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Raymond Figtree
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02-19-2008 10:47
From: Connor Jun
Good. Because Humans humping horses isn't normal.

Divorce Court Judge: "The defendant did commit an adulterous act with a sheep - most distasteful in view of the fact that the sheep was under 18 years old."
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Connor Jun
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02-19-2008 10:48
From: Travis Lambert
Connor - dude, let it go. You're not making any new points, and you're no more convincing others of your point, than others are convincing you of theirs.


I don't really care what other people think. So convincing others isn't much of a priority.

From: Travis Lambert

Meanwhile, Mari's original question that has absolutely nothing to do with Ageplay, Bestiality, or even Vegitable-sex has wandered so far off the rails we're going to need a hazmat team to recover the trainwreck. :o


It does have something to do with Bestiality. Since thats that is the neighbor's thing. The best thing to probably do is tell the neighbors she can read their text and see them when they are having sex and would rather that was not the case.

Hopefully as long as they aren't into Bestiality and Exhibitionism they will be willing to tone that down.
Dekka Raymaker
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02-19-2008 10:50
From: Connor Jun
Good. Because Humans humping horses isn't normal.

actually isn't it usually the horses doing the humping? whats that saying "you can lead a horse to a well…?
Rioko Bamaisin
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02-19-2008 10:53
To me, it is most certainly my business if adults want to have sex with a non consenting,helpless animal in RL. They are no different than children in that regard.IMO.

Having said that though. SL is a completely different animal.(heh) Those are not real animals,those are not real children..There is no real harm being done to anyone. It may completely disgust me,but minding by own business is the correct course of action to take in SL.
Chris Norse
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02-19-2008 11:01
From: Dekka Raymaker
actually isn't it usually the horses doing the humping? whats that saying "you can lead a horse to a well…?


This is a few years old, but.......ewwwww

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1739698,00.html

San Francisco - A man died of internal injuries from sex with a stallion at a ranch used by a bestiality ring, police in the northwestern United States state of Washington said on Monday.
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Tod69 Talamasca
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02-19-2008 11:03
I saw that video! :eek:

Looked quite painful (and a stupid thing to do!)
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02-19-2008 11:05
What's this 'normal' thing is everyone talking about? Is it a freebie? (^_^)

NEWAYS! ... Noisy neighbors in SL are probably like noisy neighbors in RL. I say send a notecard to the owner's profile with as civil a message as possible. I treat notecards like snailmail and it's just like writing a letter. It will be read differently than chat or IM.

Even as a homeless noobie I've found that goes a long way in some situations. I was able to rescue someone from being heavily harassed and griefed by a "Police" member once. They were so stuck in chat with this person, IMs went nowhere. (=_=)

Then... If they really are unreasonable, you can call the cross-parcel visible and open chat stuff "disturbing the peace" in your AR. (^_^)y
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Cristalle Karami
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02-19-2008 11:07
There is a difference between normal, as in common, and normal, as in acceptable. That said, the original post of thread has nothing to do with either concept, and explicitly said so.
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Tod69 Talamasca
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02-19-2008 11:07
Oh! And just in case you have a bizarre morbid interest in the whole "Beastiality" thing, I present a nice link to a Zoophile FAQ, which includes nice tidbits of info on things like 'Dolphin Sex'.

http://www.zoophile.net/

Puts "Flipper" in a whole new perspective!!! :D
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Ann Launay
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02-19-2008 11:10
From: Connor Jun
Good. Because Humans humping horses isn't normal.


And no one is doing that in SL. They *may* be humping a horse-shaped pile of prims with their (maybe) human-shaped pile of pixelated polygons, or vice-versa, but it isn't the same as doing it in RL.

Other potentially 'not normal' things in SL: flying, teleporting, and floating houses; no need to breathe, eat, or eliminate; dragons, anthropomorphic animals, and Neko; four hour days and the ability to control the sun; dragging otherwise naked sex slaves through stores in chains; the ability to change appearance on a whim, including slider manipulation and the purchase of hair and skin; and so on and so forth.

I think the faux-bestiality is pretty odd myself, but the people who partake are not hurting anyone, so I don't see why the rest of us should care.
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Broccoli Curry
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02-19-2008 11:10
From: Har Fairweather
1. What other people do with their pixels is their problem, as long as the don't interfere with others


The whole thread started because what "someone was doing with their pixels" did interfere with another person's enjoyment of their own land (by being able to hear the goings-on).

Surely it doesn't take a lot of common sense for someone to put something that many people would find objectionable (and I can't believe that they wouldn't think someone would) out of the way, up in the air or something, where it won't infringe on other people's ability to make full use of their land without being offended.

It is the right of a person to be offended by someone's actions, rather than the right of someone to act offensively, that should always take precedence.
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Bradley Bracken
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02-19-2008 11:12
Why am I not surprised that once this thread got bogged into the subject of bestiality it grew dramatically faster than any topic on the first two pages. Up to 185 posts now.
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02-19-2008 11:14
From: Bradley Bracken
Why am I not surprised that once this thread got bogged into the subject of bestiality it grew dramatically faster than any topic on the first two pages. Up to 185 posts now.


We do love our tangents. ;)

But, really, I think the question was answered. All Mari can really do is talk to the neighbors and see if they're willing to work with her on the issues.
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Colette Meiji
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02-19-2008 11:16
From: Bradley Bracken
Why am I not surprised that once this thread got bogged into the subject of bestiality it grew dramatically faster than any topic on the first two pages. Up to 185 posts now.


