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Ricardo Harris
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02-18-2008 22:59
From: Jessica Elytis
Most landowners in SL are reasonable.

Good luck, Mari
~Jessy





Most? Most? And you also threw in the word reasonable? Nice sense of humor you have there.





To op: Ban the entire lot. Put up security to send their butts on a nice trip if they ever come on your land again if you don't wish to put up ban lines.
Case closed. No more problems.
Ricardo Harris
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02-18-2008 23:03
From: Puppet Shepherd
In most states in the U.S., bestiality is a violation of animal cruelty laws, which are sometimes a felony. The animal is essentially being raped and injured. However, since these are prim virtual animals, they probably wouldn't be covered. Where's PETA when you need them?

Think about this - these people moved their stable of animal torture right up next to what they must have known was a child role-play situation. They obviously don't give a flip about the neighbors. Sure, you could try talking to them, but sometimes trying to reason with a sociopath makes the situation worse because then they try to annoy you. Of course, if they retaliate, you can file an abuse report on them. In the meantime, a big wall and a security orb should do the trick nicely.

Oh one more thing - Mari, is this on mainland or on an estate? If it's an estate, you could try to get the estate owner to intervene.




Exactly. But don't tell this to people who deal in animal avies or who mix human and animals, furries or even Nekos. All hell will break loose if you do as they feel they're exempt.

PETA has the right idea but they're a bunch of clowns.
Swan Legend
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02-18-2008 23:04
From: Elgyfu Wishbringer
Erm, and SL child avvies are not really children.

If people seeing images of cartoon children having sex (but knowing they are adults in real life) is banned in SL, why is cartoon people having sex with animals (again knowing this isn't real) allowed? Surely animals are not able to consent to sex any more than children (in real life, of course).

I was really shocked to discover that bestility appears to be allowed in SL. Here in Britain it is viewed as a serious offence. It appears to be illegal in many places.

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/sex13.htm

Normally I say 'each to his own', and yes, if you really want to live in a PG environment then you probably should live in a PG sim. But bestiality, in my book, is rather in the same catagory as child porn - definately not something to be encouraged.



youre right thank you for making my no1 point on the forum for me. its all pixels. all the same whether small cartoon avatars or fur covered avatars or blood sucking avatars or tied up avatars or whatever avatars. and NONE of it should be banned. thank you for making my point for me.

and its people like Elgyfu Wishbringer who want to sanitize the entire grid and turn it into Disneyland where she never has to see or hear about anything that offends her delicate sensibilities. only problem with that is she doesnt hafta see or participate in any of it anyway!

so instead of minding her own business she wants to tell all the other grown ups what they can and can not do that isnt hurting anybody at all. Yes please lets get rid of all the nekos. And everyone else, then Elgyfu can sit all alone on the grid talking to herself when shes rid the world of all the undesirable types.

and notice how in her post she says this :

Surely animals are not able to consent to sex any more than children (in real life, of course).

in real life of course. hello? hello? second life isnt real life. :(((!!!!
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02-18-2008 23:13
From: Oryx Tempel
LOL! I had a little piece of property a while back... the neighbor and his wife were constantly having sex in open chat (in their house, so I couldn't see, but could hear them) and after a couple of sessions where I would interject stuff like "hey buddy, you might try (a naughty suggestion) to get her off..." etc, they took it all to IM. We lived happily ever after that, and they ended up selling me the parcel when they moved, at a great price because we all got along after that.

some peole JUST dont realize you can hear them. truly its the best way. they ALL take it im after that.
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02-18-2008 23:20
This is the same as every other neighborly dispute. I believe the answers have been:

1. talk to the neighbor and see if it can be solved between you two
2. move away to a new location
3. wait until they leave
4. put up walls to screen them out
Tegg Bode
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02-19-2008 00:08
Hmm well, I suspect you should ask your questions about what the neigbour is doing to the horse to your parents instead of the forums :)
Seriously, if you find this a problem, whether it's beastiallity or just BDSM or sexchat in general, you should consider moving to a PG sim or island as even if this one leaves, you could end up with worse in 3 neighbours time, or perhaps buy the view, next time it's for sale.
They brought land on mature sim because they intended to use it for this purpose, if they can't, I guess they should have been warned before purchase somehow. So maybe the kidzone signs would be good in future. Talk to them by all means, maybe screens and they can move some stuff to the other side and use your end as the Landing or shopping zone, but remember they probably didn't realise "kids" were really present at the time of purchase and if they did , well it's mature land at a good price that suited their needs.
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Dekka Raymaker
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02-19-2008 00:35
Baaaaah Baaahh!
Angelique LaFollette
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02-19-2008 00:56
Mari Ma Chere, Take Stormy Dyrssen 's advice, Of all the Opinions presented here, it seems the best in that it directly, and politely Addresses the problems and makes it clear you wish to AVOID confrontation.

