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Alazarin Mondrian
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01-07-2008 02:52
Sean, I'm sorry to hear that you experienced the rough end of Ad Farmers and that POS cow, C___ E___. I had a run-in with her and other ad farmers who pursued me after I sold up, moved on and watched them carve up my land for ad farms and business-in-a-box emporia.

Yes, they got me banned out of SL over Xmas. Something which really pissed me off seeing how I'd only just gone and built up an entire sim Ice-Fantasy world and set up 2 live music performances for the 4th SL Winter Festival. So finding out that Linden Lab places a higher priority on Ad Famers' so-called rights than people who actually do stuff off their own back (and free-of-charge) to enhance the SL experience of residents at large came as no surprise.

Desmond is right, it's business 101.... a course which Linden Lab needs to resit... possibly on a remedial basis. In my case I've already made up my mind. I'm looking into ways of exporting all my content... all the treehouses I sell as well as every other build I've ever created. As soon as a better managed competitor comes along I'm moving and I won't even look back.

As far as I'm concerned Linden Lab has made their bed with parasites, con-artists and carpet-baggers who will strip the life out of SL. Linden Lab makes very warm-and-fuzzy sounding liberal policy noises. One thing they never learned is that you can never afford to be all warm-and-fuzzy liberal with people who are determined to abuse the system... a lesson the German people learned at a terrible cost.
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01-07-2008 04:13
Please Lindens - if any of you are reading this, the poor guy needs some assistance in dealing with this serious encroachment issue. I'm not usually a grumbler but this case really does stand out.
Tegg Bode
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01-07-2008 04:24
From: Usagi Musashi
Doing both cross post and naming manes is worse........................ :eek:

Have someone do this to your land then get back to us and tell us crossposting and naming the name of a snake in the grass is worse.................
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01-07-2008 04:51
From: Tegg Bode
Have someone do this to your land then get back to us and tell us crossposting and naming the name of a snake in the grass is worse.................


It's definitely not worse, no.. but it's wrong and the OP could get in trouble for it, which is why many of us are saying edit the name out. We don't WANT the OP to get into trouble on top of what they are already dealing with.

AR anything that crosses onto your property. AR it EVERY TIME it crosses onto your property. Have your friends AR it, if they are there when it crosses your property. That's the only thing that gets the Lindens to move on it.. and even then, it might take a few weeks.

I don't shop at places that use these ad boards. I don't use them for my shop, because it creates bad images for the places advertising in them. I don't need the money that badly ;)
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Cytherea Eagle
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01-07-2008 05:04
I will not ask any of you to harass anyone nor will I name any names but I will tell you that some people feel they can build over anyone thye please. When politely asked to show some concideration, some people like to ignore you. We all know those bullies that IM all their buddies to come and pick/ grief those who get in their way of sim domination. I for one do not like to be "pushed" by a flying idiot while I am working. I do not like being called cuss names or sexually harassed by bullies. Some newbies bullies like to go to other regions like Samammish (125, 40)and have their alts greif you more with huge prims. Ask the neighbor their what I have done to work with him so that my PROFFESSIONAL billboards did not interfere with his SL quality of life. I would say to you all this....... I am no ad farmer. I am a business woman. My service was not easy to set up. It was not cheap either. My advertising network include set ups with trees and flower. My structures are green to match the grass an treesI work hard in SL to better my business but ETHICALLY and within TOS. I have never been written up, warn or suspended EVER! I had to write 13 ARs in the Foxboro region, have 3 seperate Lindens come to remove over 27 prims, including a bed, from over my land. I DO NOT GRIEF, I DO NOT BUILD ON OTHERS LAND AND I CERTIANLY DO NOT TAKE ANY SH@# FROM A GRIEFER. In RL I am a stay at home Mother, which is a job in itself. I participate in SL to try to help out with bill as best I can. Reservation life is not so grand on the pay scale you know. I am an honorable woman but do not step on my toes because I DO bite. The original post in this strin has been reported for out right violation of TOS.

