Ad Farms + Beacons way up in air! Yikes!

People giving up thier land en masse won't happen, but perhaps we could set up a mass "sit in". Basically find where Lindens are in-world (does anyone know anymore?), and then keep it flooded with a constant stream of avatars. I mean like totally fill Waterhead and the surrounding sims. I'd be more than happy to park my avie there while I went to work/sleep if I could get it through LL's thick skull to get off their dead a$$ and do something about this issue.

~Jessy

LL will do nothing. Variations on this theme have been tried for years. Learn to love living in a completely enclosed skybox.

I wouldn't exactly call that fighting back. I think the only way LL will ever do anything about this problem is if residents stop making their tier payments in protest.

Won't happen until compitition comes up to move to. Then it will be too late for LL to fix anything. *shrugs*

~Jessy

Blimey! Last time I saw him I was a raw noob discovering that magic mushrooms have embarassing consequences!!!! So that has to be at least 18 months ago if not more.

If everyone did it, it would definitely be fighting back. Later today, I'll be buying up around 50 of these 16m plots and donating to AP. (If I find the time =/)

If that isnt helping beautify my sim, I don't know what is.

Looks like the OP is going to have a long-term problem with ad-farmers. The clever Cytherea Eagle (she has officially named herself in this thread, so we don't have to pretend we don't know who she is) has discovered that the OP has a complex of skyboxes in addition to her substantial ground-level builds, and that explains the vertical beacons - which uglify the view all the way up to the sky. Some of them are between parcels owned by the OP and so are effectively within her overall build. It gets worse: There are other smallish parcels around owned by other people that could be converted into new ad farms - either by Cytherea The Terrible or by other ad farmers operating in the area. And worse still: There is also a substantial amount of Governor Linden land adjacent to the ad farms. That means the farmer can draw on Linden prims for her lagacious rezzers, so joining with the neighbors to starve her of prims may help a bit but probably won't help much. The Linden land has 5-minute auto-return so you can't just fill it up with landscape-neutral prims, either. If and when the Linden land ever goes up for sale, guess who will be using sharp elbows to get to the head of the line to buy it?

OP's best course seems to be the one she is working with - blocking screens and walls. Make the ad farmers eat tier in their isolation. And everyone, be a good SL citizen and NEVER NEVER NEVER buy an ad-farmer out; that is just feeding the evil. Boycott the ad-farmers' extortion as well as their advertisers.

Invisiprims may block the beacons - or the OP and her guests or customers could just use CMD-ALT-SHIFT-= (as in equal sign), which toggles off particle effects of all kinds from viewing by you. You have to put that back on every time you log on, but on the other hand it costs zero prims and construction headaches.

OP needs to be scrupulous about observing the letter of the TOS, too - obviously, Cytherea The Terrible is just aching to use the Lindens to do her dirty work for her at any opportunity. Two can play that game, though: OP and her neighbors and associates should look for opportunities to AR the ad-farmer(s). Lagging sims and abusing sim resources is a good thing to AR - go for it. Point out the observation someone else has made here that rezzer-lag is a drain on the entire grid and do so each time you file. I should think each lag-producing rezzer would deserve its very own AR, since it is on a separate parcel. There are lots of them in this case. And the OP's friends, customers and neighbors can each file their own ARs. For each rezzer. Each day. Since the OP's group has 161 members, that could add up to a lot of ARs. (In fact, LL may have to add a new server just to calculate the theoretically possible maximum number of ARs available to the OP.)

The area is PG, so don't overlook the possibility of ARing for objectionable ads and signs, as well.

Ad farms are an affliction Residents can do something about themselves - screen them off, turn your back on them, AR them whenever you can. In the long run, having to pay tier is the ad-farmers' vulnerable point. Make them bleed, with no hope for profit. Even if they are so foolish or blindly greedy they don't go away, you still have the satisfaction of costing them.

You mean you're buying 16m plots from ad farmers? At crazy prices? If that's what you're doing, you're only encouraging them to keep going.

Maybe it's a coincidence that islands bring in $100 per month more tier payment for LL. So what would be their incentive for making the mainland more pleasant to live at?

Actually most in my sim are not exorbitantly priced. A 16m plot for under 500 L$ is fair game to me. These are all owned by one group, which also offers other services... generally i like their group, but frown on their land 'decoration

If it's priced over about 700 L$, then I wall it in as much as I can by buying nearby plots and erecting walls (As attractively as I can), and move on.

ETA:: Also, I never buy every plot until I've AR'd some overlapping advertisements with all of my accounts (4..not many but works) and let that get handled, which hurts the adfarmers at least a little.

