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samatha Congrejo
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06-30-2009 12:45
From: Gomez Bracken The only way that time would be possible would to submit the correct information needed for the ticket at the exact time the ticket system opened...
That surely can't have happened... I mean... for that to happen, you'd need to script a little program to submit the form with the right fields and choose the right ticket type....
and none of us knew what the right ticket type and fields would be until it opened...
right....?
mmm... You can't tickets would be 10:00 or 10:01 Most interesting is that three with land there all said the same almost exact line to me and more interesting is each asked why i wanted to know I replied why, then a long pause then the "I posted my request at 10:00:01" almsot exactly the same reply from each one then I asked if they mind giving me the ticket number since it is closed now anyway , then pause then "Yes i do mind". So so far i get, owner of plot offline, or Online and refusaes to even answer im, or Online and answers and refuses to provide any information or the last three who all amazingly all filed the same second!!
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Gomez Bracken
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06-30-2009 12:50
From: samatha Congrejo you can't tickets woudl be 10:00 or 10:01 most interesting is that three with land there all said the same almost exact line to me and more interesting is each asked why i wanted to know, then a long pause then the I posted my request at 10:00:01 then I asked if they mind giving me the ticket number since it is closed now anyway, then pause then Yes i do mind. [tongueincheek]Maybe thats why it's ground to a halt - the Linden Zindra move team are too busy logged in as thier alts and building on Zindra, to move through the ticket queue[/tongueincheek] Gomez
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Couldbe Yue
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06-30-2009 12:57
i can understand reluctance to give the ticket number. when Daniel asked for mine for the wiki I hesitated and had to consider whether to pass it over and this is despite knowing about the wiki etc.
If a stranger came up to me and asked me for those details - whether I'd done something underhand or not I'd probably say no.
As for the rest, well the myth is that LL always give preferential treatment to their friends and alts so we just have to accept that particular corruption allegation will always be there. True or not. Even if it was true, it only becomes useful in a class action against ll claiming insider trading.
The chances of a class action are even less than the adult content people getting it together to create an OS version of zindra as the goreans have done.
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samatha Congrejo
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06-30-2009 13:10
From: Couldbe Yue i can understand reluctance to give the ticket number. when Daniel asked for mine for the wiki I hesitated and had to consider whether to pass it over and this is despite knowing about the wiki etc.
If a stranger came up to me and asked me for those details - whether I'd done something underhand or not I'd probably say no.
As for the rest, well the myth is that LL always give preferential treatment to their friends and alts so we just have to accept that particular corruption allegation will always be there. True or not. Even if it was true, it only becomes useful in a class action against ll claiming insider trading.
The chances of a class action are even less than the adult content people getting it together to create an OS version of zindra as the goreans have done. well to be fair i explained why i was asking, etc. And what was interesting was the pause after each quesiton they asked like they were getting advice on how to answer.
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Meade Paravane
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06-30-2009 13:13
From: samatha Congrejo well to be fair i explained why i was asking, etc.
And what was interesting was the pause after each quesiton they asked like they were getting advice on how to answer. You're saying that all the people who've gotten land so far are Linden alts or some other FICish type?
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Qie Niangao
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06-30-2009 13:17
From: Brieanne Bomazi ... If you read my chats with live help, i said repeatedly that i don't mind waiting MY turn, but with a 10:03am ticket filed, and skipped, something stinks Well, something *is* weird, if the more recent information on http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Governance_Team_Actions is reliable. It looks as if they're barely processing tickets at all. There's one that looks slightly out of order (the one filed at 10:03 and completed at 11:07pm), but the earlier ones (a 10:01 and a 10:02) were completed much later than one would expect had they been doing much of anything during business hours yesterday. I suppose there may have been some back-and-forth for those tickets that we don't know about and that held up processing (which would account for them completing after that 10:03 one). But really, we have the ticket numbers, there just aren't that *many* to explain why all the 10:03s haven't at least been touched by now, unless it's taking an absurdly long time to handle each one, or there's only a couple people working the queue. We don't know of any 10:04s or later that have been processed, do we? (I mean "processed" in some way other than to be moved into the right queue.)
