The new neighbors...

i have played world of warcraft before. and i do consider myself to be a gamer. maybe she picked up on that when i begin talking about violence in video games.

Wow .. so she has WOWdar?

Sounds like I am lucky I have no idea what the heck you are talking about.

wow youre a bit of an ass arent you? you were recooping from an injury so of course youre exempt from the "people with no life" category right? lol youre some piece of work lady. good job alienating every gamer who reads this forum.

Quoted for being unintentionally too funny to ignore. Especially considering the forum av picture. Hopefully it's all unrelated.

Well since I have a real life and am not 12-24 years old I am exempt. had it not been for my injury and being at home alot, I doubt I would even heard of WOW.

Glad to alienate arrogant punks who have no life. My little contribution to humanity. Now go kill some kittens in Silvermoon.

you dont even know anything about me and you assume im in the 12-24 age demo. and im not even in that age demographic.

you assume i play world of warcraft which i do not. i said i have played it before.

actually, you know what? keep talking. youre making yourself look like a complete ass.

its no wonder someone who makes such wild assumptions about my rl would also make the same type of bizarre paranoid outlandish assumptions about roleplay in second life or anything else you happen to be discussing on this forum. Please continue with your judgemental accustations and self righteousness.

I saw all I needed to know reading your posts and replies on this thread, whatever your age is.

any other arrogant/rude personal attacks? or are you finished?

How DARE you. How fucking DARE you. I can't even believe you'd compare some little pixelated battles to a RL issue that happens to RL soldiers who are actively trying to stay ALIVE IN REAL LIFE. Jesus lady. You are seriously deluded.

Do some research.

Although this just scratches the surface, here is a link to a PDF file from the AMA

http://psychcentral.com/blog/images/csaph12a07.pdf



In addition if you search you will find that research hooking people up to all kinds of devices that monitor the body, show that the body does NOT know the difference---especially in kids and young people. Changes in brain chemistry and other key indicators.

Go to war.

EVERYBODY PLEASE TAKE THE FLAMES INTO PRIVATE IM'S.

Trust me: No-one wants to read the flames but the flamers.

I miss Strife.

You aren't seriously going to try to justify your position with an Iraq war veteran are you?

I've never been to war, but I watched my father spend every day of his life dealing with the pain he brought back from Vietnam. It haunted him right up to the day he died about two years ago (of a lifetime of complications from Agent Orange exposure, BTW).

WOW does not equal war. Not even close. I've no doubt it causes stress and pain and heartache, but it isn't even in the same category as war-related battle stress.

I am talking about biological changes already found to exist in heavily addicted war-gamers, especially young people. The body does not know the difference in the really intense gaming. It is in fact a battle simulator. Add to that the young person who is playing 10 hours a day, under extremeley heavy competition and peer pressure.

I have played Warcraft with young people who developed seizures who had no history of epilepsy and some that began severe depression and suicidal talk, with no prior history. Some in the newspapers have killed themselves over it. I have heard total meltdowns personally and known young people who were institutionalized over it. I am not saying all people who play these games will reac6t this way, but some do and it is very real. They exhibit all the clinical signs of battle fatigue. This is not just my opinion.

domestic violence and severe child abuse can also cause shell shock and post traumatic stress disorder.

Kill Kel'Thuzad

whats youre point? do you even have one? or are you just trying to offend as many people as possible in one thread?

Link? if you can't provide evidence, you are just talking from your.........well I normally don't speak that way in front of a female.

Clearly you really aren't even trying to see the point I am making. Your replies above are made as though you didn't even read what i said.

What exactly are you defending?

My neighbor Cletus finally found a safe way to indulge in his fetish. Guess he got tired of getting repeatedly kicked in the head....

I posted a link to a PDF file above, but there is plenty of information online if you search "game-addiction"

Of course. And I'm sure we agree that those do not equal WoW related stress.

Rebecca - you still aren't close. Biological changes in heavily addicted war gamers do not equal the sorts stress related issues that soldiers bring back from the war. To compare the stress that a soldier undergoes when they spend 24 hours a day for months on end sleeping in the dirt, fearing for their lives, watching their friends die and having to make the life-altering decision to take another human life time and time again to the stress that a WoW player undergoes playing a computer game is extremely insulting and disrespectful to the soldier. If you want to argue that games like WoW have been shown to cause chemical changes in the body amongst intense users and may lead to stress related illnesses as a result, then that's an argument I'll agree with. But to compare it to real life battle stress? No way.

You are the one making the claim, it is upon you to provide the proof. Killing an animated orc is not the same as taking a human life, it never will be.

By the way, your PDF does not back up your claim that video games equate to life on the battlefield.