Ad Farms + Beacons way up in air! Yikes!

Hi.

Well, after fighting it out with a crazy ad farmer next to my land today...and the Lindens weren't much help. I'm asking the community here to help.

Problem:

Crazy ad farmer named : -snip- (Edited Jan 8th - I had to edit her name out, to comply with TOS of Forums...as you can see at the end of the thread...she states she's already gotten the Lindens to "take action" against all us horrible people!), started placing TEMP REZZER ads in small 16sm parcels (the temp objects were over 50 prims, though the parcel only supported 3!) all over my sim next to my land...making it all look ugly. Plus, on top of that she has these beacon scripts that throw beacons 100's of meters in the sky...and look really bad! So, temp rezzer slow sim resources + tacky porno ads + 100's meter high beacons! What can I do to stop this??? (don't say move to an Island sim!

Here's one of the locations:

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Foxboro/91/49/76

Lindens stated that temp rezzers are not against policy...and she can do it all she likes! Yes, I know...nice job Lindens! Plus, the b-tch actually had the Lindens remove one of my prims (100's of meters up) that were barely overhanging her little 16sm parcel. And the Lindens did so! Thanks Lindens for supporting crazy ad farmer pushing porno and temp rezzers over me a legit SL business owner!

So, again...I'm asking does anyone know how to stop these beacon particles from going so high up or creating some kind of anti-beacon script or something? I know this is a hard one...even the Lindens aren't helping...so, maybe a smart resident out there might know something? Maybe...worth a shot! I can't place anything over her land...since she has shown she will get the Lindens to remove anything over her land.

BTW, I would suggest anyone with an AD farm next to their parcel to cover it with an mega prim centered on their land (not the ad farmers land, they autoreturn it!)...if you need a free mega prim, IM me.

Hope to hear from some of you!

Hi.

Well, after fighting it out with a crazy ad farmer next to my land today...and the Lindens weren't much help. I'm asking the community here to help.

Problem:

Crazy ad farmer named : -snip- (Edited Jan 8th - I had to edit her name out, to comply with TOS of Forums...as you can see at the end of the thread...she states she's already gotten the Lindens to "take action" against all us horrible people!), started placing TEMP REZZER ads in small 16sm parcels (the temp objects were over 50 prims, though the parcel only supported 3!) all over my sim next to my land...making it all look ugly. Plus, on top of that she has these beacon scripts that throw beacons 100's of meters in the sky...and look really bad! So, temp rezzer slow sim resources + tacky porno ads + 100's meter high beacons! What can I do to stop this??? (don't say move to an Island sim!

Here's one of the locations:

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Foxboro/91/49/76

Lindens stated that temp rezzers are not against policy...and she can do it all she likes! Yes, I know...nice job Lindens! Plus, the b-tch actually had the Lindens remove one of my prims (100's of meters up) that were barely overhanging her little 16sm parcel. And the Lindens did so! Thanks Lindens for supporting crazy ad farmer pushing porno and temp rezzers over me a legit SL business owner!

So, again...I'm asking does anyone know how to stop these beacon particles from going so high up or creating some kind of anti-beacon script or something? I know this is a hard one...even the Lindens aren't helping...so, maybe a smart resident out there might know something? Maybe...worth a shot! I can't place anything over her land...since she has shown she will get the Lindens to remove anything over her land.

BTW, I would suggest anyone with an AD farm next to their parcel to cover it with an mega prim centered on their land (not the ad farmers land, they autoreturn it!)...if you need a free mega prim, IM me.

Hope to hear from some of you!

Be careful about naming names. it is against the rules.

Not much you can do but block it

Quick nasty tip:

Do not put the prim on that parcel! but around the parcel that way your prim is not conflicting with there land. This makes it so they cannot do what your trying to-do to them

Also keep in mind mega prims can be deleted / returned on mainland sense Linden Lab dose not officially support them and if they do "Harm" they will act on it.

cross posting is bad

the location is fine but you really should remove the name.

there is little help for the particle beacons, you can personally mute the owner, and/or the object and that will stop you from seeing them, but probably won't help your customers any.

the only way to cut into another persons particle count is to be running particles of your own... several high frequency one would cut into the number of hers that show but would eliminate them entirely.

as for hiding the ugly mega's are a good solution, but not over another persons land... instead you can make a screening wall that can either be textured or uses one of the 'invisiprim' textures... applied to a mega these will block out everything behind them if the are large enough (via occlusion culling, the ability of the client to ignore drawing things completely hidden behind others)

as is naming names.

You can't name names or ask us to harrass another resident, even a lowly ad farmer. This will be a good test to see if there is a Res Mod within 1000 miles of this forum.

To the OP, wish we could help you, but if the Lindens won't, I suggest you move.

Certainly encouraging harassment of this individual is not wise, and this is an inappropriate post for this forum in any case.

Remove her name and adverse suggestions from your post.

Next, Ban her from your land and ensure Object Entry is turned off as well. This will prevent her prims from comming onto your land.

If you don't own all the land around her, then speak with those owning the other parcels surrounding hers. If all ban her and prevent her prims from entering, her parcel will not be able to support the rezzing of the Temp prims.

As for the rest, that's up to LL. All you can do is raise up prims to block the view of her plot. Be careful to keep the prims on your plot only. Do no encroch her 16m plot.

~Jessy

Add on:

Invis-Prims hide avatars and particles (They're used in a lot of women's shoes). So if up in the air, you could use one as a blocking wall to prevent yourself, or customers (if your store is in the air) from having to look at the beacon particles.

I'm headed off to sleep now, but if you can't find the invis-prim out there, send me an IM and I'll pass you a full-mod copy.

