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Gummo Zaks
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Join date: 27 Oct 2008
Posts: 228
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06-30-2009 07:09
I hope they realize almost if not all of zindra is spoken for in these tickets and go ahead and start bringing those other sims online so we can start makeing back up choices
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Valerius Constantine
*I* am adult content!
Join date: 5 Jun 2008
Posts: 777
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06-30-2009 07:15
How is this working out? What I find rather amazing is the lack of information that the process has opened up. I got no announcement of this when I logged in yesterday, and the blog has not been updated to announce that the process is ongoing. It looks like it will take awhile too. I was in by 10:30 with my choices and there has been no action. BT Heh, that's the point. we talked and made suggestions until we were blue in the face, and we got ignored, and LL decided that implement *this* "charlie-fox". the lack of communication was another thing that we took LL to task over. ^V^ |
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Bhakta Thor
Escape from RL
Join date: 31 Jan 2008
Posts: 291
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06-30-2009 07:17
If I accidentally called one view "right" and the other "wrong" then forgive me for my error. I simply meant to say what /I/ think and tried to indicate that LL probably thinks that same way. Not to worry, I was joking about my own insanity...sort of. BT |
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Bhakta Thor
Escape from RL
Join date: 31 Jan 2008
Posts: 291
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06-30-2009 07:19
 Tasteless!  I laughed out loud...at work. BT |
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Storyof Oh
Registered User
Join date: 14 Apr 2007
Posts: 139
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06-30-2009 07:22
I suspect they have already reached the 'OOps' moment when they are reaching tickets where choices have been taken...when they see a now larger request could of filled in all the blanks instead of leaving awkward smaller parcels lying empty (until auction)....when they wished they had mapped a load out first before notifying residents so at least they could maybe shuffle some...when they wish they hadn't let a 512 go within a larger region.....when they wished it really was 2-4%..........................
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Valerius Constantine
*I* am adult content!
Join date: 5 Jun 2008
Posts: 777
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06-30-2009 07:29
That's because we're too stupid/cheap/attached to this to just write off our investment and walk away - yet. That day will come. I'm looking forward to it as I'm almost at the stage I can leave without a backwards glance but more so just to see how many of those who have been complaining all these years actually go. It's a bit like the hot air that's been spouted on the AC threads down the months.. Enough hot air to heat a small city and pretty well zilch in the way of positive action.. heh, that's sl for you. Besides, some of us are stubborn bastards with more than a touch of OCD  ^V^ |
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Valerius Constantine
*I* am adult content!
Join date: 5 Jun 2008
Posts: 777
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06-30-2009 07:41
I hope they realize almost if not all of zindra is spoken for in these tickets and go ahead and start bringing those other sims online so we can start makeing back up choices hell they should have booted them up before they opened Zindra to visitors! ^V^ |
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Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
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06-30-2009 07:46
hell they should have booted them up before they opened Zindra to visitors! |
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Denim Robonaught
Registered User
Join date: 11 Sep 2008
Posts: 1
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06-30-2009 07:55
ticket from 10.06 - still nothing *sighs deeeeply*
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Meade Paravane
Hedgehog
Join date: 21 Nov 2006
Posts: 4,845
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06-30-2009 08:11
They should have consulted more with us on Zindra's "look", landscaping, and topography. I don't quite understand why they did zindra terrain the way they did. They must know that land with access to protected water is always seen as a premium. They really should know that they have angered lots of people with this whole adult content thing. They definitely knew that they would be swapping these angry residents to this new land... So.. What's with the high river banks and lack of parcels with water access? It's not like it's more expensive to drop down a region with more rivers... _____________________
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Sling Trebuchet
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Join date: 20 Jan 2007
Posts: 4,548
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06-30-2009 08:22
I don't quite understand why they did zindra terrain the way they did. They must know that land with access to protected water is always seen as a premium. They really should know that they have angered lots of people with this whole adult content thing. They definitely knew that they would be swapping these angry residents to this new land... So.. What's with the high river banks and lack of parcels with water access? It's not like it's more expensive to drop down a region with more rivers... Their original intention was for no parcels to include water. They began cutting some water/land parcels only as an afterthought when people started to bitch about it. That caused confusion as they labelled them with varying and inconsistent descriptions. Up to the weekend, after they had begun cutting water parcels along the coast, none of the river parcels extended into the water. I notice today that they have recut the parcels along the Southern river to extend into the water. I'm still totally gobsmaked that they handed out the very best coast/water to people who were swapping in from totally land-locked ghettos. These people couldn't organise their way out of a wet paper bag. _____________________
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Scylla Rhiadra
Gentle is Human
Join date: 11 Oct 2008
Posts: 4,427
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06-30-2009 08:24
Interesting. If what I am hearing here is correct (and it seems to me that the actual situation is still far too fuzzy to know for sure), Zindra may well end up wall-to-wall sex and violence?
