you did receive at least once.

And considering his track record with the other stories he's told I'm fairly certain there was no computer issue involved and he got the other two as well.

Other land owners have contacted him. And if you'd like to know what his response to them was, the neighbors in the sim are all banned from his casino.

I don't really give a flip whether you believe me or not. You're not the judge.

I don't HAVE to ask someone to stop abusing the system. That's what ABUSE is. I've been very nice considering he's leeching out Dosojin and ruining the game for me, my customers, my neighbors and their customers.

Like i said the system that the camping chairs operate as though should be changed. The land sell method was to help prevent swooping. Make camping chairs a method to help out newbies you solve a bit of the problem. Land swooping was alot more sinister as they were preying on unsuspecting folks who may of not known how to sell to a specific person. It happens. But the thing is traffic supplement vs grabbing someones land for 1L that they may of paid out like 100 usd to get isnt really comparable.

The problem wasnt joshua saying that camping was bad the problem was for what reasons he said it was bad. And his signs are very just stupid in concept because he then turns around and says im not so much against campers bs when his signs state the direct opposite. I've said camping as it is is bad and should be reworked as a way to help newbies rather then be a traffic suplement.

You DO NOT KNOW anything about how SL operates. I implore you again to read the relevent threads before making statements that make you look silly. No one except newbies and club owners argue that lots of avatars in one sim don't lag things up. NO ONE. Not even the Lindens.

The signs are trying to demonstrate to the campers that their behavior is detrimental because Guido clearly doesn't care.

Campers camp because they don't know better.

Again if the signs offend you, AR them. The Lindens didn't mind them.

Joshua, prehaps it is you who doesn't know how SL operates.. You completely ignored the numerous times the point was made that sims WITH MORE PEOPLE IN THEM are LESS LAGGY..

Read the paragraph again, and one more time just to make sure.. Because you don't seem to be getting that..

Yes, I fully and completely understand the various differences between Camping and Swooping. I was not comparing their details. I was just suggesting that your defense of camping, as quoted below, is akin to the argument used by many notorious land swoopers:

Land swoopers don't typically pay out $600USD per month to the most poor residents of SL...

ok, what SL are you playing? cause more avs=more lag. Always has been that way, in the 2 1/2 years I have been here.

And your doing the same thing to him putting up your signs. So right there is the problem. So he ignored you. Mabye he didnt get your im's totally. You tried for a week to contact him over what you felt was wrong. Um constant Im'ing a person for the same reason over and over falls under harassment you do know that right? Another thing he is sapping resources but it's nothing to do with the reasoning you said. I pointed out the things that were more likely to be sapping resources. Which if you actually would read it would of helped you.

I was saying his scripts are likely causing the lag where as your argument was campers are sapping all the resources. Yet i garuntee you if you has 10 or 20 people at your store cosntantly youd have no problem with it would you? You are bullying him to your bullying on the other hand is intentional where as what you claim his bullying isnt intentional but rather him trying to run a business. Your guilty of things as is he. He has scripts out that are running timers and your bullying him and ranting and raving over a matter that could very easily be solved by being rash and not just reacting after a week.

He could stoop to your level and put up signs around your shop saying Mech's are stupid or something which is essentially what your doing to his store. Yet you see no problem when you use tactics like this. I find your statements funny because they are simply hypocritical when your actions are taken into the factor. Why dont you just let things be and see if he actually gets rid of some of it and wait till a fix for the sims comes out. Until then you cant really prove that its him thats the problem. He is willing to get rid of some of the dance pads and mabye if you tried to contact him rationally now things would go better.

You however have turned around and called him an asshat and what not. If you honestly expect something to be done then talk with the guy and week isnt really even a grace period for this type of thing. There are times when it takes me 2 weeks to get back to a person even if i know about it.

Yay! Thank you for saying that. I was going to, but since you did it. I don't have to repeat it. ^.^

Three IMs over the course of a week isn't "constant." I don't expect him to do anything anymore. He's exemplified himself as a jerk. I'm not waiting for him to do anything. I'm content to have the Lindens do it.

See this Lina? Maeve's a moderator. She knows more about this than you do.