~Jessy

Seann,

The situation you are going through sucks royally, but you've come to the wrong forum if you expect to get support to be a griefer even if it is against a lowly ad farmer. Take the advice of others who posted before me.

If you think her temp rezzers are affecting sim performance, you could file an abuse report on her for hogging sim resources. If her beacons encroach on your property, that's fair game for an AR as well. That's pretty much all you can do within the TOS.

Look up Arbor Project in world and get a copy of the probe thingie that will auto-populate your parcel ban list with the known ad lot extorters. You may as well keep the whole lot of them away from you while you're trying to get rid of the one.

Something needs to be done.

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Yeah, there's rules against naming names and retaliation and all that - but I'd be pretty upset about this too.

I well know what extensive use of temp rezzers can do to the performance of a region - it's horrific, even to class 5 hardware.

Sure, we only have the one side of the story - but it's sounding pretty believeable because it's happened hundreds of times before. Reading this guy the riot act here would really, really miss the point.

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Lindens, I *know* you read this forum... *please* someone find a viable solution for this ad-farming nightmare. For the sake of all of us.

SL's competition surely won't make this business mistake. Mainland customers simply can't be treated this poorly - this is business 101 here.

Delay a feature, pull someone out of the mailroom, get somebody - anybody - to kill the egregious cases of ad farming before everyone on the mainland is simply ready to bail at first opportunity.

The mainland is something like 1/4 billion square meters, but these things stand out like screaming beacons. I'd wager 10 estate managers from Caledon could clear *all* the mainland of this blight inside of 48 hours if they tried, and a stiff penalty could keep it pretty clear thenceforth.

This is so possible to fix, and I'd hate for the status quo here to be 'business as usual'...

...is this how it *should* be, everyone?

You have my sympathy. I know names should not be named in forums, but people should be called on it.

My suggestion: put a big sign facing the ad saying:

"Boycott this advertiser!"

Ad farmers are the lowest of low life, there is no question. One ad farmer can destroy the appearance of an entire sim.

if they`d do that, they won`t have a reason to hire a brainless git like me and give something to do
btw, if lindens read this, *hint* *hint* *hint* *hint* *hint* , to much time on my hands

i doubt they`ll do anything against it or else it will get abused for anyone to file a "farm" report for even normal advertisement wich uses a sign
also the rights to do what you want with your land will come in danger unless clearly making understandable rules of wich they failed time and time again with what is *exactly* allowed and what isn`t

I've been railing against ad farms and ad farmers since I came to SL. So has every mainland resident I know. LL has read hundreds of proposals and received thousands of complaints and ARs and suggestions and nothing has ever been done.

Shit, they won't even police this forum anymore.

On the plus side, ad farm blight helps send folks screaming to Caledon (or its waiting list).

BTW I agree with the statements above -- ad farmers are destroying mainland sims, if any Linden is reading this.

The original vision of SL was a seamless world whose content is made by the users, it does seem like the majority of content is spam. Well, make the spammers pay, at least: how about a surcharge per unique parcel of land?

And to this other lovely place I've heard of. What was it called? Liome, I think.

If people would actually boycott the advertisers, there would be no need for these 'services'. One would think, anyway. However, there's a newbie born every second who doesn't know any better. I also suspect that many of the ad lot people make a lot more money extorting the neighbors into buying their overpriced eyesores than they make on advertising.

To the OP: I guarantee that your problem person will put that nasty lot up for sale for at least $1,000 per 16 sq.m., because neighbors in the past have been willing to pay that price to get rid of her. Please don't give her the satisfaction.

Boycotting wont help at all. If you look, most of the adfarms are crap places that I can't imagine anyone really goes to. Their main objective is to sell those small plots at outrageous prices and obviously it works.

The most frustrating thing to me is that here we all are, screaming for something to be done about the two MAJOR detriments to Second Life, and its future as a viable platform:

Bots and Ad Farms.

I don't want to get started on semantics but it seems that these are the two big things; they overrun sims and create a false impression to newbies. Doesn't LL understand that it's slowly killing itself? People have asked me why I've had all this stuff about parasites in my sigs for the last few months. These things, these ad farmers and bot runners are parasites in the system, and they're starving it of nutrients, which in this case are REAL people, who leave in droves in disgust.

Who's reading these forums? Anyone? Are we crying into the void? Does LL care??

Honestly, I think all private estates will be in better shape if the bar were raised a little higher on the mainland.

It's sort of like eating in a restaurant. If one dish makes you sick, will you even try anything else? I'll bet a lot of people never made it past the mainland's problems.

What a bleak choice. Ad farmers on the one hand, and capricious island owners who could theoretically ban you on a whim, on the other.

Sure, many of us private estate guys aren't inherently evil. But how would you figure out who was who, if you were new?

I'd prefer to say "value added" instead of "we suck less than the mainland" - just one man's opinion.

Doing both cross post and naming manes is worse........................

I agree, of course. My business is on the mainland and I've always loved it and have tried to leave every plot I've owned there a little more attractive than when I arrived. The Caledon comment was just me trying to look for any positive among the spinning signs.

No because the advertisers don't exist or if they do they don't care they get 100 billboards for $5US and never come inworld to see they are all in the same paddock.
If temp rezzers are not against TOS then if your land had build left on and someother people left 50 of them on it and then see what Linden labs think then, or maybe if all the residents in the sim got together and put them on their lands.
This is just bullcrap how residents have to be nice and the adfarmers and bot runners can do as they wish, but if the OP did have overhanging prims then they have to expect a Linden to remove them.
If there were decent competition LL might care for its residents, too late as we'd all be gone as quick as we can sell our lands off to a bot.........