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Toy LaFollette
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05-12-2008 19:15
what a fricken yawner.... I need to start a thread with a pole as to who actually cares about this. This is beyond rediculous and becoming extremely funny. Keep up the good work hehehe
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Beezle Warburton
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05-12-2008 19:17
From: Lias Leandros
Well I don't believe you Beezle.


That's okay. I'm sure your scripting skills are as excellent as the building skills you amaze and astound with. ;)
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Beezle Warburton
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05-12-2008 19:18
From: Toy LaFollette
what a fricken yawner.... I need to start a thread with a pole as to who actually cares about this. This is beyond rediculous and becoming extremely funny. Keep up the good work hehehe

I heard there's going to be punch and pie at 1000 posts. :D
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Toy LaFollette
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05-12-2008 19:19
From: Beezle Warburton
I heard there's going to be punch and pie at 1000 posts. :D


I need to keep up then hehe I love pie :)
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Lias Leandros
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05-12-2008 19:19
Off topic again. Right click and edit the prims your talking about. You will not see my name. Again, we have to base these conversations on Facts and collectable data if we are to have a real discussion.
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Chris Norse
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05-12-2008 19:19
From: Lias Leandros
Well I don't believe you Beezle. And stay on topic please or start a thread about notecard givers. Te parcel will continue to change as we find ways to best deal with the loitering issue in the infohub. The Lindens will let us knwo if we step over the line and we will make adjustments. But we will be right up on said line at all times until the loitering stops.



Now she is the Forum Police along with being the infohub Nazi.
Beezle Warburton
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05-12-2008 19:20
From: Chris Norse
Now she is the Forum Police along with being the infohub Nazi.


Hey, she pays tier and has a mentor alt, so you should listen to her.
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05-12-2008 19:21
From: Chris Norse
Now she is the Forum Police along with being the infohub Nazi.


It's a hoot hehe
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Toy LaFollette
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05-12-2008 19:22
From: Beezle Warburton
Hey, she pays tier and has a mentor alt, so you should listen to her.


Last time I listened to a mentor I found they knew less than I did :)
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Kuroyanagi Habsburg
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05-12-2008 19:40
From: Lias Leandros
The 67th poster explained this That is why they were gathering in the street yesterday - to lower the traffic in the InfoHub. All Linden Lab has to do is make the Hub accessible to the new players it was intended for only and the Infohub goes back to what it was in 2006 - a portal for new residents to explore the sim and get information from the prim info givers there.


Blah blah blah blah. All you need to do is find a new place for your three clubs and your club school. How's about getting that island back?

This is a prime example of Liars making things up (again!) We go to the street to use scripted objects. Someone was showing someone how her new scripted cat worked or wore his scripted horse or activated his scripted dance hud.

Your facts are always made up.

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Lias Leandros
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05-12-2008 20:02
From: Kuroyanagi Habsburg
This is a prime example of Liars making things up (again!) We go to the street to use scripted objects. Someone was showing someone how her new scripted cat worked or wore his scripted horse or activated his scripted dance hud.

Your facts are always made up.
Dancing and horse back riding are not really things that need to be done in infohubs. I had taken the guy on the horse to purchase that horse and then to the sim Botanical to ride the trails. There are many places to do things and chat. One sim infohubs were never intended for any of these things. Once you and your group accept that the problem is solved.
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Sarah Nerd
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05-12-2008 21:08
From: Lias Leandros
Sarah wake up. The notecard goes out when someone enters our parcel. As many commercial parcels do. If you feel spammed hit the 'discard' button and keep your distance. And in two years we never had a notegiver. We always liked a nice quiet sim. But if the infohub is going to remain the back parking lot of the 7-11 we are going to have notecard givers, free guns, dancepads and whatever else falls within the TOS we want to put on our parcels. I am no longer making loiterers comfortable while they abuse the resources I pay for.

Your not goin to get any cheap land out of this controversy. Move on down the road.



Meow!! Sorry baby, but your not fooling anyone. Your lower then those your accusing as proven by your own actions. Bitch the night away because you obviously aren't interested in any real solutions that are available to you.

But you pay tier, you pay tier, you pay tier. Well guess what honey we all do, but I don't see LL jumping when any of the rest of us say jump, and you know damn well they won't take down there own info hub, and they shouldn't. Suck it up, or move. Just stop your little hissy fit. LL isn't wronging you by helping residents.

