Why so many RUDE people?

Not much, a small building with a chimney and some large industrial pipes. On Tuesday I also put in some more interior decor. Why do you ask?

A while back, I put a touch script in all of my uhm.. non-PG.. furniture which either IMs me when I'm online, or goes to email when I'm offline.

Every other few days, I come back to a dozen notices that someone had a good time at my house, not surprisingly always when I'm offline. Leaving them a little IM asking if they had fun while I was logged off usually results in them staying clear from then on out .

As to why I care... I don't like logging back on and noticing that all the couch poseballs are suddenly showing (little personal pet-peeve, I always hide them cause I think they're unsightly), that the ones on the bed are still rezzed. I know it's silly but it doesn't leave me with a nice feeling knowing someone just felt like they could do whatever they wanted just because noone's around.
That and the fact that I'm not too fond of it when they relog all naked when I'm online and in the house . (They're always very apologetic then though )

When I'm actually around, I'm generally nice and helpful to anyone, except the ones who insist on make their way past the doors, don't answer and decide to take a look around with me standing right there.

A friend of mine once scripted a poseball bed that uses a toggle switch to turn it on and off. If i'ts off, only the owner can use the pose balls. If it's on, then anyone can. While it's off it will send a IM to you telling you who just used it, then it ejects them from the seat sending them a meter back with a warning. I duno if he still sells it, but if i was to modify it i would make it send them to <0,0,0> or something to get rid of them. ;p

I was poking around the other night and ended up at Reuters to see if any news was being made . On arrival, I see the place littered with plywood and a small group of avs (all born 1-2 days and unverified) swarming around someone who was trying to look aroung the sim.

The situation escalated and soon enough there was an all out gun fight inside the news bureau of Reuters - where everytime someone new would show up - they would be shot up

How did I escape the mischief? Strangely, one of the mischief makers must have thought I was OK because he asked his cohorts to leave me alone and I was able to just stand there and watch exactly what happens when little boys (or girls?) get access to too much time on very powerful computers Seriously though, I have been in Sl for 2 months and have never seen a gun (see, I am always shopping or decorating ) so while I know this may have been a strange reaction, I was curious as to what they could actually "do" to you...

Basically nothing - at least on this sim. Stranger still, one of the guys IMd me the next nigh and invited me to a sandbox to watch him build his new combat chopper

Was curious if it's the decor that attracts a certain type of person. Our houses tend to be medium sized and decorated for that homey, familiar, family style feel. I wonder if it's the visual sense of security that attracts so many people that wish to disturb it. I mean...if you were really looking to annoy, do you go after the people with the large homesteads, or the ones living in the small cottages?

The other rant is when you are just flying over a plot of land in a chopper, way up out of the way thinking nothing of it checking out others places and some SOB shoots you out of your chopper or airplane and you get a BS im about not flying over his lot, or you just get a from them. Is this not a vilation of the TOS? is there a shield that could protect you and your chopper/plane I am tired of having it returned and the script is all jacked up!


or when you confront them after they do this and you get a shot to the face with a gun or he orbs you/ just a little chickedsh!t thing to do.

Well..Getting back to the point of this origional post..why so many rude people in SL? Or in the WA's in particular? I dunno. I'm one of them though. I will be blatently honest and tell you right off hand. Some days. I just get the urge to be mean. and what better place to do that then the WA where you have 4 very distinct types of residents. the New ones, (Clueless and generally uncoordinated..I help these usually by the way) The Griefers(they make this thier Second life..Hangin out in the WA and making it as unwelcoming as inhumanly possible with nearly no fear of Linden reprisals,)The Sheep. (those people who come to the WA genuinly thinking that they can help and make others SL experience as wonderfull as thier fragmented memories have mistakenly led them to believe thier first few day were) And the Predators.(Generally intelligent people who are mostly jaded and cynical about Life, love and SL in general and out of sheer boredom or malicious intent(Me perhaps) Come to the WA and proceed to argue,fight with,debate,hang out with, bait the griefers, all of the above) The point is. that the Wa's of the SL world have become like the new SL sandboxes, without the lovely scripts and things that go boom. Basically lawless, unfriendly,jaded,angry,hatefull and basically very "UN-Welcome" areas.

there are a few options though. One. Restrict use of the WA's to New Residents(Good luck with that, you can make an alt in all of 3 seconds)
Two. Linden oversight of the mess they themselves made and now perpetuate through indiffrence,(Also fat change..they got better things to do like hang out with the makers of Copybot and laugh at these posts they never even take seriously)
Three. Well, perhaps the Good, decent, caring people that are still in SL could make a concerted effort to do more for thier fellow residents then just hide on thier private islands and complain about the state of things in SL. Nothing gets a Lindens attention like Money. Or the lack thereof. If you get my drift. Meh. My two cents and then some.

