Why so many RUDE people?
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Earl Zabibha
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12-06-2006 07:46
From: Sandra Nolan I too have a high prim home and have taken great pride in building it, I also take it as a compliment when people see it and come visit or explore. I have had occasions where I've banned someone, but after lets say 2 or 3 weeks I remove the ban, I figure one of 3 things will happen: 1. they forget where the property is, 2. They mature in their SL experiences and begin to understand the error of their ways or 3. They were noobs who just wanted to see what it was about and dont log in anymore. I dont like to ban or restrict the land for two reasons. I have neighbors and while we don't have to be friends I don't want to make it difficult for them to travel across the sim as I own quite a bit of property all over a PG sim and really no matter how much I don't get along with them, I'm not there to grief them and two..the one thing that attracted me to SL was all the wonderful creations and the fact that I could explore at will, I simply feel I should return the favor and pay it forward. I don't really care what they do on my property while I'm offline as long as they clean up after themselves. If they don't I simply return their objects and maybe IM them with a piece of advice or explanation as to the return (only sometimes) and if they behave in appropriately on my land while I'm present well, I ask them to stop or eject them. Since it's a PG sim I don't have sex balls out and about to get all indignant over when someone uses them. As a new person back in the day I did my fair share of trespassing and in so doing discovered some wonderful creations. I just want the people passing through my SL corner of the world to enjoy their experince. And yes, I am an alt thats now a main...I simply couldn't resist having a facsimile of my real name  and I've been "living" SL for nearly 3 years. Asking someone to remove something that offends them is bs and just controling, I am Police in RL and at times I wear uniform in SL and hate it when someone stupid tells me to take off gun, or uniform. I was in a place the other day and was in uniform and I was asked to change my clothes that i could offend others, and here is this dude buck naked juming about like a moron and had a Long Johnson poking out a few feet and they ask me to no affend someone. it just makes you scratch your heads how stupid others can be. I am use to STUPID questions/atatements in RL but wow they run wild in here a GAME!!! |
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Foo Spark
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Join date: 8 Nov 2006
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12-06-2006 12:08
From: Earl Zabibha I was in a place the other day and was in uniform and I was asked to change my clothes that i could offend others, and here is this dude buck naked juming about like a moron and had a Long Johnson poking out a few feet and they ask me to no affend someone. Maybe you should go somewhere else, then -- anywhere that people think weapons are more offensive than penises doesn't sound like a good place for you. However, you may find there are a lot of such places. |
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Latonia Lambert
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12-06-2006 13:17
I was talking to a very new av today. She was very nice and polite but was puzzled by the Welcome Area. Was it really for new residents or old residents showing off their latest outfit or bling, she asked. No-one answered her questions and she was pretty much ignored.
Is that really what the WA should be? I would like to see it for new residents and mentors, greeters only.
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Whimsycallie Pegler
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12-06-2006 13:23
Orientation Island is for new members and mentors only. I think by the time they get welcoming area it is nice if they can be exposed to bigger group of people. Lately though all those kind of places are kind of wild and lawless like the wild west. Maybe they should be all western themed  |
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Lilliput Boshops
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12-06-2006 15:12
From: Whimsycallie Pegler Orientation Island is for new members and mentors only. I think by the time they get welcoming area it is nice if they can be exposed to bigger group of people. Lately though all those kind of places are kind of wild and lawless like the wild west. Maybe they should be all western themed I confess it is entertaining to watch, in the "unable to look away" sense, sort of like a train wreck, but I think the analogy falls down. It's isn't "wild" so much as adolescent. I think the bigger problem is that the Welcome Areas don't represent SL at all, and, therefore, they create the wrong first impression for new people. In fact, I would even argue that the Welcome Areas, in their current state, contribute to the problem by presenting this behavior as "normal." New residents see this and then journey off into SL, thinking that the first thing they are supposed to do is find tools to wreak havoc. My experience in SL, generally speaking, has been that people are kind, generous and helpful. There are a few remarkable masochists...er...I mean Welcome Area Regulars who represent this model at the WA, but they are pretty much awash in a sea of giant phalluses. My personal opinon is that the Welcome Areas should be straightened out, as a matter of principle, to show SL as it really is. But then, I also believe in the Head Start program, so I'm biased. |
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Ordinal Malaprop
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12-06-2006 16:11
From: Foo Spark Maybe you should go somewhere else, then -- anywhere that people think weapons are more offensive than penises doesn't sound like a good place for you. However, you may find there are a lot of such places. Seriously, I'd say in general that weapons are more offensive than penises. Ideally nobody should stick either in anyone's face without consent. There's also the issue that in SL, waving a penis about often indicates that a weapon will be waved about in the future... and there's a whole seam of metaphor and feminist critique just waiting there.