And I'm not expecting to get your cheap land, just basically trying to point out that you have something valuable that most people would love to have and your just treating it like total shit when you should appreciate it. And I PAY A LOT OF TIER!!! But oddly enough LL doesn't cater to me.

Now where's that "drama queen" emicon when we need it, I'd like to use it when she pulls apart this post sentence by sentence with the same irrational phrases she has used the whole thread.
Lias Leandros
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05-12-2008 21:38
From: Sarah Nerd
Meow!! Sorry baby, but your not fooling anyone. Your lower then those your accusing as proven by your own actions. Bitch the night away because you obviously aren't interested in any real solutions that are available to you.
Sarah your in no position to tell me the only options available to me.

But you pay tier, you pay tier, you pay tier. Well guess what honey we all do, but I don't see LL jumping when any of the rest of us say jump, and you know damn well they won't take down there own info hub, and they shouldn't. Suck it up, or move. Just stop your little hissy fit. LL isn't wronging you by helping residents. [/QUOTE]Ignoring the points made in the thread don't make them go away. The loiterers are not new players in need of help. They are seasoned loiterers. Infoubs were placed in mainland sims for new players to rez and get acclimated. Not as chat zones for residents with nothing better to do. Torley Linden did not ask me did I want the defunct telehub land to be a unsupervised chat zone for loiterers and greifers. I would, of course, declined the offer.

And I'm not expecting to get your cheap land, just basically trying to point out that you have something valuable that most people would love to have and your just treating it like total shit when you should appreciate it. And I PAY A LOT OF TIER!!! But oddly enough LL doesn't cater to me.[/QUOTE] Then your not a very bright customer. I do expect customer service and adhering to agreements when I pay a company for services. You need to stop RPing with your service provider. Once you do you will realize that LL is nothing but a corp. with people in cubicles making bizarre decisions and then back peddling to cover their asses.

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Now where's that "drama queen" emicon when we need it, I'd like to use it when she pulls apart this post sentence by sentence with the same irrational phrases she has used the whole thread.
Well pull it out because here we go: The Infohub traffic was good for parcels in the sim up to July 2007. After that this chat group and greifers took over the infohub. The traffic numbers prove that the excessive loitering in the infohub does not translate into traffic for the surrounding parcels. Again, I am basing everything on data and facts. Your just stirring the pot for no apparent reason.
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Isablan Neva
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05-12-2008 21:45
This thread has turned into a land war in Asia.......
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Macphisto Angelus
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05-12-2008 21:49
From: Isablan Neva
This thread has turned into a land war in Asia.......


The war in Jesse is upon us.
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05-12-2008 21:58
From: Macphisto Angelus
The war in Jesse is upon us.


Maybe. Also, I hear free accounts will make more furries.
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Viktoria Dovgal
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05-12-2008 22:30
From: Oryx Tempel
Just FYI... I voted for this when it was originally aimed only at Bear. I am removing my vote from this issue because there are many Infohubs that actually are helpful and not annoying to the sim co-owners.

Thanks, a change like that would be a disappointment to the tier payers who want our infohubs.

The whole controversy is ridiculous, the quoted "promise" about roles for different infohubs is hypothetical language from an old request for proposals, not a policy statement in any way, shape or form. And tellingly, that much-bandied RFP ( http://secondlife.com/community/commonsproposal.php ) didn't mention new residents at all. The knowledge base makes no such distinction between big and small infohubs, so where is this fabled policy?
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Oryx Tempel
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05-12-2008 23:09
From: Isablan Neva
This thread has turned into a land war in Asia.......

I think she's got an overdeveloped sense of vengeance. It's going to get her in trouble someday.
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Kuroyanagi Habsburg
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05-12-2008 23:24
From: Lias Leandros
Dancing and horse back riding are not really things that need to be done in infohubs. I had taken the guy on the horse to purchase that horse and then to the sim Botanical to ride the trails. There are many places to do things and chat. One sim infohubs were never intended for any of these things. Once you and your group accept that the problem is solved.


Blah Blah Blah.

What about your falsehood that people were chatting in the street to alter the sim traffic ranking? You did not address the fact that you were presenting your opinion as "fact" and "data" -- yet again.

