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At their "sole discursion"... is that lin-dim-ese for "in the order received??? After just returning form Zindra it sure looks like their doing the big guys first but then I've expected that from day one.

Probably there will be lots of ban lines up while people build. People do not like to be interupted in the building process.

All one crowd have done is to rezz a rug and bonk on it.
And no way are they looking for privacy.
Honking great parcel - small rug the only rez - close to the boundary.
As I fly around yesterday and today, I notice them doing the alfresco.
The only building going on there is the building to a climax

LL have said that land speculation is ok.

All one crowd have done is to rezz a rug and bonk on it.
And no way are they looking for privacy.
Honking great parcel - small rug the only rez - close to the boundary.
As I fly around yesterday and today, I notice them doing the alfresco.
The only building going on there is the building to a climax

I'd ask if you saw any kid avatars there . . .

Pep ( . . . but you probably have to wait nine months. )

Well, yes, but presumably it is supposed to be okay *after* zindra is being auctioned, not during the "adult content swap". we were supposed to get the first bite of the apple, not the land speculators.

Not that I actually *believed* them mind, but that's what they *said*

^V^

Nine months??

LL haven't covered even the first 5 minutes of applications yet.
By the time the swap process is finally over, the kids will have been through the Teen Grid and well into the Main Grid.


Wait until all the people who should know but don't know put in their tickets!
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzindraaaa

Ok i got this second hand but i spoke to someone that tallked to the winner of Hessan and Vanauken and her ticket was timed at 10.15....even if a typo and 10.05 that is still out of FCFS, i'm also amazed she volunteered the time info....

Well, yes, but presumably it is supposed to be okay *after* zindra is being auctioned, not during the "adult content swap". we were supposed to get the first bite of the apple, not the land speculators.

Not that I actually *believed* them mind, but that's what they *said*

^V^

I am tempted to post that on the wiki page but that wouldn't be fair can you get more info

me: I want an explanation as to why you keep saying that the tickets will be processed in date order yet tickets lodged after mine have already been assigned
me: and my still has a new status
me: 4051-6484260 29/6/2009 10:04 AM PDT (New) 4051-6484265 29/6/2009 10:04 AM PDT (New) Work in Progress 30/6/2009 2:14 PM PDT 4051-6484267 29/6/2009 10:04 AM PDT (New) 4051-6484266 29/6/2009 10:04 AM PDT (1 day, 5 hours, 12 minutes) Second choice, no questions asked.
me: mine is the forst one
me: first
me: as you can see, despite me being number 60.. number 66 and 67 have already been dealt with and finalised
me: so, I want an explanation please
Ethan: Hello Me
me: do i need to copy and paste that again or shall I just sit here until you come up with some kind of non convincing excuse?
me: hello?
me: for some reason it doesn't seem to matter what browser I use your responses don't always appear.
Ethan: I am currently reviewing the tickets associated with this, one moment please
me: good
Ethan: thanks for your patience!
mei: no patience left I'm afraid
mei: had you dealt with it at the proper time then I may have got one of my selections
me: now they've all gone
me: you've completely disadvantaged me
me: and btw.. this was 15 hours ago..
Ethan: Ok, we will address your migration request as soon as possible. There are several hundred requests to work through and we expect that to do take a bit of time, so please do have some patience with this migration.
me: no
me: that's not acceptable
me: these are supposed to have been done in date/time order
me: they are not being done that way
me: what are you going to to to recompense me for the fact that due to your incompetence I am not going to get any of my selections?
me: how and when we address these issues and the innerwork flow process is at Linden Lab's sole discretion, I'm very sorry that this may be frustrating. The tickets will be addressed in due time.

The problem is, the people who messed up their tickets have been getting done *quicker* than the ones who did it right.

as of last night at least, most of the people who had been given the swap said things like "I submitted the wrong ticket type" and one evben said that they submitted the wrong type at 9:59am. The ticket should not have been accepted, according to what we were being told in OH with jack and blondin- yet it was.

The land team is all flying by the seat of their pants, and doing things their own way- there doesn't seem to be a standard here- just several different "personal judgments"

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The person is packed up ready to go, one reason I can think, they have a buyer for their mainland and it's promised for the 1st July? There are probably lots of reasons for this.

Again, I agree with you in the main, but there are some swaps that simply cannot be explained by any other means.