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Thunderclap Morgridge
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12-06-2006 18:29
From: Cottonteil Muromachi Disturbing and scaring off newbies is one of the more entertaining activities in SL for some. It pleases the same group of people that like to put petrol on kittens and light them up. Show me one of those and it will give me great pleasure to throw gas on them and light them up.
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Morwen Bunin
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12-06-2006 23:35
From: Ordinal Malaprop Seriously, I'd say in general that weapons are more offensive than penises.
Ideally nobody should stick either in anyone's face without consent. There's also the issue that in SL, waving a penis about often indicates that a weapon will be waved about in the future... and there's a whole seam of metaphor and feminist critique just waiting there. No feminst critique from here... I agree. Weapons are more offensive the penises in general. After all, the one is a normal body part meant for reproduction with the pleasure belong to that, while the other is meant to kill or at least to cause fear.... (Mind you, generally spoken.... I can think of exceptions too) Morwen. |
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Morwen Bunin
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12-06-2006 23:48
From: Ordinal Malaprop Seriously, I'd say in general that weapons are more offensive than penises.
No feminist remarks from my side. I agree. And well, over here in The Netherlands there is no law that males forbid to have a penis... same cannot be said about weapons *winks* Morwen. |
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bilbo99 Emu
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12-07-2006 00:51
From: Ordinal Malaprop Seriously, I'd say in general that weapons are more offensive than penises.
Ideally nobody should stick either in anyone's face without consent. LOL I'm sorry I laughed .. but that was very good Ordinal .. and worth repeating. |
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Earl Zabibha
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12-08-2006 06:50
your saying that someone that has a gun on his hip is more offensive then someone walking around with a penis poking out?
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Janka Werribee
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12-08-2006 07:24
Yes, some people actually think that showing off things used to kill people is more offensive than showing off things used for sex. OMG! Go figure!
Me? I'm in the camp that does not worry about either, as long as the aforementioned sticking without consent does not happen.
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Earl Zabibha
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12-08-2006 13:02
So if SL is a mix of all from around world why push your beliefs of on others IE.. those carrying weapons (not shooting or attacking others)? I see those walking around naked or with a penis attached and I don’t ban them or tell them to put clothes on.
I guess I should remember that I live in the U.S. where about everyone has 1 or more weapons in there home unlike the rest of the world. As a card carrying NRA member and even a police officer, I have NO problem with a persons wish to posses and own weapons if done legally. Here a conceal carry of a weapon is legal with a permit but flashing your genitals is illegal in public and I find that morally wrong and offensive. I don’t know how it is in the rest of the world.
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Joseph Worthington
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12-09-2006 17:44
From: Earl Zabibha So if SL is a mix of all from around world why push your beliefs of on others IE.. those carrying weapons (not shooting or attacking others)? I see those walking around naked or with a penis attached and I don’t ban them or tell them to put clothes on.
I guess I should remember that I live in the U.S. where about everyone has 1 or more weapons in there home unlike the rest of the world. As a card carrying NRA member and even a police officer, I have NO problem with a persons wish to posses and own weapons if done legally. Here a conceal carry of a weapon is legal with a permit but flashing your genitals is illegal in public and I find that morally wrong and offensive. I don’t know how it is in the rest of the world. Here in Illinois we don't have carry permits at all. Concealed or otherwise. And as SL is a mix from all over he world, is it fair to push your personal beliefs about it being ok to carry a weapon on other people? As for the nudity issue, there are several places in the world where public beaches are clothing optional, and I believe even a few nude beaches right here in America. Not to mention nudist colonies and what have you. Never heard of a gunman's colony though. But either way, I'm getting off on a tangent. When I see people in SL walking around with weapons, no matter the type, I leave them be. If they want to walk around with their weapons in public, fine by me. In my home or place of business however? Nope. Weapons have to go or you do. Earl, are you really getting complaints while walking thru public areas while geared up, or is it when your near people's homes and nightclubs and businesses and such? |
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Kitty Barnett
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12-09-2006 18:53
From: Earl Zabibha So if SL is a mix of all from around world why push your beliefs of on others IE.. those carrying weapons (not shooting or attacking others)? I see those walking around naked or with a penis attached and I don’t ban them or tell them to put clothes on. I can't remember the last time someone's genitals sent me into orbit or caged me  . I'm not going to respond favourably to either someone pointing a weapon at me or someone walking around "primmed", but I'm not going to go out of my way to chastize them either. |
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Morwen Bunin
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12-10-2006 01:30
From: Janka Werribee Yes, some people actually think that showing off things used to kill people is more offensive than showing off things used for sex. OMG! Go figure!