By the way, I had 23 freinds and sever people I do not even know tell me of this post. That should tell you a bit about my character if anything. THANK YOU ALL for the heads up!

Yes, go to Foxboro and see my professional boards. There use to only be one but as I said earlier, I do not like to be stepped on. Also notice most of my proffessional billboards have a donation pot at the base for raising funds for the American Indian Movement. I dont know how many of you live or have lived on a reservation but if you have, you know I really do not need more bs in a virtual universe. We have plenty to deal with and I for one have gotten up off my butt to do something.

.....and some bullies have to take a 3-7 days vacation along with all the cronies in their group.

Those who sling dirt only lose ground.

Creator bless and good journeys to you all.
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01-07-2008 05:07
From: Raudf Fox
It's definitely not worse, no.. but it's wrong and the OP could get in trouble for it, which is why many of us are saying edit the name out. We don't WANT the OP to get into trouble on top of what they are already dealing with.
AR anything that crosses onto your property. AR it EVERY TIME it crosses onto your property. Have your friends AR it, if they are there when it crosses your property. That's the only thing that gets the Lindens to move on it.. and even then, it might take a few weeks.
I don't shop at places that use these ad boards. I don't use them for my shop, because it creates bad images for the places advertising in them. I don't need the money that badly ;)

I agree it's wrong, it's just I don't belive Usagi finds it worse.
Then again I can imagine many residents in this position would probably tell us to stick the rules as they are at breaking point ready to leave SL anyway. If I was leaving I would spare no quarter on anything I could do to make the cause of my departure unpleasant, even if it resulted in suspensions or banning.
Cool, Mods are going to suspend me from accessing my particle spammed valueless lagfest land I can't use or bare to use due to adfarming ripoff scum. I wonder what Ebay and Weight Watchers think of their names being used in false ads by adfarming clowns, silly, they seem not to care or bothered investigating as they haven't replied.
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01-07-2008 05:23
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Tegg Bode
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01-07-2008 05:32
$187 per meter for land in the middle of adfarms, you got to be joking! Lands worth $1 per metre tops.
The trees make them look worse and the temp rez thing makes them flicker badly and 8 identical signs don't sell 8 times more stuff when put near each other.
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01-07-2008 05:55
Her ads are the usual sort of land spam, slightly more tastefully done to be fair, but the usual huge glowing L$9999 16m2 sort of thing.

I say "slightly more tastefully done" because if you have a wander around the area, though, wow. Although that isn't what you'd call a justification for being an ad griefer.
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01-07-2008 06:02
yeah I've just been too and those small plots are more attractive than some other properties around there. though I can see for the local residents that it must suck.
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Cytherea Eagle
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Lay of the left handers....
01-07-2008 06:39
From: Alazarin Mondrian
Sean, I'm sorry to hear that you experienced the rough end of Ad Farmers and that POS cow, C___ E___. I had a run-in with her and other ad farmers who pursued me after I sold up, moved on and watched them carve up my land for ad farms and business-in-a-box emporia.



I have no idea who you are! I have NEVER had dealings with you! NOR have I EVER "persued" anyone for anything in SL. I make my own way! I only buy pre cuts , shape them the way I want and sell the scrap if there is any. (as if thats your business) I have NEVER bought a large lot and cut it, I dont work with anyone else. I am a one woman show slim! As far as business in a box ... total BS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have never sold nor bought any business in a box.

Grandfather always said, "educate before you communicate".

Your propaganda is actually plublicity for me. I will now have more views to my profile, web site and ad boards. I will report the stats in a later post if you want.

In closing, I dont know you pal and you dont know me. You either made this crap up or assume I am working with another resident or group that did whatever you are talking about. Dont forget what they say about the word assume but in this case leave out the "me" and only keep the "u".

Thanks for the good fictional reading. You should write paperbacks.

