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Why so many RUDE people?

Earl Zabibha
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Join date: 22 Aug 2006
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10-03-2006 08:43
I know it can’t be just me but has anyone else noticed that you run across a lot of @$$holes running around the welcome lands? I am talking about the people that have been on SL for a while, not the newbes!! We were all new at one time...

I have been on SL before many years ago and now I am back after a long stint away, and I like to meet the and greet the new comers to SL and I find a lot of very rude elders that will not help the new people or answer questions for them. I have see them tell them to go away and leave them alone they do not want to talk or help. Now why would they hang out in these areas if they don’t want to help out?

I run around in a cop uniform and greet all I can and hand out items (have over 5K+ items in inventory) to help them get started like clothes, jewelry, autos, etc. and have even given out some $$$. And offer guide services for free around diff lands to show them the ropes. (Unlike the other police ones you see around here that want to charge for all services)

At times I catch grief from some elders because I give away items thinking that it is going to make the new comers start asking for stuff for free from others.. Granted I have seen some running around asking for money from others, and it’s not always the new people.

Just venting
Michelle Thurston
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10-03-2006 09:02
Oh, don't give them money, it'll only make them dependant.

I've always wondered this myself, and was going to post a thread but never got around to it before the whole thing with the forum but: What keeps YOU (not you personally, OP) going back to the welcome area after your first couple days? There are a lot of newbies in the welcome areas, and a LOT of non-newbies, and there's no way they're ALL working Newbie Support. So, what's the deal? My hypothesis: showing off ones av to the uninitiated masses to make that all-important early first impression (they don't know what else to expect, right? Anything that isn't the purple t-shirt is going to be amazing, and they might as well be amazed at YOU, right?)
Earl Zabibha
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Join date: 22 Aug 2006
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10-03-2006 09:43
From: Michelle Thurston
Oh, don't give them money, it'll only make them dependant.



HAHAH like a lost dog! the one you fed one time now he wont leave huh? HHAHAA
Jillian Callahan
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10-03-2006 09:51
From: Earl Zabibha
HAHAH like a lost dog! the one you fed one time now he wont leave huh? HHAHAA
It has merit. Folks are used to typical games where "game money" is readily available through some simple "griding" activity. SL isn't that sort of entertainment (note I'm avoiding saying it's nto a game, let's not go there) - the SL monitary system represents, at least to some degree, real effort of the part of people working to make SL into something fun. Giving new residents money only reinforces the idea that it is merely game money without real value - diminishing the value of the work folks have put into SL.
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Cottonteil Muromachi
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10-04-2006 02:56
From: Earl Zabibha
Now why would they hang out in these areas if they don’t want to help out?


Disturbing and scaring off newbies is one of the more entertaining activities in SL for some. It pleases the same group of people that like to put petrol on kittens and light them up.
Romantics Rejected
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Join date: 23 Aug 2006
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10-04-2006 03:00
They are breeding in strip clubs?
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Usagi Musashi
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10-04-2006 03:04
NOWAY LOL OMG there are so mnay rude and really bad newbies out there these days!.I don`t know what to think anymore
I had one use me to get away from a money tree i was watching while her/his alt picked money..........This is just getting too much........
Romantics Rejected
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10-04-2006 03:05
The worrying thing is, how do the idiots MANAGE to breed?
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Francesca Alva
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10-04-2006 03:09
From: Michelle Thurston
... Anything that isn't the purple t-shirt is going to be amazing...


I like the purple t-shirt
Romantics Rejected
More reject than romantic
Join date: 23 Aug 2006
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10-04-2006 03:11
I have no idea what the shirt in question is. I just read the title and decided to improve my meanial life by replying, which I've done.

I need new hobbies.
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Dillon Morenz
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10-04-2006 04:34
From: Earl Zabibha
I know it can’t be just me but has anyone else noticed that you run across a lot of @$$holes running around the welcome lands? I am talking about the people that have been on SL for a while, not the newbes!! We were all new at one time...

I have been on SL before many years ago and now I am back after a long stint away, and I like to meet the and greet the new comers to SL and I find a lot of very rude elders that will not help the new people or answer questions for them. I have see them tell them to go away and leave them alone they do not want to talk or help. Now why would they hang out in these areas if they don’t want to help out?


Plenty of established users frequent Welcome Areas because it keeps them in touch with people they met when they first arrived. (We all go our separate ways within a few days/weeks after all, but we still have the WA in common.) They're good neutral places to hang out, to catch up with the gossip, to bask in the nostalgia, to see what the latest trends are, to meet the occasional Linden, etc. For four weeks or so I found Waterhead to be a really friendly 'drop-in' place. I could (still can) bump into old friends, whilst occasionally helping out the new, and I enjoy that. (Not that I want to help out all the time.)