An apartment building? A business selling grass huts? a swap granted to a completely empty parcel on the mainland?

As a rather popular scribbler of my day said in one of his plays, "There is something rotten in the state of Denmark".

how *big* it is, and how rotten remain to be seen, but I am convinced that there has been not a little hanky-panky surrounding this arrangement.

^V^

p.s. there most certainly are *not* enough LIndens involved with this mess. Nor have they been trained to deal with it, nor has there been open and clear communication with their higher-ups about it so that all of them are on the same page about what stays, what goes, and who gets what first.

They need to have a couple dozen people in-world doing this, reading the tickets, inspecting the properties for adult content, and placing people in the swap queue, and *then* processing their choices, in order, and then re-parceling the land and contacting the new owners.

You don't just hand out a pile of swap tickets to each linden and say "go". I think we could all have waited a couple of days for a *rational* process of "first come-first served" to work itself out. it would have been even easier to wait for a process of "largest to smallest" to work itself out.

I disagree.

Them saying first come-first served is an open invitation for people to get the forms filled out BEFORE 10 then click the Submit button once the clock turns over. That LL didn't update the system with the new ticket type until right at (or near) 10 isn't residents fault - we were told to get in at 10 or risk getting crapland. As long as the ticket had all the correct info, it being the wrong ticket type shouldn't matter.

I can understand why they didn't update the system until right near 10 - they didn't want to get a flood of tickets before then. That said, it probably would have been better for them to say, very clearly, that tickets received before 10 would get pushed down the line.

Rather than a strict first come-first served setup with multiple people pulling stuff off the queue, I think it might have been better to have them break it up into batches. Have one Linden pull the first 100 or so tickets off the queue and build a list of requested parcels with hit counts of how many of those 100 tickets want them; those with one hit get assigned right away; those with more than one get a closer look, based on stuff like their existing land and what kind of content (store vs club) they have. Maybe throw things like how long their existing land has been in use in there, too. Anyway, all the Lindens would work off that list until all the tickets have been 'closed' and then they move on to the next 100 or so tickets.


I don't think it's been handled as badly as some of the people here but that's not the same as saying I think it's been great. It's not as simple of a problem as many people seem to think it is, though...

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It's pretty well what I expected. I didn't think they'd adopt a professional manner and after the second ticket doing the "oh I'm so ditzy that I didn't realise I could queue jump by putting the wrong ticket in" it was a foregone conclusion they'd behave badly. All they should have done is close the second ticket with a note telling me not to be so stupid. Instead they've used it as a way to make sure I lost my place in the queue.

It's ok, it's just on par for LL. As a corporate culture LL like the punitive measures thing, Phil et al must have had pretty crappy childhoods.. lol

Actually the things I have looked at seem to be validly adult. I started looking critically too. Not too sure about the apartment building, but I suppose it is valid to want to offer your renters full adult range of expression inside or out. The grass huts seem to be part of a mall if you look closely at the profile. So, depending on what kind of renters you have.. or even not wanting to check thier credentials is valid.

I did see some things that seemed to be just residences.. but upon digging under thier land titles or groups found that they do claim to run some sort of shop. I am assuming they will have shops on platforms.

So far I haven't seen much that could be totally ruled out as adult, except maybe that vehicle place. Believe me I went looking to find fault, but so far I can't find much that might not have a valid reason for moving. Including the attrocious gaudy shop on the complete plot from line to line next to my third choice. (crosses my fingers one of my first two is available).

/me is truely sorry this is happening to you, Coudlbe, but encourages you not to yell at the Lindens controlling your destination. This is really a "how can we salvage this and make it work?" time..

Don't be sorry for me. I don't want or need it. I always accept the consequences of all my actions, even the ones I don't anticipate.

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That they aren't doing anything to mitigate the damage (after all, swapping our mainland for Zindra is only allowing us to keep what we have already bought, not giving us a *gift*) is a big part of the problem- and it frankly responsible for the kind of anger that gets expressed here (including by me )

As a supposedly International company LL should continue the process regardless imho as we do not celebrate Independence day here in Holland on the 4th July

If I want to feel bad that somebody who's followed this process since the start and invested their time & energy trying to make it better but is sorta getting shafted, I will damn well feel bad. Your consent is not required.