Add to that, to a unwanted shown penis I have a good change of defending myself if needed (a good aimed kick with my feet or knee does a lot), to a weapon I am close to defensless. Morwen. |
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Morwen Bunin
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12-10-2006 01:39
General thought about all the talk about policemen, uniforms and weapons....
My bother in law is a police-officer. He loves his job, because it is 90% about helping people. His uniform has no more value to him that this shows his job and for him it is the same as an overall to construction-worker. He cannot wait to change back to "normal" clothes after work.
His dislike his weapon, but he realizes he may need it when dangerous situations occur. But rather he would leave the gun at the office when he dresses there.
That is what in my opinion an healthy view... you do such a job because of the job, not because an uniform or a weapon comes along with it. Now I don't say the police-men here are not like that, but you surely get that idea when you read who much value their uniform or weapons have to them.
Morwen
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Yngwie Krogstad
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12-10-2006 04:25
Regarding the debate over weapons in SL, here's more to think about:
If you have a weapon in RL, and someone sees it in a holster on your hip, everyone knows it's in that holster. Sure you can pull it out, but as long as it is holstered, it's not in your hand. Even if they can't see the holster, it's still not in your hand.
On Friday, there were some people in our store who clearly had gguns in holsters in our store. At least that's what they wanted you to believe. If you had been there and turned on the ability to view all scripts (which I did), you would have discovered that the guns you saw on their hips were actually scripted semi-automatic machine guns, one in each hand and ready to be used.
When I politely asked that they put the weapons away (which is absolutely my right, as my SL wife and I own the land the store is on), I was answered with a hearty "Fuck you!" and immediately attacked. Including being spammed with some extremely offensive pictures; this was more than bullets and/or cages flying around. Even after the individuals in question were banned from our property, they hung around outside our parcel unsuccessfully attempting to fire RPG's into our property.
Those who choose to bring weapons and offensive attitudes into our store are the problem, not the weapons themselves. Any responsible weapons owner in my opinion, would remove their weapons when asked to. Those who react to such a request violently shouldn't even have weapons in the first place!
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Earl Zabibha
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12-11-2006 05:39
From: Kitty Barnett I can't remember the last time someone's genitals sent me into orbit or caged me . HHAHAHA Funny |
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Gummi Richthofen
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12-11-2006 05:53
From: Joseph Worthington Here in Illinois we don't have carry permits at all. Concealed or otherwise. And as SL is a mix from all over he world, is it fair to push your personal beliefs about it being ok to carry a weapon on other people? Here in England we don't see weapons from one year to the next. If I encounter weapons in SL I simply tell the owner that weapons make me nervous, having been shot at in RL. if they still keep them around after that, I walk away. it's their loss. Some try to tell me I "shouldn't be like that", which I view as a handy way of finding out early, how stupid they are. |
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Banking Laws
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12-11-2006 06:04
From: Earl Zabibha I am Police in RL and at times I wear uniform in SL and hate it when someone stupid tells me to take off gun, or uniform. HAHA good joke From: Earl Zabibha I was in a place the other day and was in uniform and I was asked to change my clothes that i could offend others, Good response to you having guns where they are not wanted
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Yiffy Yaffle
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12-11-2006 06:12
From: Kitty Barnett I can't remember the last time someone's genitals sent me into orbit or caged me . It is posible but yea, it hasn't happened yet.  |
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Molly MacKay
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12-11-2006 06:41
From: Kitty Barnett I can't remember the last time someone's genitals sent me into orbit Oh yeah? Did you already forgot the seventh heaven?  |
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Earl Zabibha
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12-12-2006 10:37
QUOTE=Kitty Barnett]I can't remember the last time someone's genitals sent me into orbit or caged me . [/QUOTE] ok ok your right, |
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Earl Zabibha
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12-12-2006 10:42
From: Banking Laws Quote:
Originally Posted by Earl Zabibha
I am Police in RL and at times I wear uniform in SL and hate it when someone stupid tells me to take off gun, or uniform.
HAHA good joke
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Originally Posted by Earl Zabibha
I was in a place the other day and was in uniform and I was asked to change my clothes that i could offend others,
Good response to you having guns where they are not wanted
Know what your talking about befor you TROLL STUPID |
