Mainland Sim Full: Who Is To Blame?

Yes, I don't even get this really. I understand it's not fair and all, but it's really a no-brainer.

Move. There's tons of land available. Why are you so opposed to moving?

Sorry, that would interfere with the "no-non-mentors" policy that's trying to be enforced at this infohub. It could possibly be enforced elsewhere by pestering people to leave and hideous builds, but our friend only has so much time and resources , so Bear is sort of a launching point for this. Be prepared to welcome your Ad-Lot Overlords, for once the "cleansing" is complete at Bear, they will be expanding their remit to other infohubs.

And your trafficbots deserve to get kicked when they are keeping real residents out, I pay my tier every month too and if I want to be able to rez my avatar at his birthplace I have the right to without you banning him.
1:20am 3 avatars in the whole sim, one is in Lias club and 2 at the infohub.
It's simple just move, or enjoy your next 20 years of drama quietly

What I don't get is is your continued insistence that avatars over 30 years old are, by definition, "abusing" the infohub. Infohubs are for everyone. You can't use this as an argument unless the definition of an infohub changes.

I would hate it if an infohub turned up in my home sim and prevented me from accessing it. But you know what? I would take a loss on my land and move to somewhere that didn't have an infohub. It's the mainland. That's what happens. It sucks, but your next neighbor might be a sex club or laggy dance place, or just a nasty, hateful person who makes it unpleasant to visit your SL home.

If you don't like it, why on earth are you staying? And when someone specifically says "hey, contact me, I may know a buyer" you blow them off. This isn't about accessing your land. This is about your trying to strong-arm LL into closing an infohub. That's a losing battle, and I think you're looking the wrong place for people to take up arms and storm the castle with you.

As I said Tegg, I invested my tier here for three years on this server. My investment far out-weights yours for this server (since you have made none). I have had to put up with being blocked off of the server where my content is several times in the last ten months.

The traffic at the infohub is usually over 11,000 a day. Traffic at the bikini shop was 24 yesterday. LOITERING AT THE INFOHUB DOES NOT TRANSLATE INTO TRAFFIC FOR THE SIM. Saying that it does is a blatant lie. The Lindens can see that at this same time last year the same parcels surrounding the Infohub had 6 times the traffic they have now. The numbers also prove that as the infohub loitering increased the traffic for the surrounding parcels decreased. These are FACTS.

One sim infohubs are for new players - they are not open chat zones for everyone. And if you choose to use it for that purpose at my inconvience I will no longer concern myself with your comfort level.. Deal with it or go find another sleepy sim to victimize.

Of course she won't sell she loves the drama, or is trying to get the infohub closed just so she can buy the land out.

The definition has never changed - just the interpretation of it.
Larger, 4-sim infohubs are for gathering and socializing. The distinction would have not been made if it weren't to be adhered to.


I think you need to read the first post - this thread was never about that. I know it is a hassle to read through a long thread - but it is wise to do so before commenting.

If Linden Lab decided to make it night only on your continent I am sure you would just quietly pack up and move. And some others would not accept it and vigorously seek change back to what they bought into.

Torley Linden came to me in 2006 and said that the defunct telehub land could be sold or could be made into a place for NEW PLAYERS TO ENTER THE MAINLAND. For a year that is what it was. Hopefully Linden Lab will decide to stick to the agreement they made and we will see light at the end of this tunnel. Or not and we will all remain in this dark place for quite some time.

You're not gonna let us leave the thread?

Does this show some show find "LIGHT" Or a "LIFE"??????????

I don't think it's about that. The way I read it, it's all about "I was here first, and I have rights because of that". That's not the way SL works, Lias.

Exit the tread to the left in an ordely fashion please.

Thanks for your condescending suggestion, Lias. As it happens, I've been reading this thread from the beginning. I've only finally said something because I saw that you were rejecting every solution suggested to you.


Actually, I think I'd like that. but that's beside the point. It's called "pick your battles." Personally, I would save my energy instead of jousting at windmills like this one.


You're remaining in "this dark place" by choice, Lias. That's what's perplexing. But you certainly have a right to do so.

It was my mistake in thinking that you came to this forum to talk about this issue because you were looking for answers or solutions. That's what is generally done here in "Resident Answers." But you just want to vent and complain. I get it. Rock on. One less thread I need to keep up with.

