Something to be Said about Gorean Life

You are really beginning to sound unbalanced over the issue.

Are you saying that Gorean females in sl are insane? Or are you saying that they are held against their will?

I'm saying a majority of them are chronically depressed.

Totally agress with you Lost What the point


and on another note

http://www.weneedafence.com/default.asp

Thanks for a highly intelligent, thoughtful posting that has contributed enormously to the thread.

Why are morons discussing semantics in this thread?

Please... those cut-and-paste jobs hurt my eyes.

It's not going to go anywhere constructive, anyway. I figured, why the hell not toss my gizz in the gene pool.

...Wow, not only do you contribute nothing but you try to veer the conversation violently off track!

Even if that were true, which I don't believe it is, what would that mean?

That Gor attracts depressed people?

If your reasoning is this:-

Gorean women must have little self-worth.

People who are depressed have little self-worth.

Therefore all Goreans are chronically depressed.

... there are several faults in your logic. Right from the first statement. People who are depressed tend not to be sociable. If you have ever attended an event in a Gorean sim, you will see that the audience will be highly animated, and the kajirae will, if allowed, be gossiping and having a great time. You will see Gorean females creating wonderful dances - combinations of words and movement that can be enchanting to watch. If you hear kajirae talking about their Masters, you will hear pride and pleasure in their voices.

These are not manifestations of depression.

Wherever you have gained your impressions from, they are false ones.

It's one of those twain things.

it DOES attract the mentally insecure and inept.


Edit: People in a mental institution are often happy without the assistance of medication, if only to have someone there with them who agrees with everything they say.

Sure, but so do all subcultures.

Do we really want to get into a pissing contest over which subculture or lifestyle on SL might contain the highest number of truly mentally ill individuals?

Actually I'm sorry for my comment. The thread has addled my brains to the extent that I am unable to recognise irony.

I agreed with you up until that point.



I stated I didn't want to do that with this.



Then followed it up with.



Your response was.



Here you left the thread and did not respond to my thread related content. Which was followed by and ended up with this after more posts from me, after I responded to your non-thread related posts.



So where was your on topic response to my last quote from me?

There were other parts to our conversation, but that seems to be the backbone. Way back to start with, I say, "I dont want to do anything about this". In response to your initial question of, "So how do you suggest that be dealt with?. Obviously, and back on topic, I dont want to do anything about Goreans as I stated I believe it is their right to experiment in fantasy. So you have to ask yourself, why are you arguing again?

Edit to say, if you want me to actually read any response Hiro, IM it to me, as Im going to bed and wont search through all these posts tomorow.

Right - the original posting was saying that Gorean women are chronically depressed, to which mine was a response. You take things full circle by saying happiness is a symptom of depression.

Ok.

I despise Gor because of what I've seen it lead to happen to people I care for very much.

But the same can be said of SL. Wretched hive of scum and villainy, we are.

No, I'm saying that depressed people when communing with people who are like them usually feel validated. Many women who enter Gor do so out of need for validation; being told what they are and what they are for. The community gives them that, thus staying the depression by giving them identity they didn't find for themselves.

I'm going to thankfully leave this thread now.

But what I will say before I go is that it represents a very unpleasant tendency I have noticed in these forums lately and in sl as a whole, to attack a section of the community. We've had it with the furries, now we are getting it with the Goreans. Who is next. Dark-skinned avatars?

Uninformed prejudice is one of the most destructive and least attractive of the human characteristics. I think before we congratulate ourselves on thinking how superior we are to some group or other, we should consider that if we succeeded in getting rid of everybody who was 'below' us - we would end up on the bottom of the pile!

Not only does Gor attract depressed women, it attracts depressed or low self-esteemed men.

This is how Gor online has worked for as far as I've known. The Masters in Gor often does not have much more self esteem etc than their girls they get, infact this is one reason for this attraction.

This type of attraction is bad in a Domination and submission type relationship (of which Gor is one minor sub-lifestyle RL).

This is why most D/s people avoid Gor, and advocate against Gor. Gor in SL is not much more different than the Gor on IRC. The same type of people (low self-esteemed men + highly depressed woemn), still populate both areas. The reason why this happens, I believe is the ease at which a Gorean Dom can accuire a slave. There is no foundations of D/s honored (Trust, Respect and mututal understanding).

It's true there are some random people who join Gor, who never heard of the LS before and were curious or just joined for fun. But the majority of the hardcore people and those who remain to this day, are the same type that lived in IRC. They have the same decline.

Gor as based on the books, as practiced loosely on IRC and SL, can never bring about a true trusting D/s relationship, as by definition Gorean relationships are based on fear rather than trust.

Exceptionally well said. I couldn't agree more. You deserve a promotion in whatever job you do

Uninformed prejudice is, indeed, as you say.

We're informed.

I want to have puppies with you now.

A Rape in Cyberspace Julian Dibbell (you might have to press refresh)
Cyberspace and the Technological Real Michelle Kendrick

Funny, that's one of Circe's favorite things to say about SL.

Ughh that is one case, that does mean that it does not logically follow. What you are saying in logic terms is

1) war exist
2) becaue of war, war video games were made
3)thus since war exist, and war video games are made, war video games cause war

because some psycho in jerkwater Europe because he was a rapist, doest mean I am locked in some house against my will. I dont think you read the rest of my post, people are responsible for their own actions, this guy as obviousley nuts.

Much improved tone!

Any Gor sim I've ever been to has expressly stated no children and no child avs. I've personally never seen a kid av in a Gor sim.

If you wanna, look me up in game. We can explore some of the sims and compare notes.

Her question was about the world of Gor. In the world of SL, there are children hiding in adult avatar's doing all sorts of dirty deeds, cause they are not carded when they enter the world.

In the Gor world, I can only remember of a few instances where Gorean girls were taken sexually below the age of 15 (for sexual reasons that is). Once case was in Trovoldsland, where a young girl was to be force enslaved if her brother was defeated in a hand-to-hand combat with a champion, but forturnatly for her, the protagonist appeared right there and stood for the brother. There are bred Gorean female slaves, bred as a slave. But they are often not touched till 17 (??). But there were mentions of some cases in Turia where men went for these young ones.

Also some Gorean females were raised in seclusion, out of sight of men, they were never shown men, this is an exotic type of slave. On the eve of their 17th birthday they are thrown among male slave as a group rape. The books say many of these girls go mad, or kill themsleves after. And then it states that those who come out are the best sexual slaves etc.. etc..

Most of the books are pure BS IMHO.