Like you're doing with your silly misconception that one is not supposed to socialize in an Secondlife--it's a social tool. We're allowed, despite how you may falsely harp your interpretation of some old outdated definition. If you don't like being in an Infohub sim, move. It's very simple to move a build in second life and I'll gladly help you move prims and advertise your new location for you.

No. We're only allowed there if we're paying you money for (c) infringing band logo tees or to paying for your classes. It's all about the money with you.

If you continue to harass us, then I'll report you like I did for that DOS attack stunt you tried to pull with those camping bots/chairs. (And I recognize some of those bots that you had used before to try to build up the traffic rating for your land.)

But I'm wasting my typing, it's totally useless trying to communicate with a broken record.
Tegg Bode
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05-12-2008 23:28
From: Beezle Warburton
Hey, she pays tier and has a mentor alt, so you should listen to her.

Hmm this explains all the mentors leaving the mentor group due to too much drama.
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05-12-2008 23:37
From: Lias Leandros
As I said Tegg, I invested my tier here for three years on this server. My investment far out-weights yours for this server (since you have made none). I have had to put up with being blocked off of the server where my content is several times in the last ten months.

The traffic at the infohub is usually over 11,000 a day. Traffic at the bikini shop was 24 yesterday. LOITERING AT THE INFOHUB DOES NOT TRANSLATE INTO TRAFFIC FOR THE SIM. Saying that it does is a blatant lie. The Lindens can see that at this same time last year the same parcels surrounding the Infohub had 6 times the traffic they have now. The numbers also prove that as the infohub loitering increased the traffic for the surrounding parcels decreased. These are FACTS.

One sim infohubs are for new players - they are not open chat zones for everyone. And if you choose to use it for that purpose at my inconvience I will no longer concern myself with your comfort level.. Deal with it or go find another sleepy sim to victimize.

Ohh nasty now aren't we, like your drama warm I guess, well the road seems to be pulling a pretty decent traffic, maybe the shops need to up their game, all the photochopped 9-11 conspiricy bullcrap doesn't pull sales, well just live with ot , get out or go find another infohub to pick on.

11:35pm 5 avatars in whole sim 2 in the guns shop building, one in bikini shop, one in infohub and one on road.
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Marianne McCann
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05-12-2008 23:43
From: Macphisto Angelus
The war in Jesse is upon us.


I jes read dat chapter in Hamlet Au's book. You may be right!

From: Oryx Tempel
I think she's got an overdeveloped sense of vengeance. It's going to get her in trouble someday.


There *are* times when you realize dat yer fighting a losing battle, and you simply move on. Or, you stay stuck in a constant state of battle, and lose whatever is left of your soul.

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05-13-2008 00:12
From: Marianne McCann
I jes read dat chapter in Hamlet Au's book. You may be right!


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05-13-2008 00:37
From: Lias Leandros


And this is what this ever-expanding group does on daily basis. Lie to new players and tell them the Infohub was put there for them to chat. When I inform these new players fo the 43 avatar limit they are truly shocked.


Sorry Spammer, 1st I am since 6/06 not new! I did come and visit till LL kicked us all, I sat on the wall and I think 'Kuroyanagi Habsburg" was there ( I may be wrong) but there were about 8 I didn't count but about 8 no one inside just in the "meet and greet area!" yes thats what it is Lias! get over it!
and nothing bad just some text chat, a little voip chat silly stuff like the teen grid( yep I have 2 teens in there :O) and basic banter, no effect on getting in, no issue for your dance camp spam sH*t so get off your horse and buy a pvt sim you have a year on me, and should have made you $ and re invested, if you didn't well your fault not LL not ours!

its a PUBLIC landing point!

man I am on a rage tonight!!!!!!!
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05-13-2008 02:23
From: Lias Leandros
Off topic again. Right click and edit the prims your talking about. You will not see my name. Again, we have to base these conversations on Facts and collectable data if we are to have a real discussion.




"An object named Girls Like Guns owned by Lias Leandros has given you . . ."

69,103,106 (where I was standing)isn't on your/Ryan's parcel, BTW.

Anyhow, not feeling the love in this thread, time to move on.

To the rest of you: things like in-world "mute" and forum "ignore user" can lead to a more peaceful existence.
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