Peace
Cytherea Eagle
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Temp on rezz....
01-07-2008 06:43
If you think temp on rezz lags sim resources you need a new computer, need to read a bit more about scripting or check around the sim to see what is really causing the issue.
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01-07-2008 06:56
From: Cytherea Eagle
If you think temp on rezz lags sim resources you need a new computer, need to read a bit more about scripting or check around the sim to see what is really causing the issue.



Ah Cytherea you were doing so well with your first post and then go and spoil it with this one. Temp Rezzers add badly to lag.
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01-07-2008 07:02
From: Dekka Raymaker
Ah Cytherea you were doing so well with your first post and then go and spoil it with this one. Temp Rezzers add badly to lag.

You are correct to a point my friend but it depends the settings. I worked diligently to be sure my ads were both sim and resident friendly. IM me in world and I will let you test my set ups if you wish. They are very minimal impact on sim resources. I invite anyone to come take a look at all three designs in my park.
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01-07-2008 07:13
From: Cytherea Eagle
I invite anyone to come take a look at all three designs in my park.
Just been there. These are actually very *high* impact temp-rezzed objects. They're non-phantom and contain multiple scripts (including multiple particle effects in scripts as opposed to prim properties). This isn't really the fault of the adplot-owner, though: the maker of these particular devices really just needs some help in making lower-impact temp-rezzed objects. These are really *quite* bad.
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01-07-2008 07:13
From: Seann Sands
next to my land...making it all look ugly.

build a wall like everyone else.
Cytherea Eagle
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I said my park ...
01-07-2008 07:17
From: Qie Niangao
Just been there. These are actually very *high* impact temp-rezzed objects. They're non-phantom and contain multiple scripts (including multiple particle effects in scripts as opposed to prim properties). This isn't really the fault of the adplot-owner, though: the maker of these particular devices really just needs some help in making lower-impact temp-rezzed objects. These are really *quite* bad.


...not where the griefers are. They get special treatment remember. Those are not my usual set ups.

Again.... M Y P A R K

Not in Foxboro.... remember, I said I DO bite when need be. I am no push over.

Brolga
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01-07-2008 07:18
To whoever is floating adverts like that:

Do you really spam the skies with your stuff? Do you really force the people who flee into the skies to HAVE to look at your things, even though they have taken the only evasive action left to them?

Do you really litter the heavens so that people who have forgone the pleasures of trees, sensible skies and being able to carve out proper water features, the people who probably live with a flat garden if any at all ... do you really follow them and harass them and persecute them even though they have done nothing to you?

Yeah quote the TOS as much as you like. If this is your behaviour, it is reprehensible and you SHOULD be ashamed of yourself.

(I edited this to take the name out since frankly I am not giving free advertising to the sort of behaviour which darkens SL more and more every time).
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01-07-2008 07:22
From: Bradley Bracken
Boycotting wont help at all. If you look, most of the adfarms are crap places that I can't imagine anyone really goes to. Their main objective is to sell those small plots at outrageous prices and obviously it works.


Yep. QFT. GRIEFING, pure and simple.
Cytherea Eagle
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01-07-2008 07:25
From: Cherry Czervik
To whoever is floating adverts like that:

Do you really spam the skies with your stuff? Do you really force the people who flee into the skies to HAVE to look at your things, even though they have taken the only evasive action left to them?

Do you really litter the heavens so that people who have forgone the pleasures of trees, sensible skies and being able to carve out proper water features, the people who probably live with a flat garden if any at all ... do you really follow them and harass them and persecute them even though they have done nothing to you?

Yeah quote the TOS as much as you like. If this is your behaviour, it is reprehensible and you SHOULD be ashamed of yourself.

(I edited this to take the name out since frankly I am not giving free advertising to the sort of behaviour which darkens SL more and more every time).



I do as I wish on my land within TOS. Pay my tier and maybe I will ajust to your opinions but until you do, your opinion is just that....YOUR opinion. My hard work and time was for the residents and not just my business. If and when LL changes the TOS in the areas that concern my business, I will conform. Until such time, if you want to be a Linden...apply. Or better yet get off your butt and be an activist. I am all for people standing up for what they believe but not attacking and griefing others who are humble, honorable and loving.