Flame on.

ugh the dreaded red ban lines... I am seeing more and more of these... would not just banning the persone work better then banning everyone? the Ban Lines are real ugly and as I am looking to buy land these lines are whats keeping me from buying your land... when on 1, 2 or all 4 sides of you you have ban lines..

I seriously think they should make an "Over 40" grid for those of us that age or older. They have a teen and a main grid, but nothing for us oldies but definately goodies!

Having met the good, the bad and of course, the ugly in SL it leaves me with a hopeless feeling of actually thinking there can be peace in the real world when there is so much chaos and hate in SL.

But for now I would love to see my dream of a new grid, one that myself and others can go to for peace and serenity and hopefully leave the drama and nonsense behind!

If there are any older SL'ers in game drop by and say 'hello'....I'd love to meet you!

I agree SeXXXy. I'm still fairly new, but have run into a lot of unsavory people. Would be nice to know that after awhile you could graduate to another grid that are SLers with a born on date over a year old with payment info on file.

Might be a nice way for LL to split up the current overload they are seeing, and prevent a new sign up surge from effecting paying customers as much as it is.

I wish I would (at the young age of 33) share your belief that once people turn 40 they suddenly all stop being jerks... It is my experience from virtual worlds that more often than you care to think, the "immature teens" turn out to be 30-something fathers of two children with full-time jobs and all.

I have a bedouin tent on my land in Uli so no locckable doors, which is usually fine as Uli is PG and I don't have anything of a sexual nature in the tent.

Newbies often land on my plot which is usually ok, we have a chat, I give them some landmarks for freebie places and they go on their way.

However, a couple of days ago this female av turned up, barely responding to me and subsequently flew off. She then comes back later in the evening and declares that she likes my tent and will stay in it for the night, sitting herself down on the rug. I explain it is my home and she was not invited to stay which had no effect at all. In the end I took up my tent, rug, actually anything she could sit on, and banned her. I have had this land for over 2 years and this is only the second time I have had to ban someone but I get the feeling it won't be the last.

I think we will be getting more griefing etc, the more unverified residents who join. I don't know the answer but LL had better do something and fast. I don't want to put security around my land, but I could maybe res my bulldog and let him guard it lol.

Sorry if I sound a little bit cynical,but while we're at it,why not having a grid for left-handed people,one for the color-blind,oh another for cat allergics,etc... with everything that comes next into your mind? That would be endless!

Seriously,we already have teens cheating the Main grid signup,that's not a secret:then,what makes you really think they'll never find a way to your "Over 40" grid too? With the current non-accountability policies,how can you be really sure?

So what is the point of tearing apart a community of good honest people who just want to hang around with friends regardless of their different age,race,sex,religion/beliefs or sexual orientation for the delight of a minority of self-centered jerks and their personal hate/attention/mischief agendas?

That would mean they finally succeed and that we giving them what they really want,n'est-ce pas mon amie?

I can understand not wanting visitors particularly if you're working or similar - but I don't get the ban lines at all...what are people afraid others will do to their land?

If you have autoreturn on, you should be fine...right? I guess I would ban individuals (they can't sit in your tent if you ban them) rather than put up ban lines). However, if I lived in a high traffic area like you seem to, perhaps I would feel very differently

Good point, but I did notice that it is usualy the Newbies that will pop in and then take off all clothes and then start humping you leg like a dog... but these are useualy younger adaults, the ones that been here for a while 75% are calm and can be nice but then the other 25% are rude bitter aSSholes that have no life other than SL... and are about the Rudiest ones here.

Hey SeXXXy - not so much of the "oldies" if you don't mind.

I hate ban lines. I bought land and put a house on it to join a community. I'm bordered on two sides by the damned things and bump into them in all directions when I try to fly round the neighbourhood.
I'd like to meet the neighbours. Some I have .. well two actually .. in the entire sim LOL
As for humping my leg .. wouldn't they need pose balls for that?

In other areas I often can walk freely into someone's unoccupied home. It's exciting and motivating to see what hard work others have put in.

Ban lines are more than anti-social. They are intimidating, inconvenient and more rude than any visitors I've had to Bagg End

Absolutely!! IRL I work at a college and some of the students are just as much pleasurable company as some staff I can think of!

What is wrong with us that are older then 40?

(I am 41, but I don't need or want a grid for older then 40 btw)


Morwen

Well, I believe that almost anyone here has some rudeness tales to tell, so I'm not that special, but being a new resident (less than one month old) I feel like I have to share my 2 cents

I'm an escort at the KitKat II club. Any consideration on my job left aside, yesterday I got back from work and my girlfriend was at home and we decided to go somewhere and have fun. We picked the Sphynx Jazz Club, since it was a new place for both of us.