Wow, that should have some rather interesting implications for the future. Is anyone concerned that competition is going to end up knocking a lot of smaller players out of business, and concentrating the market in the hands of a few bigger or more successful businesses? I can almost foresee a point at which a much depopulated Zindra does, perforce, become more mixed-usage, simply because there won't be enough market share to support a continent stuffed with nothing but adult content. Guess I should be studying this, in case they decide to create a "books only" continent, and I am forced to move to "Librindra."  _____________________
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Couldbe Yue
one unhappy customer
Join date: 30 Mar 2008
Posts: 1,532
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06-30-2009 08:27
I asked this over on slu a fair few hours ago and haven't got one reply yet so I'll ask it here.
Does anyone know of anyone who got the swap who actually followed the process set down by LL *and* used the correct ticket *and* is actually an adult content business? _____________________
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Couldbe Yue
one unhappy customer
Join date: 30 Mar 2008
Posts: 1,532
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06-30-2009 08:29
Guess I should be studying this, in case they decide to create a "books only" continent, and I am forced to move to "Librindra." Cyn said in a press conference that any interest group that wanted to create a specific type of continent would be welcomed (it was art in this case). They firmly believe that having all the content in one place will be good for business.. _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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06-30-2009 08:31
So.. What's with the high river banks and lack of parcels with water access? It's not like it's more expensive to drop down a region with more rivers... The reaction to that was bad enough that they quit cutting that road, leaving the other end of the road laid halfway through Noonkkot until I begged 'em to finish at least that part. Which is why there's a mole still waiting at the bus stop in the middle of the sim. _____________________
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Scylla Rhiadra
Gentle is Human
Join date: 11 Oct 2008
Posts: 4,427
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06-30-2009 08:34
Cyn said in a press conference that any interest group that wanted to create a specific type of continent would be welcomed (it was art in this case). They firmly believe that having all the content in one place will be good for business.. LOL. REALLY? And what marketing genius told them that THAT was a good idea? It also flies in the face of modern RL approaches to urban and community development. Develop that idea further, and SL will be left with nothing but big box stores: "Super BDSM Dungeon Factory Outlet," "Skins R Us," and "SL Book City." _____________________
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sable Valentine
AU United
Join date: 30 Apr 2006
Posts: 1,275
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06-30-2009 08:44
But don't you have to be a mainland owner of a certain amount or something to buy one? That and why not add an another layer of land ownership perhaps one with 1500 prim capacity. Then you do a little bit more with than for example watching water. I'm with Brenda on that one, an entry level of estate ownership should be seriously considered. _____________________
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Shambolic Walkenberg
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Join date: 24 May 2008
Posts: 152
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06-30-2009 08:45
Wow, that should have some rather interesting implications for the future. Is anyone concerned that competition is going to end up knocking a lot of smaller players out of business, and concentrating the market in the hands of a few bigger or more successful businesses? I get the distinct impression the "adult content providers" who LL claim support this have considered this point greatly. They've almost certainly weighed up the cons of losing some customer base, with the pros of removing a great deal of the competition. It's unethical, immoral, and most of all, if it pans out, good business sense. |
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Couldbe Yue
one unhappy customer
Join date: 30 Mar 2008
Posts: 1,532
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06-30-2009 08:48
Develop that idea further, and SL will be left with nothing but big box stores: "Super BDSM Dungeon Factory Outlet," "Skins R Us," and "SL Book City." from a business perspective it's fabulous.. which would you prefer as a business.. small parcels of mixed content each with a premium account with possibly only 512 land (i.e no tier) bothering your support people or large landholders on their own continent.. where the marketers can point to a specific place and go "look how fabulous our exploited and disrespected content creators have made this for us to convince you unsuspecting fools of how enticing our crap platform is!!" and of course support only has to deal with one person rather than a dozen or more.. _____________________
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Lord Sullivan
DTC at all times :)
Join date: 15 Dec 2005
Posts: 2,870
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06-30-2009 08:48
I asked this over on slu a fair few hours ago and haven't got one reply yet so I'll ask it here. Does anyone know of anyone who got the swap who actually followed the process set down by LL *and* used the correct ticket *and* is actually an adult content business? A friend who makes BDSM animations and furniture 4051-6484197 29/6/2009 10:01 AM PDT Zindra Land Request English Solution Provided 30/6/2009 7:34 AM PDT _____________________
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Camthan Hax
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Join date: 6 Apr 2007
Posts: 29
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06-30-2009 08:53
10:04 ticket still showing as new and untouched this morning.