....a tad bit firecracker too...sawy ;)
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01-07-2008 07:27
Wow, 47-prim temp rezzed things on each 16 sq.m. 3 prim lot. Those temp rez prims take from the overall sim resources. Sounds like a case of abuse of sim resources to me.

By the way, the transparent parts of those trees overlap onto neighboring properties, and since they're not phantom, that takes away from the usability of the neighboring parcels. If your lot is adjacent to hers, abuse report, abuse report, and abuse report some more.
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01-07-2008 07:31
From: Cytherea Eagle
I do as I wish on my land within TOS. Pay my tier and maybe I will ajust to your opinions but until you do, your opinion is just that....YOUR opinion. My hard work and time was for the residents and not just my business. If and when LL changes the TOS in the areas that concern my business, I will conform. Until such time, if you want to be a Linden...apply. Or better yet get off your butt and be an activist. I am all for people standing up for what they believe but not attacking and griefing others who are humble, honorable and loving.

....a tad bit firecracker too...sawy ;)


Interesting. I did change my post to WHOEVER floats adverts. You've chosen to reply, are you looking for more "there is no such thing as bad" advertising?

I pay my tier too, and I am just as entitled to an opinion as you are. However, I actually CARE about not irritating other people who are also paying their way through SL.

I guess that's because I am not completely self serving. AND my dear ... how do you know what or who I am?

*chuckles*

OH LOOK at the post above too. Sounds like you're not doing what you like on your land ... or rather not JUST on your land.
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01-07-2008 07:35
From: Cytherea Eagle
Yes, go to Foxboro and see my professional boards. There use to only be one but as I said earlier, I do not like to be stepped on. Also notice most of my proffessional billboards have a donation pot at the base for raising funds for the American Indian Movement.



So Qie went there...




From: Cytherea Eagle
...not where the griefers are. They get special treatment remember. Those are not my usual set ups.

Again.... M Y P A R K

Not in Foxoboro.... remember, I said I DO bite when need be. I am no push over. I work too hard and pay my tier. I BUILD ON MY LAND and dont take kindly to haveing the entire corner of a three story condo over my land and or being sexually harassed while working. Not to mention being orbited, tagged and cussed at.

Brogla



ummm...ok...which is it? Foxoboro? or not Foxoboro


Either way you are attacking the neighbors with high lag scripts on purpose...and you admitted to it here in the forums.

yikes
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01-07-2008 07:38
From: Cytherea Eagle
...not where the griefers are. They get special treatment remember. Those are not my usual set ups.

Again.... M Y P A R K

Not in Foxoboro.... remember, I said I DO bite when need be. I am no push over. I work too hard and pay my tier. I BUILD ON MY LAND and dont take kindly to haveing the entire corner of a three story condo over my land and or being sexually harassed while working. Not to mention being orbited, tagged and cussed at.

Brogla
Oh, okay. Is Brogla the sim name? I'm not finding it on the Map, but I'd be happy to take a look and make suggestions. One thing to be aware of is that temp-rezzing may in the future be restricted (again) to half the owner's allowed permanent prim-count in a region, so if that takes effect, in the case of someone owning a single 3-prim adplot, it wouldn't actually be possible to keep even a single prim continually temp-rezzed because spawning the replacement before the predecessor was deleted would go beyond the limit. I've seen this happening with some temp-rez setups, and it's pretty unpleasant, with the temp objects coming and going at 1-minute intervals.
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01-07-2008 07:38
From: Markubis Brentano
Either way you are attacking the neighbors with high lag scripts on purpose...and you admitted to it here in the forums.

yikes


Maybe this is why people are pushing her and harassing her, if that's the case. I don't get people hassling me in that way. Funny that. And if I did, I'd just eject them and get on with enjoying life.
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