We got there, liked the club, so we started dancing. After a few the club owner sent me a private message, asking if I could change my active title.

Now you must know that getting back from work I didn't change my "KitKat Escort" title into something else. Did not think about it and up to now I don't think it's a big deal.

I said to the club owner that it was fine with me, but I also asked why I had to do that. He said me that a couple people complained about me being there.

I was wearing something that looked like a business attire, with full lenght pants and a jacket, with an updo hairstyle. Looking at me, you could have mistaken me for just another businesswoman, nothing more nothing less.

I wasn't working while at that club, nor I did approach anyone. I was just dancing with my girlfriend and we weren't using chat, but IMs to talk one with the other. Yet some people complained about me because I was "wearing" an escort title.

The club owner has been kind, nothing to say against him. However I didn't feel good about what happened there.

Still had a great evening...

I take it as a compliment that people want to go inside my cottage. It's a nice high-prim building and they're probably curious, and they're usually apologetic when I explain that this is my home.

Anyway, I recently had a conversation like this in my own home:

Me: Hello
Griefer: GET THE HELL OUT OF MY HOUSE NOW
Griefer: fatty

That was my first ejection and banning, after about a month of land ownership. I found amusement watching him try to return.

And another nitwit with a strap-on dropped on my dock while I was working. He was ejected before he finished typing whatever witty comment he was preparing.

I occasionally find interior doors closed that I had left open, so I know I have visitors when I'm not around. I really don't mind. And I've found that it's easy to get through ban lines simply by flying fast and trying a few times if it fails the first time, so they don't even work.

Samantha, a RL story:
I took a girlfriend on my motorcycle to a country pub some years back. The barman asked me to remove my jacket. It wasn't even black leather. It was a flying jacket like the Spitfire pilots wore. I took it off and dropped it by my feet. He then served us drinks. Crazy.
Noticed he didn't ask my girlfriend to remove her black leather jacket .. shame .. would have been a lot more amusing .. she'd have ripped his head off LOL

I too have a high prim home and have taken great pride in building it, I also take it as a compliment when people see it and come visit or explore.

I have had occasions where I've banned someone, but after lets say 2 or 3 weeks I remove the ban, I figure one of 3 things will happen: 1. they forget where the property is, 2. They mature in their SL experiences and begin to understand the error of their ways or 3. They were noobs who just wanted to see what it was about and dont log in anymore.

I dont like to ban or restrict the land for two reasons. I have neighbors and while we don't have to be friends I don't want to make it difficult for them to travel across the sim as I own quite a bit of property all over a PG sim and really no matter how much I don't get along with them, I'm not there to grief them and two..the one thing that attracted me to SL was all the wonderful creations and the fact that I could explore at will, I simply feel I should return the favor and pay it forward. I don't really care what they do on my property while I'm offline as long as they clean up after themselves. If they don't I simply return their objects and maybe IM them with a piece of advice or explanation as to the return (only sometimes) and if they behave in appropriately on my land while I'm present well, I ask them to stop or eject them. Since it's a PG sim I don't have sex balls out and about to get all indignant over when someone uses them.

As a new person back in the day I did my fair share of trespassing and in so doing discovered some wonderful creations. I just want the people passing through my SL corner of the world to enjoy their experince.

And yes, I am an alt thats now a main...I simply couldn't resist having a facsimile of my real name and I've been "living" SL for nearly 3 years.

"Someone complained" is an old excuse . You can't discount that someone really did complain, but half the time it's done to give the request a more legitimate sound as opposed to "I don't like it".

It's a common courtesy to take your title off wherever you go though, you can't feel troubled about getting called on it when it was up to you to realize you still had it on and change it. An active title is as much an "on duty" sign as a taxi driver driving around with his/her light still on is.

If you can't see what the problem is, imagine how you or anyone working for your club, or the owner would feel when another club's escort decides to visit, but never takes her title off. She doesn't need to be actively solliciting, or want to for that matter, her title will tell everyone around who can read.

Well Kitty, thanks for your input. I'm pretty new to SL, so I guess I may be somewhat naive when it comes to some things going on inworld.

I always try to wear the correct group tag (or no tag at all), when I walk around. Also I would never, ever, go to a club offering escorting services, wearing the tag of a... competitor

I understand that I should take off my escort tag whenever I'm at a place where escorting is not contemplated/allowed/tolerated. The taxi analogy is a good one. Well, I don't have names and tags printed on screen, since I find them unappealing. That doesn't help me noticing that I'm wearing a tag or the wrong tag, but I understand it's my fault anyways.

Oh well, live and learn.