A Multitude of problems can be solved simply by asking politely.

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Marcel Flatley
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02-19-2008 00:59
From: Connor Jun
I can't believe some of you are suggesting trying to reason with someone who gets an erection looking at a horse's ass.

Well with a remark like this you prove at least one thing: You are closer to the horse ass, then the one getting an erection. Must make you happy I guess :-)

Regarding the OP: As long as Mari hasn't talked to the new neighbours yet, there is not much to say. With a bit of luck they will try to find a solution together, not many people are happy to be in trouble with their neighbours (despite what our always positive Ricardo may think ;) ).

Regarding the rest of the reactions: Often I wonder how many of you are vegetarians? Lets get real, we live in a world where killing an animal to eat it (or to wear its skin) is accepted, and f*ckin it is so very wrong. Well excuse me, if I were the horse in question, I rather get scr*wed then sliced up in supermarket ready parcels :-)
And before you ask: no I am not interested in sex with animals. But if someone else is, I would not disapprove of them either. Their business, not mine.

Finally, pixelsex. We are talking pixels people. bits and bytes. No animals were harmed in the making of this grid :-) So wether people want to ageplay, get erections from pixel horses, or play on the swing, why do we care??? Just try to do whatever you wanna do without disturbing other people, and don't be offended so freaking fast. In Mari's case her concern is very legitimate, as she is not only bothered by the visitors and the sounds, but also the fact she has a child AV. The witchhunt is a factor she must take serious.

Greetings, Marcel
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02-19-2008 01:51
From: Swan Legend
in real life of course. hello? hello? second life isnt real life. :(((!!!!


Ok so you won't mind if I come and take all your SL money, possessions, and hang around watching you pixel slapping, because surely it doesn't matter as it's only real life?
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02-19-2008 02:57
From: Broccoli Curry
Ok so you won't mind if I come and take all your SL money, possessions, and hang around watching you pixel slapping, because surely it doesn't matter as it's only real life?

That's just a silly thing to say :)
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02-19-2008 03:10
From: Dekka Raymaker
That's just a silly thing to say :)


Not really, when you take into account their statment

From: someone
"Finally, pixelsex. We are talking pixels people. bits and bytes. No animals were harmed in the making of this grid :-) So wether people want to ageplay, get erections from pixel horses, or play on the swing, why do we care???"


Methinks the distinction between what is and isn't acceptable is nothing to do with whether it's "real" or "virtual", rather their own opinions, which they carefully avoid mentioning.

Having sex with animals isn't normal. Real life or virtual. It's just plain wrong. Such behaviour has no place in Second Life. It's this kind of crap going on that makes the rest of us who are here for "normal" stuff look bad, because it's not the good stuff that ever makes it into the media.
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Dekka Raymaker
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02-19-2008 03:16
I don't agree with animal sex either, She's a Bitch, He's a Dog, She's a Cow, He's a Stallion.
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02-19-2008 03:20
From: Broccoli Curry
Not really, when you take into account their statment



Methinks the distinction between what is and isn't acceptable is nothing to do with whether it's "real" or "virtual", rather their own opinions, which they carefully avoid mentioning.

Having sex with animals isn't normal. Real life or virtual. It's just plain wrong. Such behaviour has no place in Second Life. It's this kind of crap going on that makes the rest of us who are here for "normal" stuff look bad, because it's not the good stuff that ever makes it into the media.

There's a lot of things not normal in second life, the grey areas just vary for many people, on what we can accept if we don't see it pushed at us and what we won't accept at all.
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02-19-2008 03:20
From: Broccoli Curry
Not really, when you take into account their statment



Methinks the distinction between what is and isn't acceptable is nothing to do with whether it's "real" or "virtual", rather their own opinions, which they carefully avoid mentioning.

Having sex with animals isn't normal. Real life or virtual. It's just plain wrong. Such behaviour has no place in Second Life. It's this kind of crap going on that makes the rest of us who are here for "normal" stuff look bad, because it's not the good stuff that ever makes it into the media.


oh well since you are the authority on whats accepted as normal . . *rolls eyes dramatically*
and btw youre post to me was complete crap. i couldnt even understand what youre point was or if a joke was in there.

Dont bother replying to anything i write. its an insult to my intelligence to entertain the drivel that comes out of your mouth.
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02-19-2008 03:28
From: Swan Legend
oh well since you are the authority on whats accepted as normal . . *rolls eyes dramatically*
and btw youre post to me was complete crap. i couldnt even understand what youre point was or if a joke was in there.

Dont bother replying to anything i write. its an insult to my intelligence to entertain the drivel that comes out of your mouth.


Would you like me to use words of less than three syllables to help you understand?

