Why so many RUDE people?

This is a good point. In RL we have eye contact. Perhaps one day the physics and graphics of sl will be of a sufficient quality to mimic the real world more closely in this respect.

This brings up another point. When your chatting to someone, why not make your avatar face theirs? I tend to use mouselook a lot, because I notice my pc lags less (poor graphics card I'ma fraid) and it adds extra realism for me. I'm tired of looking at he backs of peoples heads.

I've found that when not out shopping, where someone will actively be looking for goods/products, or dancing in a club, most of the people I come across do face me and others when speaking. Fortunately, having someone try to hold a conversation with their back to me has never be a problem outside of me bugging a few builder friends while they tinkered about.

And that's another thing *flips on his "Get all huffy and worked up" attachment*, QUIT TALKING TO ME IN SANDBOXES!!! THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE FOR!!!!

Seriously, go to a bar or something.

Just kidding - but only half, still half serious too. This is all part of the point I've been making all along - SL conversations do not seem to observe any kind of ettiquette whatsoever. I try to maintain certain standards of decorum - opening the door for female avies etc - otherwise it's just bad form, old boy.

When i am in the sandbox building I have alot come over and ask alot of questions, I try and help or send them to the help island... but always do it in a nice tone

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I just can't understand why other will go there if they do not want to be talked to or asked questions by the newbies

That's just funny. Just last night in fact, I was over at the public help island sandbox. There was a new guy, only a day or two old, weaving and wandering from resident to resident. I paused what I was doing and waved, saying hello....

I got a hand grenade to the face.

What's up with that?!

he was bein, as my hubby put it, a jackamole.

i hope you pointed and laffed. i would have

I had one of those yesterday too.

Seems to me there's a strong need for a feature request for av's to have a "no weapon" checkbox - if it's set, you can neither carry weapons, nor be harmed by them.

depends on the land and landowner
they have a check box now under options(if you are the owner/leaser of said parcel, land etc) for no push, which renders any(almost) weapon harmless.we have it set on land and when we do get the occaisional jackamole, we break out the popcorn and wave. or say hi. or if busy, temp/eject ban.


but pointing and laffin is still good ^_^

I just set to busy and hope they get the message. It's all very well trying to be nice, but when you're being interrupted every two minutes tempers can get a little frayed.

SL cannot distinguish a weapon from any other object. It can however spot a script. there are two main ways to prevent people's weapons working

1. Turn off build - this prevents the weapon from producing it's ammunition/bullet/whatever, as to all intents and purposes the weapon's script is essentially rezzing the bullet object in the same way that the player does manually.

2. Turn off scripts, this prevents the weapon doing anything at all.

If you turn off build, that's probably the best thing, as turning off scripts can prevent hugs etc working (unless you want to stop them, in which case fair enough).

For the record, turning off push does not prevent the cage guns from working oddly enough, however both of these methods will. Of course, turning off build is not practical in a sandbox, for obvious reasons.

I should try that. Thx

Well I confess that I have had a good old snoop around a lot of private houses. As a newb, ALL of my first impressions of SL locations in the first week, apart from the Welcome area, was of strip malls, casinos and night clubs of varying degrees of tackiness and/or sterility.

During my second week I deliberately searched for anything, ANYTHING that didn't involve shopping, sex or gambling. All very well but you can't do that all the time.

I looked at places for sale and for rent (mostly yawnsville). Then I found some lovely homes, parks, gardens. Some were on private islands, some were obviously from the "good old days". Since I'm on GMT most of the properties were empty. Most of the regions had no one in them at all. I felt a bit of an invader, but since I also came across places that were locked or otherwise protected, I assumed other people didn't mind strangers wandering through their homes. I enjoyed looking at the possibilities and it gave me some idea of what I might aspire to. On the rare occasion when someone was "home" I buggered off immediately - combination of respect for privacy and general lily-liveredness. I know its "wrong" but I'm nosy!! LOL.

RE rude people, maybe I'm just in the right time zone to avoid a large number of American teens logging on, but I'd say the proportion of nice to rude is much better then other online...erm...games/platforms. Though I didn't think much of the last chat up line I got. "Nice ass....do you like anal?" A bit much from a total stranger given that I'd just TP'ed in and was still rezzing. Mute works a treat, doesn't it?

