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Simple: AR those who abused the Zindra land move to aquire land for selling instead of for an adult bussiness

I have found this thread interesting and have read every post, from my point of view, not being someone after a land swap, and looking at the available evidence a lot of paranoia here about Linden alts or friends getting favours appears to be unjustified. The evidence points to an ineffective system of the swap process, due in main, to the varying amounts of time it takes to process any one individual ticket, which is just part of human nature. The argument of not enough Lindens being involved doesn't hold much water on the basis that it seems this would have the effect and cause of more tickets seemingly being completed out of order.

Edit: Has anyone considered that some tickets jump others, just because the ticket a Linden is handling at anyone time is waiting for contact from the resident who may be at work, in bed, shopping or tying a noose up to the ceiling?

Well, yes, that would perhaps put the land back into circulation- but will it give me an *actual* linden's *head* on display at the San Francisco office?

I think not. Abuse reports seldom result in beheadings unless they are of a *figurative* nature, and I'm afraid that simply isn't good enough in this particular instance.

It is an *actual* beheading that is needed. nothing less will serve as an adequate example to the "linden family"

But thank you very much for your suggestion, nonetheless.

Perhaps one of our more reasonable forum members will take you up on it, but I'm afraid that I have a reputation as a rakehell to maintain.


^V^

Again, I agree with you in the main, but there are some swaps that simply cannot be explained by any other means.

An apartment building? A business selling grass huts? a swap granted to a completely empty parcel on the mainland?

As a rather popular scribbler of my day said in one of his plays, "There is something rotten in the state of Denmark".

how *big* it is, and how rotten remain to be seen, but I am convinced that there has been not a little hanky-panky surrounding this arrangement.

^V^

p.s. there most certainly are *not* enough LIndens involved with this mess. Nor have they been trained to deal with it, nor has there been open and clear communication with their higher-ups about it so that all of them are on the same page about what stays, what goes, and who gets what first.

They need to have a couple dozen people in-world doing this, reading the tickets, inspecting the properties for adult content, and placing people in the swap queue, and *then* processing their choices, in order, and then re-parceling the land and contacting the new owners.

You don't just hand out a pile of swap tickets to each linden and say "go". I think we could all have waited a couple of days for a *rational* process of "first come-first served" to work itself out. it would have been even easier to wait for a process of "largest to smallest" to work itself out.

Yeh I have my eye on my support page and will update it on your wiki.

The person is packed up ready to go, one reason I can think, they have a buyer for their mainland and it's promised for the 1st July? There are probably lots of reasons for this.

my ticket entry time is =29/6/2009 12:27 PM PDT ..... laffs . i know. i was busy.

is there any undesirable radioactive swamp land on a burial site next to sewage farm or slaughter house in Zindra , if yes , then maybe i'm in with a chance .

brewery couldnt a pissup in organize a

Thanks

And what, pray tell, would be the reason for the land team to grant them a swap, since they have made clear that they must see the *adult content* on the parcel and judge whether or not it qualifies? and where was the adult advertising? The filtered search terms?

We have heard nothing of this, and while it very well may be as you say, *I* wasn't told that I could go ahead an pack up to save time- I didn't *dare* remove my content, because if I had, they would have told me I don't qualify for a swap. I would not have qualified under the rules of the swap if I had presented the land team with a bare plot and said "Oh, I have *plenty* of porn, but I put it all away so as to get ready for the move!"


Again, there are rules, and then there are people who are lindens and those who presume upon their friendships with them.

strings are being pulled, and favors being done. maybe a few, maybe a lot. but it fairly obvious that it *is* happening.

^V^

Hey! Who showed you my build?

So according to updates on the wiki, the ticket that is numbered directly in front of mine was completed at appoximately 3:12pm yesterday. My ticket is still marked as new. GRRRRRR

So all these swaps are for the new location of commercialized sex and violence??

What sort of business puts up banlines around its land??
Is this some sort of sudden customer-phobia?

There is probably some Latin term for 'fear of customers'.

Well after repeating it three times I do get a little condescending.

And my inoformation is from what the Lindens promised and what I was told by two lindens i ran into while flying around there, and from the 5 convrsations in live chat.

A business where you have to join a group (probably with a group enrollment fee or a monthly fee to remain in the group etc.) in order to gain access to the land perhaps?

Matthew

Lindenus Labus? lol

OK, well from our experience and others, it is sad to say but the best option is to camp out on the land you want.

Because for various reasons, tickets are not getting done in order whether it is because one linden has a lsit of tickets or it is on hold because a linden asked a silly question and has not bothered to look at teh reply, or because of whatever other reason.

maybe at least you can see if someone ahead of you wants it if they are there, hell i don't know.

I do know it appears at least 2 of us only got one of out original choices because we were there watching. Even though we were ahead of the people that were getting or were going to get the land we wanted.

As for the mess of several questionable land transfers done, well that is for another time as I only care about the rest of the poor people waiting. Yes something is screwy when a land baron with no adult content gets handled and approved. Same for the car maekr and the empty plot etc.

Yes something is screwy when the first served seem to ahve a script when asked about tickets.

But that does not help the poor people waiting.

What does help it appears is to know where you are in the list and if someone else is ahead of you wanting he same land.

If possible get someone to watch your choices and ask a linden what ticket they are doing if they go to assign your choices if your close in the que.

Regards,

sam

Probably there will be lots of ban lines up while people build. People do not like to be interupted in the building process.

then get onto live help. Not that it will do any good. I've just been onto them and they tell me that they are dealing with the tickets at their "sole discretion" and that I must wait patiently while they do this. Despite the fact that they dealt with others further down the queue 15+ hours ago they can't give me any indication when they may (or let's face it ) may not deal with it.

so for those of you who keep claiming that LL are actually behaving as they claimed they would, I'm afraid this little adventure of mine disproves your words.

I can understand that you possibly don't have a wide experience with major corporations or that strange bond that some people have towards LL that is never returned but never appears to fade has clouded your judgement but this time there is no way to excuse this.

The ticket was explicit and had all the information and if it had been processed at the right time would have been a very simple job.

I've been hanging around the pc for the best part of 2 days now just in case they got in contact and I've not had a peep out of them and they skipped over my ticket and processed at least another 7.

Still new ticket here, done on day one at 10:26.

what was the web site guys that is tracking them again?

thanks and sorry for those who are getting screwed, I always stick up for the LL ppl but this is just a slap in the face direct and upfront. BS

ty ty

The thing is, some of those spots are bound to be prime choices of valid requests. Some people will be required to pick new plots (4th, 5th and 6th choice, so to speak) and get pushed BACK in the cue, while one Linden could already start a post-review now, to simply disown the most blatant transfer abuse (and disown the mainland plots that were posted by those abusers for relocation as well for good measure). And put the disowned plots back into the relocation program.

I don't know, but did any of you consider that landshufflers who succeeded in gaming the system basically got their allowance doubled for 2 weeks, with one half of it being prime land (even better than what mainland has been for the past few months) while they can ditch their old for as little as they want, and still make a profit? Even if they abandon it, it's still profit because their Zindra land will be worth so much more than their old land.

LL have said that land speculation is ok.

At their "sole discursion"... is that lin-dim-ese for "in the order received??? After just returning form Zindra it sure looks like their doing the big guys first but then I've expected that from day one.

Ok i got this second hand but i spoke to someone that tallked to the winner of Hessan and Vanauken and her ticket was timed at 10.15....even if a typo and 10.05 that is still out of FCFS, i'm also amazed she volunteered the time info....