Ad Farms + Beacons way up in air! Yikes!

sim fps drops by 4 to 9fps on rerez
pointless usage of particles besides to be even more then an eyesore
alpha goes on neighbouring parcels
high number of temp rezzed prims tota
ips is in the 70k wich temp rezzers with scripts are known to do

get your head out of your ass
these are sim laggers

Selfishness in the extreme. Poster child for why ad farms must die. FWIW I abuse reported it.

But LL doesn't care. Mainland is the LL ghetto. They've abandoned it to the il-behaved, and probably laugh at the mutlitudes who are still willing to pay money for mainland, as they gleefully deposit those auction and tier payments.

This is disgusting. LL, shame on you.

Cytherea - Are you saying that you have one set of temp-rezzed objects which are low-impact & sim friendly; Then you have another set of temp-rezzed objects that are indeed high-impact, and you use them to punish those who grief you?

Just wanted to make sure I understood what you meant there.

Peace. Be on your way to enjoy your life, as I am doing the same. Thanks for the publicity.

Be sure to check my profile picks.

"What is good and just for one man is most certianly good and just for the other."
~Lakota Sioux

Okay, stop right there.

24/7 temp-on-rez objects lag THE ENTIRE GRID. Every time a rezzer puts something in-world the asset servers take a hit. If you're using temp-on-rezzers for permanently displayed objects, you're slamming the server at least every minute 24/7.

Aside from that, temp-on-rez prims still count against a sim's prim quota. A month ago one of my sims was acting strangely in that about 50% of the time I couldn't rez a prim. This meant that people couldn't unbox clothes, and any scripted item that rezzes poseballs wouldn't work. About Land said we had hundreds of prims free, but when a Linden came out they determined there were over 500 temp-prims rezzed, pushing the sim past the 15,000 limit. (In fact we were at something like 15,015, which I didn't know was possible.) I discovered one of my tenants had a 500-prim sculpture rezzed 24/7, which was way more prims than he was paying for.

Temp prims still count against sim prim quotas, and thus there IS an impact on other residents of the sim. Plus the ceasless barrage of rez requests from temp rezzers all over the grid is part of the reason SL is so slow.

This has NOTHING to do with how fast someone's PC is.

So many abuse reports coming this person's way huh ... AND ... flagging up where she is so the griefers (who already KNOW she is easily spooked by griefers) will go pay a visit.

Hey at least I know where to avoid going to see greifer heaven in action

To all those lovely people who make pretty things, run ethical businesses, help people, provide a good time and have a GREAT attitude to SL ... love and kudos.

Thank God you are here to counterbalance this sort of thing.

I have worked with this person who has the ad farm and she was very responsive to my requests. I did not find her hard to work with or in any way deserving of a personal attack. I have ran a biz in SL over 2 years now and having no love for ad farms I do not make the mistake of thinking my rights extend to their lands. I find it amussing the original poster claims foul yet admits in the same post that he feels cheated that he cannot have his builds over over peoples land lol. Turn off your particles to easy? This world is made by its inhabitants- all of us. You own land you got the right to build , not build, run a biz, or sit on your butt and do nothing at all. If temp rezzors so draining on resources you would think LL would limit or exclude their use (they have a great financial interest in stability). So till and if/when they do exclude temp rezzors any and all can use so maybe not to blame a user but LL. I support this ad farmers right to put on her land anything she so desires as long as it complies with TOS for the area (PG, Mature, teen)

Yeah, I thought so. Folks called you out and proved you were blowing smoke, and off you run. I'm a bit surprised you responded here in the first place, since you know darn well you have nothing to stand on.

I guess what is "good and just" for others doesn't apply to you. Thanks for outing yourself by admitting that you lag other people on purpose, as Markubis and Travis pointed out.

i nominate desmond and his brigade of agents to bring order to the mainland!
id love to see an end to adfarms. they are the thing i hate most about sl.

I'd go with this, but I like Desmond too much to have him deal with this, you know?

Word to Desmond.

Someday, a competitor to Second Life will come out and they will have learned from Philip's "free market" mistakes. Too bad it still isn't illegal to be an a**hole.

It would think that it would take, perhaps, five minutes per sim on average, with appropriate powers. After all, it isn't hard to spot ad griefing, rather by definition.

The OP should not have named you. But otherwise, I side with the victims of your "business".

You don't care about anyone but yourself. You lower the value of every sim you touch. Why should we give a damn about you here if you don't give a damn about other residents inworld?

What happens on land is on land ... my objection is that if you park yourself at 760 you are trying your best to be away from the things happening on the ground ...

This point appears to have been totally ignored in the responses given.