I will reply to whatever I like, and don't need you to tell me whether I can or not. Don't like what I say? Then either change your behaviour so you stop feeling guilty, or just ignore me. As long as I remain within the rules of the board, you'll just have to deal with it.

I can't figure out why you can't understand what my post was referring to. You're just picking and choosing what suits you as to what is and isn't real. If you think having sex with animals in SL is fine because they aren't "real", then that's no different from pixel child porn in SL which has been cracked down on, hard. So if the content is not real, neither is the money that you have made from selling your 'pretty things for pretty girls', thus you'll have no problem giving it away to other people.

Does that explain it simply enough, or would you like me to draw a picture instead?
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02-19-2008 03:30
Would having sex with a avatar called Swan be ok?
Broccoli Curry
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02-19-2008 03:32
From: Dekka Raymaker
Would having sex with a avatar called Swan be ok?


Unless it really was a swan, I guess so, if blondes are your thing.
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02-19-2008 03:32
From: Broccoli Curry
Would you like me to use words of less than three syllables to help you understand?

I will reply to whatever I like, and don't need you to tell me whether I can or not. Don't like what I say? Then either change your behaviour so you stop feeling guilty, or just ignore me. As long as I remain within the rules of the board, you'll just have to deal with it.

I can't figure out why you can't understand what my post was referring to. You're just picking and choosing what suits you as to what is and isn't real. If you think having sex with animals in SL is fine because they aren't "real", then that's no different from pixel child porn in SL which has been cracked down on, hard. So if the content is not real, neither is the money that you have made from selling your 'pretty things for pretty girls', thus you'll have no problem giving it away to other people.

Does that explain it simply enough, or would you like me to draw a picture instead?



you dont know the first thing about me and you have some nerve talking to me that way.

you know what you can do with your judgmental condescending attitude? you can stick it right up your ass.

yes i said it im not taking it back. i cant stand people like you.
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02-19-2008 03:40
From: Raymond Figtree
Why do I hear the phrase "Only in SL" repeating over and over in my head as I peruse this thread?

/runs for the safety of one of the ad farm threads.

Oh and while I'm gone, don't anyone dare try to insert a hamster joke. Anywhere. :mad:


Saying the words Insert and Hamster is probably not the wisest move on this thread...;)


Mari I really dont have any advice to offer on this one..its a toughie..I can see both sides. There was always this risk when living on Mature land, I can only hope they are approachable. I like to think I am a good neighbour and would happily work with my neighbours to make everyones time in sl less complicated...but sadly not everyone is like that.

They truly may come back at you saying.."well we picked this land as its mature and the covenant suits";( if there is one) I just don't know what recourse you have because of that :(
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02-19-2008 04:01
From: Swan Legend
you dont know the first thing about me and you have some nerve talking to me that way.

you know what you can do with your judgmental condescending attitude? you can stick it right up your ass.

yes i said it im not taking it back. i cant stand people like you.


Your post tells me more than enough about you for me to be grateful I don't know anything more.

Funny how people always start getting rude when they're backed into a corner, knowing they lost the argument, and can't think of anything else to do.

Have a nice day. I certainly will.
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02-19-2008 04:07
From: Tiana Whitfield
Saying the words Insert and Hamster is probably not the wisest move on this thread...;)(

You beat me to it. I was going to say, is that *insert a hamster joke* or * insert a hamster* joke...and would it be considered cheating?
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02-19-2008 04:17
Avoid sex with pigs!!! They Squeel!!!

Altho, sex with sheep aint too baaaaaa-aaaad.

:D

Sorry. Couldnt resist. :D
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02-19-2008 04:26
From: Broccoli Curry
Your post tells me more than enough about you for me to be grateful I don't know anything more.

Funny how people always start getting rude when they're backed into a corner, knowing they lost the argument, and can't think of anything else to do.

Have a nice day. I certainly will.



why dont you just shut the hell up? did it ever occur to you that i didnt answer the questions posed in your post because they were idiotic? im not the one who needs things spelled out. You do. and frankly, i cant be bothered. piss off.
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02-19-2008 04:34
From: Swan Legend
why dont you just shut the hell up? did it ever occur to you that i didnt answer the questions posed in your post because they were idiotic? im not the one who needs things spelled out. You do. and frankly, i cant be bothered. piss off.


I thought you were ignoring me? Not that it really matters, because you aren't important.

If you don't have anything sensible to say, I suggest you don't say anything at all. You aren't actually upsetting me at all with your outbursts, I've dealt with bigger trolls on forums that make this place look like a fluffy bunny's tea-party, so I'm quite sure you won't be able to run me out of here.

Keep trying though, if it makes you happy. You might want to go back to the actual topic of the thread instead of sinking to petty insults though.
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