But then open registration occurred. Alt accounts, mafia fantasists and pubescents fascinated by ten metre genitals arrived in numbers that hadn't been witnessed before, and any trust that newbies really were newbies -- or even of adult age -- and capable of taking the world seriously went out the window. With that came suspicion and negativity from lots of established users. I'm not justifying this behaviour at all, but it almost seems like newbies have to prove that they're genuine, adult newcomers thesedays before many people will help. And it's not just the established users to blame for that (even though they should know better).
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Showdog Tiger
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Newbies, Money and Breeding Practices
10-04-2006 05:58
Dearly Darlings,

When I first got here two charming people, Shelaura Toomba and Lars Bismark helped me put my avatar together. Now that I've been here for a bit I realize the amount of Linden that went into my creation was substantial. I always try to help new folks in the same way I was helped.

I also donate money to The Shelter as well as the Second Life Support Lotto Group.
I cannot imagine anyone being angry with helping other people. Then again, I'm quite a bit older than most people here.

I made a point of with the exception of the premium membership not paying USD for anything. If I can't get commissions to pay for what I want..I just don't get it. I find that no matter what reality no one wants to work for what they get. There's no longer a strong work ethic.

That being said, The people I have met here have all been very smart, upstanding Second Life citizens who do not fit into the description I made above...so I truely have no clue as to what the problem really is. It does confound me.

Would making each avatar have gainful employment here work? I don't know. Getting rid of all stipends? I'd miss mine, but could make do with out it.

As for breeding in Second Life, you all know my philosophy:

Stupid people should not breed. I shall have to come up with a description of breeding here...byte by byte I suppose. I'd hate to have to fall back on the standard a-sexual reproduction description. I'll try to come up with something more interesting.

You all have a very lovely day...away from Second Life for a bit. After all it's update day. We all know what that means!

Mrs. Showdog Tiger
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Albion DeVaux
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Join date: 8 Aug 2006
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10-04-2006 06:56
From: Showdog Tiger
You all have a very lovely day...away from Second Life for a bit. After all it's update day. We all know what that means!


Ah yes, the distance. That's what it looks like.
Usagi Musashi
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10-04-2006 07:19
Shelaura Tomba and Lars Bismark are some very sweet peole on sl :)
Alice Katayama
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10-04-2006 07:42
I to spend some time at the welcome area, Sooner or later I get fed up and move on. I do meet a lot of great people there and help new players all I can. But there are a lot of fights and flame wars that would be better off taken somewhere private.

I too have found that giving out money results in people comming back again and again asking for more well over half the times that you do it.

I like meeting new people, and seeing the other people that return to the welcome areas, but it can get nasty quick.
Tuach Noh
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Join date: 2 Aug 2006
Posts: 79
10-04-2006 08:48
I think the begging mentality comes in part from other games where there's such a profound class difference between old-timers and noobs.

Sure, a noob can spend four boring hours hunting Unassuming Minor Fluffies in the hills around the Noob Zone to earn a few taffeta pieces (TP).

But while you, the level 2,000,000 Armor Plated Space Harrier of Doom, were walking through the Dread Forest on your way to meet your friend in the Noob Zone, you probably accidentally stepped on a Giant Slavering Fluffy that was carrying a gem worth a few bajillion TP. But you need a bajillion-zillion TP for your new Sword of Spifftacularity, so anything worth only a bajillion is barely worth the space in your inventory.

So, yeah, why not spread the TP around to the noobs? Poverty stinks, and a bit of well-placed TP can wipe it clean until they grow up and learn to do it themselves.

Of course, SL doesn't work anything like that. It's nearly as hard for someone who's been here for years to make money as someone who's been here for twenty minutes, and you don't get a discount on buying L$ due to your age in world. But old habits die hard.

Oh yeah, and the other reason for all the begging is laziness, sheer laziness. ;-)
Angelique LaFollette
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10-04-2006 18:05
From: Romantics Rejected
The worrying thing is, how do the idiots MANAGE to breed?


One assumes that the Idiots come in Both genders so mechanicly it's possible, One would think however that their personalities would make the most effective Birth control known to modern medical science.

It's a Mystery.

Angel.
Morwen Bunin
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Join date: 8 Dec 2005
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10-05-2006 06:02
I like to visit the Welcome area.

Some times only to sit/stand there and listen to the conversations of other people there.. or to read their profiles :P.

And yes, I like to help new people a bit. I remember how confusing my own first hours in SL were :).

And yet, there is no place as the Welcome Area where I muted so many people.... Indeed rude people and people who drool all over your avatar (and no, I don't mean here the people who make you a nice compliment :P)

Morwen.
squiz Clifton
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Join date: 1 Jun 2006
Posts: 123
10-07-2006 13:52
From: Michelle Thurston
Oh, don't give them money, it'll only make them dependant.