Your abusing of the true meaning of that quote sickens me. What is good for one (caring) man maybe. What is good for one parasite most certainly does harm to all others. Didn't take long to reveal your true colors, eh?

Red to the bone wasna... red to the bone!

Aho Mitakuye Oyasin!

i did and was a nice addon to my boycot list of where not to shop...

glad i bought prefabs from Ace`s

This is the point. Every other estate manager on The Grid All Hail The Central Grid maintains a staff that effectively police the sims, serve the customers, and enforce reasonable rules designed to support the paying clients. There's no good reason that LL can't operate their estate just as well. They simply don't. In fact, they patently refuse.

*steps forward smartly*

If LL would ever grow a brain and give someone like Desmond this authority, I will be one of the first to offer to help in any way I can.

As for the "publicity" mentioned....*smirks* Yeah, well, the thing is that the ones that could be conned by bad advertising can't read the forums. Most newbies aren't here since LL won't let non-paying accounts onto the forums. I'd say it's pretty safe to say of all those that come to the forum, the majority are bright enough to see "bad publicity" and use that knowledge to avoid what we don't like.

The hits on the webpage may increase as people go to look, but since it's all just to gather information on what to boycott, all it would do for the owner of the site is use bandwidth with no return.

Ad-farms (even the legitimate ones) are an eyesore, and useless. I don't care how many pull numbers claiming they work, they don't. Those used strictly for advertising are soon pulled down as buisness owners realise this. The only ones left for any length of time are those that are set for rediculous amounts of L$ for a 16m plot. The longer they are there, the worse they become. Putting up particles and annoying scripts, and offensive prims to try to force someone to buy the land just to get rid of them.

I'm still of the mind that tier should be calculated per sim. So a 16m plot in a sim costs the same as a 512m plot. This method would be both easy to implement and create no more work for LL than the original coding. Some advertisers may still chose to stay (but I doubt it), and it would completely eliminate those trying to extort for profit.

True advertisers could simply turn to the way RL works. ie They could ask land owners in various places to be able to set out a small ad for a nominal fee.

So it would help the looks of SL, remove extortion, and open up a new venue in the SL micro-economy.

LL will never go for it.
~Jessy

we are all responsible for our own actions, if you want to tarnish your name with this person (opps you already have) then that is your choice. it doesn't matter that Linden Labs are crap at providing acceptable rights for the majority of SL residents over a few people who are using the TOS to abuse that majority, what's right is right and what's wrong is Cytherea Eagle

LL has no interest in keeping the mainland clean and enjoyable for its customers. I can think of no actions on their part to suggest otherwise, and can think of the following examples showing they don't:

Except for Nigel's pet train project there's been no new public works in two years. The great wall just stops dead and I'm sure it's never getting finished.

This particular issue comes up over and over again. Can LL completely solve this issue without being heavy handed? No. Can they take steps to make this behavior less desirable? Yes. But they haven't. I've been here nearly 3 years and it was an issue then, and I know it had a history before that.

Hell, a lot of this could be solved by being able to mute an avatar and make all their owned prims invisible. If they can do it for particles and sounds, prims shouldn't be much harder. Able Whitman did this with a source patch in the summer, but he seems to have lost interest in the project/sl.

Terragenning and throwing up some halfassed protected lands for the roads they'll never build is easy, so they do it. Keeping those sims livable is harder, so they don't. It's mostly passive, and as long as it's tiered they're happy taking our money while giving us little else in return beyond 117 prims per 512m2.

As long as an adfarm extortionist keeps themselves within the TOS they're invulnerable. It's disgusting on their part and LLs because if those stupid happyface spinning ads and similar aren't spam or visual pollution to extort you to buy the land, I don't know what is. I'm really sick of seeing beautiful mainland sims getting ripped apart by these scumbags.

I wish we could organize a mass protest where all of sl just dumps all their mainland at once. Or puts a stop payment on their credit card for SL. Ad farms have been a source of annoyance for a lot of people who have spent a lot of money in sl. I can understand that LL isn't quite sure what to do about them but they should do something.

I could never drop my mainland lol...beside it would all just be bought up by adfarm bots

My little way of fighting back is finding those 16m plots, and buying them if i ee neighboring ads over even slightly, then ARing that, and donating the land to Arbor Project or something similar ^_^

In general I buy ad-land and donate to the AP actually, since that is generally its purpose.

we can all make a legitimate JIRA voicing either disgust or solutions to the problem, and I have always wondered why that's not done, mass posting and voting is clearly noticed by the Lindens in JIRA but never here in the forums.

Holy scripted trees, Batman! Khamon is back on the SL Forums!