And any time an exorbitantly priced ad-plot is being sold, and has overlapping ads..you guessed it.. an army of ARs from all of my accounts and about 10 other peoples'

Hello.

Just a FYI: Mr. Sands can't edit his original posts...because shortly after posting it...the OP ad farmer somehow got his account suspended for a day! I think she knows someone at Linden. Please help report her and her alts (IM me for the names) to Lindens. Not that it really will help...as many as said here...the Lindens seem to rather backup a porno advertiser using temp rezzers on 16sm land...than help a legit SL business owner who helps hundreds of newbies enjoy SL. But, if you want to know where her other land is locationed use:

http://www.mappanovus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=34&Itemid=70

and type her name in the seller field....Hint Hint

Once Mr. Sands is unsuspended by the Linden he will remove the OP name and the cross post to please all you people thinking naming ad farmers, especially griefing ones...is worse than this.

That might well be that he got suspended for refusing to remove overhang?

1K in mine. And I am now in the sky. KISS IT!!!

When LL created the new continents, I was very tempted to buy a large set of sims and rent it out at near break-even, with the only covenant being that any parcel owner who put in adfarming or camping in excess of <x> spots lost their land immediately. The sims would be monitored for those infringements and excessively lag-producing objects/scripts, and otherwise anything goes. I'm still surprised that no one did that. Or did they, and I missed it?

Des is right. Administered land is the only way of controlling this. If LL won't do it (and I agree with those who have said that they won't), then residents would have to.

Hello.

Just a FYI: Mr. Sands can't edit his original posts...because shortly after posting it...the OP ad farmer somehow got his account suspended for a day! I think she knows someone at Linden. Please help report her and her alts (IM me for the names) to Lindens. Not that it really will help...as many as said here...and the other post located here: /327/d6/233833/2.html#post1825307

the Lindens seem to rather backup a porno advertiser using temp rezzers on 16sm land...than help a legit SL business owner who helps hundreds of newbies enjoy SL. But, if you want to know where her other land is locationed use:

http://www.mappanovus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=34&Itemid=70

and type her name in the seller field....Hint Hint

Once Mr. Sands is unsuspended by the Linden he will remove the OP name and the cross post to please all you people thinking naming ad farmers, especially griefing ones...is worse than this.

Forgive the n00b question, but after banner her from your land, what is the issue with putting up one of those large scenic 'screens' on the side of land that borders yours? Block her out and on her side of the screen put a nice boycott msg.

There's power in numbers. Maybe all those alts individually went and fielded ARs aplenty.

The face shown here would mesh with gaming the AR system. Remember, the more ARs received the more LL are ABLE to act.

I admit to buying ad land in my home sim, especially since most of it is going for around L$ 300.. Yeah, I know, but darn it, I want it. My aim is to own the whole sim eventually! Probably just in time for SL's real competitor to open and have wayyyy better CS. In which case, bye-bye LL, hello whoever!

Might do my neighbor near the farthest patch a bit of the friendly and block the one ad in. It's not for sale.. and it seems to be completely within it's boundaries. Of course, my neighbor would like to buy my little plot off me too.. but it's group owned and I really do intend to own the whole sim eventually

can all the idiots keep this shit in RA instead of bumping cross post in inappropiate forums???

While it is true that Linden Lab has been unwilling to address the problem of AdFarms (a problem created by their decisions), all Lindens are not the same.

Often different Lindens will handle a Trouble Ticket or Abuse Report in very different manners. There are some Lindens who will do the absolute minimum they can to list the Ticket as "closed", which usually involves citing some policy that they interpret to mean they can do nothing. However, there are many Lindens (the majority, I would say) who will look for solutions. I strongly you send in the Trouble Ticket again, and try for a different Linden.

This is not true. Most Mainland sims are owned by several accounts. If just four people split the land evenly, their monthly tier is $75 each and $81 each when combined with at least a $6 annual Premium fee. That's a total of $324 a month collected by LL to support the sim which very likely sold for more than $1650 on the auction block.

I can't pretend to know why LL continually ignores the needs of Mainland owners; but I can safely assume it's not because they earn any less money from us than they do from estate owners.

Oh and /waves to Isablan. I don't post here anymore for fear that the wrath of a resmod will result in my suspension from the world. I'm a chicken, well bird, plane, sort of coco.

There fixed that for you.

She may have the right to run an adfarming operation under the TOS, but she's still wrong for doing so. It's like Fred Phelps. He has the right to picket the funerals of fallen soldiers, but doing so is beneath contempt. I don't think anyone who's attitude is "F-you, it's my land" is worthy of much respect.

Thank You Chris