YAY! |
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Storyof Oh
Registered User
Join date: 14 Apr 2007
Posts: 139
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06-30-2009 08:54
Interesting. If what I am hearing here is correct (and it seems to me that the actual situation is still far too fuzzy to know for sure), Zindra may well end up wall-to-wall sex and violence? Wow, that should have some rather interesting implications for the future. Is anyone concerned that competition is going to end up knocking a lot of smaller players out of business, and concentrating the market in the hands of a few bigger or more successful businesses? I can almost foresee a point at which a much depopulated Zindra does, perforce, become more mixed-usage, simply because there won't be enough market share to support a continent stuffed with nothing but adult content.] end Um yes thats WHY the continent was created..to move the sex and violence...and yes we said how about no control over the neighbours? how about xcite next to a L$99 bed place? this move will prove complex enough if they also have to ration content type too. Hopefully like rl..the better quality v price v function etc will see the survival of the fittest...of course if none of our old customers can get to Zindra all bets are off....... |
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samatha Congrejo
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Join date: 10 Apr 2007
Posts: 188
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Update
06-30-2009 08:57
4051-6484226 29/6/2009 10:02 AM PDT (Work In Progress, since 10:07am 29/6)
4051-6484233 29/6/2009 10:02 AM PDT (New) First response at 8:39 pm, to ask for fursther infor mation The second ticket is ours, so by their numbering system....if they did as promised and did first come first served, they as a company only processed 6 linden tickets of any type in 13 hours. Ya right!! Someone looked at ticket 4051-6484226 at 10:07 am and put it in progress. No one looked at our ticket till 8:39 pm. so exactly which tickets where they processing all day?? There are 7 tickets between them. Lets assume they are all land swap which is very unlikely, still they only put 6 tickets in progress in 13 hours. Something smells |
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Meade Paravane
Hedgehog
Join date: 21 Nov 2006
Posts: 4,845
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06-30-2009 09:02
Something smells /me is not convinced. If they open up another round of land so that people who were in on-time but didn't dot some 'i' or cross some 't' or did the wrong ticket type by mistake could still get some decent land, it will work out ok. Or at least not as a disaster. If they don't open up another round of land and force these people to chose from the remaining dregs of crapland, that would be a far less happy scenario. 4051-6484226 29/6/2009 10:02 AM PDT (Work In Progress, since 10:07am 29/6) 4051-6484233 29/6/2009 10:02 AM PDT (New) First response at 8:39 pm, to ask for fursther infor mation The second ticket is ours, so by their numbering system....if they did as promised and did first come first served, they as a company only processed 6 linden tickets of any type in 13 hours. Err.. These two tickets were added at the same minute. The ticket number is generated when you ADD a ticket, not when you update it. /me looks confused. _____________________
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samatha Congrejo
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06-30-2009 09:04
/me is not convinced. If they open up another round of land so that people who were in on-time but didn't dot some 'i' or cross some 't' or did the wrong ticket type by mistake could still get some decent land, it will work out ok. Or at least not as a disaster. If they don't open up another round of land and force these people to chose from the remaining dregs of crapland, that would be a far less happy scenario. hun what i just posted shows is that 6 tickets between the two took 13 hours to process |