It is about I was here first and then Linden Lab asked did we want a place for new people to enter the mainland into the sim. A year later it's the back parking lot at 7-11. With the same amount of peace disturbances and over crowding.

LL needs to fix the problem.

Well my suggestion would have helped you not repeat what was already written. In the first thread it was written by me

I believe it has been proven you have not kept up. My question to resident answers was:

There are several public Help islands to funnel downed sim traffic to. It is not a necessity to send 40 people to a one-sim infohub tat only holds 43 avatars at once when the asset server hiccups. That policy has already been proven to be stupid.

For a year the infohub was used as it was intended for. Then people with a more bizarre sense of entitlement than mine decided that this would be their chat parcel. They would pay nothing and increase their numbers with no regard for sim resources or tier payers in the sim. Your fake quotes don't make you right. I base my arguments on FACTS and traffic metrics.

Abuse the resources I share with the Linden Land and you are going to hear about it.

Funny Lias, when I was by there yesterday, the biggest crowd was in the street in front of the hub. You were right in the middle of them.

Those quotes aren't fake. I'll make sure I have fraps running the next time you decide to tell one of my alts to shove off.

Last night around 7SLT(I think,not sure of the time) there was about 35 there. A little under a half were in the info hub,a few scattered and the rest on her land. Go figure.

It still amounts to "I was here first and I have rights because of that", and it's still not how SL works.

That is kinda what I'm suspecting here.

There's no real good answer to be had. You resent the infohub being established in Bear, and have resorted to strong arm tactics to try and make people using the infohub as unwelcome as possible. Many have stopped by the infohub over the weekend to check out the location, to find little of what was reported about the location (it's no Waterhead nor is it an Ahern). It appears as if there is nothing that would make the OP happy aside from the closure of the infohub and potential sale of its land. This seems unlikely. It also feels as if few here are willing to support same.

I'm sorry, Lias, but it seems like your options here are small:

* Wait and hope that somewhere long down the line the infohubs go away, that one is closed, or the infohub becomes less used (which it doesn't see too heavily used now). This could require a long time investment. Right now LL is making a committment to mainland, and -- if anything -- could mean *more* traffic and goings on at infohubs, not less.

* Try a different location. Yes, it would be unfortunate to have to move after a lengthy stay in Bear -- but maybe this is a good time to move on. It's clear that you are not getting a lot of popular support on efforts to close the Bear infohub, and if this is impeding whatever plans you have -- then I'm sure there are other places where you will find the way easier. There's a LOT of land to be hand in Gaeta. You'e had a couple people on this thread who have suggested buying our your space in Bear. WHy not take one of those offers, find some fresh land (you could probably even get more m2 out of the deal!), and do what you wish to do. Frankly, you could be in a lot worse shape.

Doing what you're doing now, however, doesn't seem good for the folks at the hub *or* you or your business. It's just not healthy. All the stress over a game (yes, I know "platform" just isn't worth it, is it?

Mari
(One resident's answer)

This thread is a good example of why people should be thankful I'm not a secret Linden.

If you really are one can I have god mode for about an hour? Please?

Complete lies. Have fun.

Mari while you were thereyou should have checked the traffic on the parcels. The numbers don't lie. 11,000 traffic for the Infohub. T-shirt shop 388 Traffic, Car dealership 27 Traffic and the Ass Gallery (don't ask) a whopping 42 Traffic. My parcel is over 96 meters away from the telehub and I have events so my traffic is 4500. Blocking people from attending parties I don't care about. Blocking people from attending training programs they paid for I care alot about.

The obvious conclusion is that the excessive loitering in the infohub has killed the traffic for the parcels around it. These same parcels had very high traffic this time last year. I am truly amazed to see how many people are wearing blinders while responding to this issue. I have a definite chance of proving breach of contract because of the documented traffic metrics.

[/QUOTE]There's a LOT of land to be hand in Gaeta. You'e had a couple people on this thread who have suggested buying our your space in Bear. WHy not take one of those offers, find some fresh land (you could probably even get more m2 out of the deal!), and do what you wish to do. Frankly, you could be in a lot worse shape.