LOL Chellonia!
I've not backread this entire thread so probably all been said many times already. If a place isn't actually locked, I stick my nose in. On the occasion that the inhabitants are um .. intimate, I go quickly. More often than not, in fact every time so far, if they are simply building/shaping/whatever they'll politely answer questions but I'm careful not to outstay my welcome.

For me some of these places that are being modified/built are more fascinating than the fully functional shops and I'm deeply indebted to those who have built homes and haven't put these red barriers around. Thankyou!

dont beleive bilbo, he steals undies

June 2006 - Linden Labs foolishy takes away any sort of age or credit card verification at the very beginning of summer break for school age children.. astoundingly immature newbies invade the grid.

July 2006 - Linden Labs reinstates verification for the TEEN grid to keep ADULTS out for fear of pedophiles, yet lets Bobby the curious 13 year old continue to bring his frinds in to experience adult content in the adult grid.. mass of immature pervert newbie invasion continues and escalates.

What we have now are a massive number of kids and immature adults from other countries who couldn't be here if credit cards were still needed, treating all avatars around them as if they are simply NPCs in some first person Playstation shooter game.

Remember.. this is the internet. A complete stranger will ask a female if she has nude pictures of herself to share in his second sentence on any chat program, becasue with anonymity comes strange and powerful nerd audacity that they would NEVER have if aproaching a woman in public in real life.

This will never ever cease until all unpaid and unverified accounts are removed from the grid, and credit card verification is reinstated. That will happen around the same time that Satan is using ice skates and the troops are pulled from Iraq.

Get used to it. SL is a business and LL is a money making machine. Your feelings aren't even secondary. They aren't in the top 500 concerns. If they were, LL would test updates on the grid for more than one or two weeks at a time before dropping them on us unfinished. They'd make major changes and test them all at once on the test server for two to three months, THEN release them and patch as neccesary.

Your SL is a profit margin for Linden Labs. Never believe otherwise.

You think these are only from other countries then your own?

Morwen.

OK, the things I want to respond to were all the way back on page 3! so ya'll may have already moved way past this, but.......

My SL wife and I used to make our residence in Sinaburoe, but very quickly I locked down all of our property due to the sheer volume of rude people coming through making inappropriate suggestions, using any weapon they may have purchased or gotten free from anywhere (this was before anti-push tools came online, although I know there are ways around those), etc.

Eventually I found a larger parcel of land, all joined, in another region. Since our land was not connected, and we were always having prim problems, I felt it was a good time to move. So I checked it out, the neighbors were friendly, for the most part there were no red ban lines (with some exceptions), no lag (which was horrible in Sinaburoe), etc., so we bought it.

At first everything was fine, until the day someone walked into our new home uninvited. That guy wasn't too bad though, he did kinda hang around outside watching the movie we had rented through the walls with his camera controls, but a polite explanation was good enough, and he left.

Then someone else came walking in through the same door he used, when I believed it was locked (turned out the locking script was having problems communicating with it), but she was really cool too, very polite about it. Said she got there by mistake, which can happen as there are locked areas around our home which could have bounced her onto our property.

Others have also arrived on our lot "by mistake", but they were by and large pretty understanding when we explained the situation.

UNTIL.........

Just last week we had all the doors locked on our home, windows were opaqued so nobody could see in without using their camera controls, and we were fine, right? NOT. Some dude teleported right into our living room, who neither of us had ever met before, and was most certainly not invited. He first tried to say he was there entirely by mistake, but eventually we got to the truth of the matter. He had used the map looking for people, saw our dots, and teleported to our location. He also said he was with some university that was hosting a discussion about "antisocial behavior inside of Second Life." My response to that was, "Behavior such as YOURS?" Oh yeah, he apologized, said he didn't realize he was being antisocial. But then he had the nerve to tell us that if his behavior bothered us, we should come to the meeting!

The ultimate response? I put on my shield, which also can be used offensively, typed the command to orb him, copied it to my buffer, then publicly told him goodbye, before pasting it in the chat bar and hitting enter. I also AR'd him.