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samatha Congrejo
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06-30-2009 13:24
From: Meade Paravane You're saying that all the people who've gotten land so far are Linden alts or some other FICish type? Well so far not one wishes to give a ticket number except one who is a linden mentor and claims she was the very first one to get land and filed at 10:00 on the dot. I have no reason to disbute her claim. But is amazingly the one right after the (9:59 ticket posted on the wiki and she gave it to me after i showed her the link as part of explaining why I was asking for ticket numbers. so her ticket numbr she gave is the very next number after the one posted on the wiki at 9:59
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Meade Paravane
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06-30-2009 13:26
From: samatha Congrejo Well so far not one wishes to give a ticket number except one who is a linden mentor and claims she was the very first one to get land and filed at 10:00 on the dot. I wouldn't give you my ticket number. /me must be a Linden. Start sucking up now, folks!!!!
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samatha Congrejo
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06-30-2009 13:31
From: Meade Paravane I wouldn't give you my ticket number.
/me must be a Linden.
Start sucking up now, folks!!!! glad you find it funny. Fact is the ticket numbers are not good once closed and only good to the person that filed it, yet out of 15 poeple now asked, with complete explanations of why they were asked, would not give a ticket number, except one. and 4 now claim to all have filed at 10:00 am on the nose, they ahd no problem telling me that. no sorry three of them said they filed at 10:00:01 which is of course impossible since tickets don't list seconds and the ticket type did not come up till 10:00 am
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Couldbe Yue
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06-30-2009 13:32
From: samatha Congrejo Well so far not one wishes to give a ticket number except one who is a linden mentor and claims she was the very first one to get land and filed at 10:00 on the dot.
I have no reason to disbute her claim.
But is amazingly the one right after the (9:59 ticket posted on the wiki and she gave it to me after i showed her the link as part of explaining why I was asking for ticket numbers.
so her ticket numbr she gave is the very next number after the one posted on the wiki at 9:59 There's certainly enough evidence for reasonable belief of the claim of corruption. I hit the page as soon as my pc clock turned 10 and the ticket wasn't there. I then refreshed the page and it was. I'm not alone but i can't remember who the other person was who did the same thing. Mine didn't go in until 10.04 because i also attached the rtf file with all the details and had it bounce a few times because it needed those spurious mandatory fields filling out. next time I'll just fill in the bare bones to lodge it and then actually add the details once it's in - which is possibly what the 10:00 people did
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Sin Toshi
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06-30-2009 13:38
From: Couldbe Yue
next time I'll just fill in the bare bones to lodge it and then actually add the details once it's in - which is possibly what the 10:00 people did
That explains a lot.
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Whimsycallie Pegler
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06-30-2009 13:41
Yeah not realizing I would need to fill in all those fields like summary and details is what put mine back to 10:09. At this rate they will never get to me.
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Lota Lyon
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06-30-2009 13:42
From: samatha Congrejo Now up to 10 asked, 4 offline, 6 refused to give any ticket details, though amazingly three claim to have filed at 10:00:01 the reply was almost exactly the same for each.
How in the hell do you sumit a ticket in 1 second let alone 3 at once???
None of those three would provide a ticket number My bet would be because they have some "special" status!!! I put mine in at 10:09am so I'm guessing it will be 3 days judging by the so called "progress" before anyone even looks at it but I didn't expect much more.
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Storyof Oh
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06-30-2009 13:44
It was me..i hit the ticket as soon as SL time clicked to 10 am and the dedicated ticket wasn't there...refresh took like forever... Plus without knowing in advance the ticket name, the details required there is no way a 10.0001 was possible even if just attaching a notecard or file..(which has to be accessed via 'browse'...even copy paste would take over a second and there were several text fields and the killer question at the end about KB and comments....someone would need to know in advance that field needed filling..
so ..ticket title existing details slurls and parcel sizes do you want to keep existing land 3 choices have you checked KB comments n/a
in one second? i think not...
but then we know the answer already...same as the Zindra resident paying for an adult identity on 23rd June....
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Gomez Bracken
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06-30-2009 13:49
Just been for a quick wander round Zindra.... I can't believe the use of some of the land - particualrly waterfront - what a waste... I'm starting to dread what will end up next to us now... From: someone but then we know the answer already...same as the Zindra resident paying for an adult identity on 23rd June.... I thought you had to have established adult use on the land?? - LL even "threatend" that they would possibly look back at historical use of a parcel! How can that happen with a 7 day old resident??? Gomez
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Storyof Oh
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06-30-2009 13:56
resident was long established in a non adult business (unless you count the attire of models in promos) opened an escort/bdsm agency paid (L$50) classified on 23rd June...awarded Zindra riverside now with banlines
oh and as very non PG image in profile
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Meade Paravane
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06-30-2009 13:57
From: samatha Congrejo glad you find it funny. It was good and I shall bookmark it. Next time I wonder why LL never actually listens to us, I shall revisit it.
