Yay for discrimination in SL! \o/

Did someone say something?


See how easy that works? I mean I've been using the ignore feature on him since his withering display of tact, grace, open-mindedness, and lets not forget 'logic' in the platform thread.

Just another fresh born person whom thinks they know everything with in three days of logging in and refuses to listen to anyone else's view. Very likely be a distant memory in a few more months, not worth fretting over.

Grace, that sounds like a pretty bad method for moderation. If you want people to agree to conform with your rules before entering your sim, you may want to concider just turning it off from the public view and make it invite only.

Its an Estate menu checkbox away.

What conern is it to anyone but goreans how well they follow the books or how well they actually RP as goreans?

In the case above, if they provide you with a non-RPer title and allow you in the area, then acting out abusive, misogynistic behavior towards you should be reported when it crosses the line. Similarly if they do not make the RP situation clear and allow visitors, who are subsequently treated in this manner.

This doesn't take away from their ability to determine how you should look to engage with them in their PRIVATE land. Banning you from their PRIVATE land is not abuse. Two different issues.

Sounds like a good desription of that comments author. SL is an RPG.

Er, that's hardly a reason to stop, is it? That people might grief you?

Ordinal.. people do the same thing to fur sims..and they don't have that rule.

the rule doesn't seem to start or stop it.

Which makes it even less of a reason to stop....

Incorrect. It is perfectly valid advice.

You are cutting yourself off from a world of valuable information if you insist that nothing told to you is 'negative.'

This is purely an opinion, though. Many places choose not to ban people or create invite only situations. They just remove the offenders as they present themselves. Your stance is one about HOW they choose to enact the policy, not whether the policy is valid or not. This is a fine suggestion, but should they choose not to use it, they remain able to do it the way they have chosen.

Much of the same can be said about your views, but I won't be saying it.

By the way, when you have been wearing those attachments as long as me, they are kind of a second skin.

"...look how she was dressed."

The point I was making was that this "Change your appearance or leave" mentality can't work always. What if they tell me to change my skin colour because there's no black people in gor? (there are, but they're usually treated less than animals in the books) And this is on a notecard in the entrance.

Not that they do it, but the idea i'm trying to make here is that owning the land does not give you the absolute right to say what is allowed in the sim.

You are a very smart person.

I've see this thread has turned into petty insults from the side of the goreans. I'll admit I now have much less respect for goreans if this is the way they wish to talk to other people and behave, then nowonder threads like this are made. I tried to offer some advice to help both sides come out nicely, that's been completely ignored and it's gone back to "If you don't like it, F*** off" comments.

If this is how the goreans wish to present themselves in public, then just leave them be, they aren't worth the hassle, even just for a visit. I personally don't want to be around such ill-mannered people.

I know I shouldn't judge a whole group by a few people, but so many people on the gorean side of the argument are just making petty, insulting and flamebaiting comments.

Certainly, they may disagree. That's my point; a right is something that should be universial, even if we disagree with how it is done. Which is exactly what's been said here all along.

School would have been so much easier if only professors took that position.

Might actually give people less of a reason to do so, Ord. In fact, this post would probably not exist if such a rule wasn't in place.

When did he become my professor?

Or they could have all teleports into the sim start out in a box which clearly spells out the rules and then expect people to, I don't know, act like reasonable adults.

If we were all reasonable, we wouldn't be in a moment of strife.

Thats about as useless as giving someone a notecard on login.

If you really care about moderating your sim access and behavior, invite only is your only real answer.

So whom is arguing they don't have the right? They have the 'right' what doesn't follow (as has been said repeatedly) is that the action is right. Two separate issues, Foo's and other's opinion of the Gor sims being ill-handled while still within the rights provided landowners, is still a valid opinion.

My personal view is if they allow guests and provide a Non-RP tagger, which is worn it shouldn't matter one wit what the guest wearing said tag has as to AV choice. They are _Non-RPers_ after all, to do otherwise is a form (in my view) of discrimination, not racial, but on the same level as your 'good looking people only club' example put forth earlier in the thread (page 3 I think it was). Not the most extreme kind of discrimination, but discrimination none the less.

That said, they are as you point out, and no one that I can see is arguing the point with you, they are still perfectly within their rights to exclude anyone they wish without so much as a 'by your grace lord Phil.' Still doesn't make it right in my view, just that I'm that much less likely to go to a Gor sim even if just to admire a build or fix a script/vendor.

They've got that right, distasteful as it may be.

Frankly I'm not interested in why such people choose to do so. The fact that idiots are planting bombs because they feel hard done by (or for whatever reason) is immaterial to whether it is right to stop doing something or not. I certainly don't pay any attention to the infantile squallings of people who grief groups that I am in.

You misunderstood.

If rules are made quite clear on entering and you are simply expected to follow them or leave, I don't see that that's useless. Most people aren't interested in causing trouble or actively breaking rules. You simply have to have a way of dealing with the few who are.

It also has the benefit of treating visitors like grown-ups who can read, rather than potential sim terrorists.