The next day, I subdivided our lot since there are some areas we WANT the public to be able to access, leaving a parcel that only includes our home, and banned everyone from that parcel. So if you happen to come by our property, well, expect the red ban lines. So sorry, but nobody is allowed to teleport into our home uninvited. Period, end of discussion.

I hate ban lines as much as anyone else, but if people are going to continue to pull stunts like that, then they are in fact needed, and until there is no longer a need, I will continue to use them no matter who finds them annoying.

I kind of thought one of your neighbors in Sinaburoe was pretty nice Yngwie!

By the way, looked like Candace's store was hopping yesterday!!

Yes, the neighbors weren't the problem in Sinaburoe. It was people drifting in from who-knows-where that made the experiences there less than pleasant.

And you're right, our store is doing quite well. I'm excited about that. Other than the fact that nobody seems to want the things I'm offering. lol But I'm working on that. Cadence is really making out though, which I think is a gas.

Hmm i duno if i'm just full of common sence or if i'm totally different then most, but i choose not to go places i know i'm not wanted. Like angel said on the first page, if theres no easy way to get there then you probably shouldnt be there. If i go to a gorean sim in a furry av and i'm told to leave, i respect their rights to boot me. The reason why theres so many grumpy people in SL is because of the way its laid out.

SL is a open canvas that allows anyone to do whatever they please with little to no restrictions. This sometimes leeds into bad tidings. Griefers (Idiots) tend to cause problems for true users, so most those true users will be secure at who they wish to socialize with. For instance: My home sim is a open sim that allows visitors, and is even residentual in parts of it. But theres places the public are not permitted to go. Like MY HOME! Which is located way in the sky. Not for sexual reasons. Heck i have nothing in there but a psyke orb.

I use that place to get away from newbs and griefers, but they fly up there anyway. So my psyke orb gives them a ride back home. Some people in SL just can't take a hint until you stick it in their faces. I know they might argue that they should have free access anywhere they want, but the fact is that they don't! If a land owner chooses not to let them in (who is paying real money for the land i might add), should be allowed to deny them access.

I'm not sure if there is a proper female version of the word "jackass", so I'll make one up and go wiiiiiiiiiiith...........Jill-a-mole......? Yeah, sure....why not?

Ok...so the wifey and I are having a house built on our own parcel in what is a completely residential sim. We're standing in the corner talking about the next day's work when our friend (who's actually building the house for us while I stand around and pretend to help) tells us we have a visitor. We turn around, say hello, are greeted, fine. We ask if there is something we can help her with, we're told no. We ask if she lives on the island and if there's anything wrong. Yes to the first, no to the second.

Here's the fun part...she says she has a gift for us. I reply simply enough with "Hmmmm?" She says, that we're being rude and should show some enthusiam. I say outloud "Well this won't end well..." to which I'm told "Not if you keep pissing me off it won't." I know I know...I should have E&B'ed her right then and there. But no...I was trying to be sociable since she did claim after all..to be a neighbor. Next words out of her mouth? "Ignore me a minute. Need to change weapons." Click...off goes scripts.

She tries to draw the weapons and sees scripts are disable so she walks a few meters across the parcel line and turns around. Click...off goes build. At this point she's firing but nothing's entering the parcel because I've disabled build and banned her. So her friend who was "hiding" on a neighbor's roof tosses down this smoke and flame grenade type thing (particle emiter) and they fly off.

Now please keep in mind, this is a purely residential, private island sim. No nightclubs, vending, or anything of the sort allowed. The covenant on the island itself clearly states No weapons use or display. Yet every few days (or less) there's an instance where someone is shooting at or around our parcel, orbiting someone else onto our property, or dropping by unannounced and uninvited for try to cause trouble.

Normally I'm an extremely patient man, and I try to get along with everyone....but can someone please tell me why two verified accounts no less, would go out of their way just to try and piss off three people standing around minding thier own business, holding intelligent conversation?

Well. I've recently bought a mainland plot to do a bit of testing and scripting on, and I receive quite a few visitors, all of whom so far have been three days old or less, and all of whom have been absolutely polite and respectful; several have been utterly charming.

Doesn't make for a terribly good anecdote, I know.

May I ask what you have on this plot?