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Storyof Oh
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06-30-2009 14:03
Hessen and Vanauken has gone....er to a land barron
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samatha Congrejo
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06-30-2009 14:13
From: Meade Paravane It was good and I shall bookmark it.
Next time I wonder why LL never actually listens to us, I shall revisit it. I see so the fact we are questioning the great Lindens when there is plenty of reason to beleive that they are not honouring their promise to do the land swap, first come, first served, besed on the last 28 hours, is why they don't listen to us. Very intellegent reasoning. So by your thought process, they will listen to us as soon as we don't quesiton anything they do no matter how it effects us and our plots and our investments and our money.
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Meade Paravane
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06-30-2009 14:25
From: samatha Congrejo I see so the fact we are questioning the great Lindens when there is plenty of reason to beleive that they are not honouring their promise to do the land swap, first come, first served, besed on the last 28 hours, is why they don't listen to us. No. They don't listen to us because we have such a big tin-foil hat crowd. There's pointing things out to LL that are wrong and making constructive criticisms or calling them on it when they do stupid things and there's declaring that there's a conspiracy then looking for reasons to support that, regardless of if they make sense: From: samatha Congrejo And what was interesting was the pause after each quesiton they asked like they were getting advice on how to answer. And if you think I'm one that never questions LL, you haven't been here in the forums, especially in all these adult-content threads, nearly long enough. I have no problem telling them that they're doing things wrong. I just don't look for or make up additional stuff - they have plenty of real issues already.
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Wynochee LeShelle
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06-30-2009 14:26
From: Storyof Oh but then we know the answer already...same as the Zindra resident paying for an adult identity on 23rd June....
Oh..., and I decided weeks ago, to not try to cheat the process and to let all possible items and spicy art and affiliates I have, sleeping in my inventory... Especially after all these statements that LL can and would monitor back what was once established on a land and my new location was "clean" because I was not in an "adult phase". And this person established an adult business 6 days before? ... and it worked for the swap... This I would call chutzpah... On the other hand: short before I started to type this, a group notice from "Revolting Adults" reached me that a request for a land swap was denied, even though the resident runs a rather adult operation on the mainland. (said the notecard) o.O
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Leila Juneberry
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06-30-2009 14:28
I just came back from a small tour in Zindra and I am surprised how much junk there is already. It was so beautiful when there were no landowners and now it fills with all kinds of huge and ugly signs. There is even a mega flashlight in the sky somewhere and I have no idea what that thing does in an adult area ? I looks to me that Zindra will become a huge junkyard of pixeltrash. Well, there is a positive side: Most of the trashy landowners will take their junk to Zindra and the mainland could convert to a nice area. I hope I did not offend someone now, this was not my intention. I simply don't like all that kitsch and bling.
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Lord Sullivan
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06-30-2009 14:38
From: Wynochee LeShelle Oh..., and I decided weeks ago, to not try to cheat the process and to let all possible items and spicy art and affiliates I have, sleeping in my inventory...
Especially after all these statements that LL can and would monitor back what was once established on a land and my new location was "clean" because I was not in an "adult phase".
And this person established an adult business 6 days before?
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and it worked for the swap...
This I would call chutzpah...
On the other hand: short before I started to type this, a group notice from "Revolting Adults" reached me that a request for a land swap was denied, even though the resident runs a rather adult operation on the mainland. (said the notecard)
o.O On the last paragraph can you get the details to me via email or enter it up on the wiki as the governance page will start to show any patterns/trends in all of this. Many Thanks
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Gomez Bracken
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06-30-2009 14:46
From: Wynochee LeShelle On the other hand: short before I started to type this, a group notice from "Revolting Adults" reached me that a request for a land swap was denied, even though the resident runs a rather adult operation on the mainland. (said the notecard)
o.O WOW - Just seen that notecard - it shows the ticket "Date Created: 30/6/2009 11:57 AM EDT" If that is true - then they really aren't beening looked at in order they were received... Same reply I see as the last rejection we saw... Gomez
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Wynochee LeShelle
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06-30-2009 14:49
From: Lord Sullivan On the last paragraph can you get the details to me via email or enter it up on the wiki as the governance page will start to show any patterns/trends in all of this.
Many Thanks I sended you a mail 
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