Prehaps in your 2.5 years of playing SL you didn't come across many places that scripted nearly every item in the casino to be as lag-free as possible and only active when used.. Prehaps you never came across a place that did things like turn off outside scripts to kill all the attachments avatars wear. Prehaps you never noticed when server A is faster than server B when server A has more avatars.. Prehaps you just went by what people have said in the forums years ago and took it as fact, therefore just assumed a sim couldn't run well with alot of avatars..

But then again all you have to do to dispell those myths is actually see server A run faster than server B dispite server A having more avatars, then you might stop and consider, mabye there are other factors that cause lag more than an avatar ever could..

But prehaps you will just ignore these facts and go on believing what the most vocal disgruntled minority in SL says..

Also I said earlier, which you clearly missed, that if the traffic were actually legitimate, IE, if he was DOING something with the people, I wouldn't mind the fact that the sim lags.

Empty traffic occupied by zombies is selfish.

I tried to have a grand opening party for my store and I couldn't have more thank six or seven people on my land before the sim was full, because he had over 25 people AFK. Great party.

The minority that's so far completely agreed with me entirely and includes the Lindens, who program and create the game? Torley said that camping is tantamount to abuse and they intend to revamp the system to discourage it.

Thats true Maeve but at the same time a sim can lag less with more people depending on the circumstances. Now you yourself have met me and have talked with me a bit do you think i'd throw up stuff for the hell of just throwing it up? I looked at other sims and ran into a sim with more people that was less laggy. Circumstances like scripting and what not have an effect on a sim to and nasty scripts can have a really nasty effect on a sim with a small amount of people. I've been in sims like that and lemme tell you not a fun trip. I was pointing out that i found a sim with more people that was running better then the sim in question here.

And 10-20 people really should lag a sim to that degree. You know that as well as i do. In fact anyone that has been around for awhile and been in alot of sims really knows that.

Sure, if you're on a private island with a dedicated server I'm sure it can handle 40 people just fine.

The mainland sims don't have those systems and never will so it's irrelevent to compare them.

Good, let them, I encourage it.. Where did Torley use the phrase tantamount to abuse? I'd like to see it.. That is of course your unless pulling it out of your arse.. Which I wouldn't doubt, who knows whats up there..

I truly understand cirumstances can make that true, but it's undisputed that in 2 empty sims 40 avs is going to cause more lag than 20 avs. Camping bites the big one I refuse to go places with campers cause the lag is so bad most people can't move. Turning off outside scripts doesn't effect stuff attached to avs, or AOs would not work everywhere, and no matter how well scripted a casino game is, each script causes it's own lag from still using resources. My personal opinion is that campers are parasites, and the people who supply camp chairs are worse.

Clever hotpants.

In the SL Answers post:



In my email:



27 camping pads that you put up to "show me" what a big man you are is certainly abuse. And having 20 people AFK on your sim perpetually is definitely disrupting my Second Life.

Thanks for weighing in Maeve.

So there you go. Someone who freaking moderates the forums told you it's lag-inducing. What more do you need Lina?

And you've done the same really. Putting up signs around the sim and what not your about as good a person as you claim him to be. And maeve may be a moderator and i have stated that people DO cause lag you just dont bother reading. However 10-20 people causing more lag then 30 some is a bit off really. Under those conditions the other sim was scripted in a better fashion and had less lag inducing things around. The other circumstances do heavily come into play if you compare 2 sims one with 10 - 15 people in it at the time vs one with 33-37 people in it at the time and the one with more people runs better. Thats an argument that i looked at i went and check out another sim with how this was. That sim ran better Dosojin ran worse end of it.

It was to point out that other circumstances in the sim other then people are in place like i have been saying since the start of my posting here. Also being a forum moderator doesnt designate that she knows anymore then i do. I could know as much as her or more but no one would really be able to show that. I dont want to be a moderator and I end up helping people in answeres get things answered. Today i talked to 2 people from answers one explaining why paypal probably hasnt gone thru yet. I wont say Guido is totally without guild he does have lag inducing scripts in the Sim however i wont condone the facts that you state its the people in that sim that are the problem because if that were true then most of the mroe popular places in SL would be totally screwed.

Guido let's make out and be friends.

This wasnt a private island. It was someone who owns about the same amount of land as guido does and another camping spot.

It's hopeless to talk to you.