I think people are concerned about more activities being banned so are going after those against pretend animal sex.

Of course I'm not sure that Broccoli and Connor and the rest are advocating banning animal sex in SL.

They seem to be more saying its wrong.

Some have argued it should be banned like sexual ageplay is but those have only been 2-3 posts.
Chris Norse
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02-19-2008 11:17
From: Broccoli Curry
The whole thread started because what "someone was doing with their pixels" did interfere with another person's enjoyment of their own land (by being able to hear the goings-on).

Surely it doesn't take a lot of common sense for someone to put something that many people would find objectionable (and I can't believe that they wouldn't think someone would) out of the way, up in the air or something, where it won't infringe on other people's ability to make full use of their land without being offended.

It is the right of a person to be offended by someone's actions, rather than the right of someone to act offensively, that should always take precedence.


No, you have it totally wrong, there is no right to not be offended. Yes, the horse lovers should move their operations 20m from the border or take it to IM. But this concept that the offended should have more rights then everyone else is ridiculous. Mari's best option might be to start muting everyone that visits the next door plot and put up a screen so she doesn't have to see it.
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Colette Meiji
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02-19-2008 11:18
From: Ann Launay
We do love our tangents. ;)

But, really, I think the question was answered. All Mari can really do is talk to the neighbors and see if they're willing to work with her on the issues.


No one liked my forums cartel bestiality debate within earshot of her neighbors while they were having sex idea.

*pouts*
Broccoli Curry
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02-19-2008 11:23
From: Chris Norse
No, you have it totally wrong, there is no right to not be offended.


Whose rights take precedence then? The normal, or the perverted?
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02-19-2008 11:30
From: Broccoli Curry
Whose rights take precedence then? The normal, or the perverted?


Tell us Broccoli, define perverted. Define normal. Are furries normal? Is having sex thru a hole in a sheet normal? How about requiring women to cover themselves except for their eyes? Is that normal? Should gays stay in the closet?

As for rights taking precedence, if you don't like something, it is ultimately up to you to make sure you don't see or hear it. Screens and the mute button go a long way to fix this.
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Bradley Bracken
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02-19-2008 11:33
From: Chris Norse
Tell us Broccoli, define perverted. Define normal. Are furries normal? Is having sex thru a hole in a sheet normal? How about requiring women to cover themselves except for their eyes? Is that normal? Should gays stay in the closet?

As for rights taking precedence, if you don't like something, it is ultimately up to you to make sure you don't see or hear it. Screens and the mute button go a long way to fix this.


I once had sex in a closet with a gay furry through a hole in a sheet who was covered except for the eyes.

Am I normal?
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02-19-2008 11:35
From: Bradley Bracken
I once had sex in a closet with a gay furry through a hole in a sheet who was covered except for the eyes.

Am I normal?


Ask Broccoli, I really don't care what you do as long as it isn't in my living room.
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Dekka Raymaker
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02-19-2008 11:36
you didn't mention fruit
Colette Meiji
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02-19-2008 11:37
From: Chris Norse
Tell us Broccoli, define perverted. Define normal. Are furries normal? Is having sex thru a hole in a sheet normal? How about requiring women to cover themselves except for their eyes? Is that normal? Should gays stay in the closet?

As for rights taking precedence, if you don't like something, it is ultimately up to you to make sure you don't see or hear it. Screens and the mute button go a long way to fix this.


Well sex should involve all the participants being able to give informed consent.

So RL bestiality is a problem. But Online Cyber Bestiality cant really exist since there are no animals surfing the web chatting with people.

RL Children cybering is an issue since they are able to participate - but they are not capable of informed consent due to being underage.

Furries are just people under the suit. IRL and Online. They may say they feel differently about it, but practicality wise thats all it is.
Tod69 Talamasca
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02-19-2008 11:40
Well.... if Mari asks politely I'm sure the new neighbors would move things around a bit.

If all else fails, she could also remind them that, since she's a child avatar, and quite well known around SL, it might look bad for the new neighbors to have their lil' farm nearby. ;)
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Broccoli Curry
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02-19-2008 11:43
From: Chris Norse
Tell us Broccoli, define perverted. Define normal. Are furries normal? Is having sex thru a hole in a sheet normal? How about requiring women to cover themselves except for their eyes? Is that normal? Should gays stay in the closet?


Cultural norms are based on what the majority of people in your country do.

In the middle east, culture requires women to be fully covered and not allowed out in public unless with a male relative. That's just how things are there.

In the US, where Linden Lab is based, it is not general culture to require women to be fully covered in public (even though I can think of a few cases where this might have been advantageous) although to those from countries where it is, they still do.

However, I do not know of ONE country in the entire world where regularly having sex with animals is considered part of everyday culture and normal behaviour to the majority of the population. Do you?
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02-19-2008 11:49
From: Colette Meiji
No one liked my forums cartel bestiality debate within earshot of her neighbors while they were having sex idea.

*pouts*


I love the idea. Maybe we can throw snowballs at them while they're doing it. Or bales of hay.

I agree with everyone else, that Mari's best bet is to have a nice chat with the neighbor and see if they can work it out. Most people are pretty reasonable and want to be good neighbors. If I had a build that was bothering a nieghbor, I'd do everything I could to fix the problem (although a build of this sort wouldn't exist on my land, that's for sure).
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