I've always wondered this myself, and was going to post a thread but never got around to it before the whole thing with the forum but: What keeps YOU (not you personally, OP) going back to the welcome area after your first couple days? There are a lot of newbies in the welcome areas, and a LOT of non-newbies, and there's no way they're ALL working Newbie Support. So, what's the deal? My hypothesis: showing off ones av to the uninitiated masses to make that all-important early first impression (they don't know what else to expect, right? Anything that isn't the purple t-shirt is going to be amazing, and they might as well be amazed at YOU, right?)



Hahaha you are so right it hurts. Most of the people in the welcome areas are long term users that either dont own land, or are there purely to show off a shiney new avi to the un-initiated masses. "Oooh wow look at me in my lovely suit and you in ur crappy tie-dye t-shirt".

They are the same kinda people that buy a mercedes not because its a nice car, but so they can use it as a way to look down on other people.
Earl Zabibha
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Join date: 22 Aug 2006
Posts: 158
10-17-2006 06:56
From: squiz Clifton
Hahaha you are so right it hurts. Most of the people in the welcome areas are long term users that either dont own land, or are there purely to show off a shiney new avi to the un-initiated masses. "Oooh wow look at me in my lovely suit and you in ur crappy tie-dye t-shirt".

They are the same kinda people that buy a mercedes not because its a nice car, but so they can use it as a way to look down on other people.




So True!!!
Summer Gulick
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Join date: 26 Sep 2006
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10-17-2006 08:54
I haven't been around that long, but I try to help out new folks when I can. SL is a little overwhelming when you first pop into it.

On the other hand....

I was in my home the other day putting together a few new outfits. I'm standing there wearing nothing but heels (thank you Primadonna) and this guy walks in and just starts touching stuff, leering at me the whole time. After putting on a quick outfit I said (with extreme patience) "Hey there. Going to introduce yourself or just keep poking around my house uninvited?"

What do you suppose he did?

He walks over to the sofa and plops himself down on an animation ball that I only use with <special> friends, then motions for me to join him. Of course, I banned him instead.

There are rude people and sociopaths out in the real world, and sadly some of 'em play SL. Can't be helped I guess.
DevilPliers VanDornan
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Join date: 12 Oct 2006
Posts: 20
Heh
10-17-2006 09:36
Oh god.. I'm so happy I've picked up enough of this game to not feel so new anymore. I just started here two weeks ago and it's already pretty overwhelming. I got banned from Teazer U for leaving prims out (no one told me that everywhere wasn't like the sandbox - and yes, this did need to be said) and then, being the noob I am I just figured they didn't exist anymore until I was told I was banned. So.. after talking to the guy for awhile he lifted the ban, just so I could get yelled at again when I went there the next time by some other guy. Sigh.. welcome to sl.

Jes
Alice Katayama
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Join date: 29 Jun 2006
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10-17-2006 11:50
From: Summer Gulick


I was in my home the other day putting together a few new outfits. I'm standing there wearing nothing but heels (thank you Primadonna) and this guy walks in and just starts touching stuff, leering at me the whole time. After putting on a quick outfit I said (with extreme patience) "Hey there. Going to introduce yourself or just keep poking around my house uninvited?"

What do you suppose he did?

He walks over to the sofa and plops himself down on an animation ball that I only use with <special> friends, then motions for me to join him. Of course, I banned him instead.
From: someone


I had someone do something similar, he walked in when I was trying things on, and told me to carry on! (my sofa didnt have pose balls)

I too had to ban him to get him off my sofa.
Earl Zabibha
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Join date: 22 Aug 2006
Posts: 158
10-17-2006 12:35
your kidding you have someone just come in and NOSE around you HOUSE like it is a public place?
Enyah Everidge
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new-b seeking answers:)
10-17-2006 12:54
Hi all, Since there has been discussion of the more established members helping out the newer players, I thought I would take a chance and post some questions I have had. I am still in the overhwelmed-how do i avoid all the sex spots-phase of SL but I'm learning.
If anyone has a second, could you please throw some tips my way in the following area...? thanks in advance!
EE

-buying land--how do these transactions occur? what's the best way to find land (i.e. forums?) are there contracts or agreements, or is it just a done deal?

-where do i go?! i keep wandering around, hoping to find some interesting places but all of the places I land are sexual... there's more to SL than that, right?

-how do I change my profile? i thought I could do it from here on My Account but maybe not. what if i want people to be able to email or private message me? What is private messaging-- is it possible to send a messgae to another avatar while they're not logged on?

okay, that's enough for now, but there's plenty more so if anyone is bored and wants to answer more just let me know.
THANKS!!
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