The new neighbors...

(Maybe I better not wear my teddy bear avi either!) We are diverging a bit anyway, Mari is needing sound advice...sorry Mari...

Yes, it would be a danger to her animals to have them run freely.....LOL. Oh that is horrible

So true

Ya think?


Sorry,carry on....

your neigbors seem tardy and bad. but MY motto has always been to be the BADDEST neighbor on the block lol.

i live on the mainland and when tards wander onto my prop. i just freeze em. talk crap to them. sic my dogs on them. eventually the log off.

As far as your farm lovin animal pals, if it is private land in a mature sim, you have no options as for gettin them to stop fiddlin the beasties. I'd just ignore it. or invite pals to stand on my property and mock them in the moment of coitus (when they are playin with the horse and what not). Smack Talk invariably kills the mood! (I learned this wanderin around Abusers and Victims long time ago. NOBODY likes to hear stuff like "wtf are ya doin to that horse! you must be french!" when they are doin weird crap like that.

(disclaimer: Jumpman Lane has NOTHING against foriegnors of ANY nationality whatsoever. " You must be french" JUST SOUNDS FUNNY!). Good luck Marianne!

Well, I would try speaking to the neighbors first of course. Often as others have said these things can be solved with just a little chat.

If they turn out to be unreasonable though, then I would put up a fence of some kind and invest in a polite security orb that with a 30 second or so warning. Someone mentioned a fence with a notice on it "kid zone" - that would be cute as well as effective I think.

LOL! I had a little piece of property a while back... the neighbor and his wife were constantly having sex in open chat (in their house, so I couldn't see, but could hear them) and after a couple of sessions where I would interject stuff like "hey buddy, you might try (a naughty suggestion) to get her off..." etc, they took it all to IM. We lived happily ever after that, and they ended up selling me the parcel when they moved, at a great price because we all got along after that.

/me cracks up xD

In the About Land window, on the Media page, there's a checkbox to restrict spatialized sound to this parcel. That should solve a lot of the problem. Maybe the playground needs a new rock climbing wall.

Spatialized sound doesn't restrict open chat typing though. That's what I think Mari has a problem with.

In most states in the U.S., bestiality is a violation of animal cruelty laws, which are sometimes a felony. The animal is essentially being raped and injured. However, since these are prim virtual animals, they probably wouldn't be covered. Where's PETA when you need them?

Think about this - these people moved their stable of animal torture right up next to what they must have known was a child role-play situation. They obviously don't give a flip about the neighbors. Sure, you could try talking to them, but sometimes trying to reason with a sociopath makes the situation worse because then they try to annoy you. Of course, if they retaliate, you can file an abuse report on them. In the meantime, a big wall and a security orb should do the trick nicely.

Oh one more thing - Mari, is this on mainland or on an estate? If it's an estate, you could try to get the estate owner to intervene.

I'm a new neighbor myself...in a PG sim and I'm afraid to drop any beds or racks or poses or anything thats not PG.

I originally purchased the parcel for building but i always like to live in my work..and play on occasion. Now..I am afraid i will have to constantly tell visitors "we can't here".

I cammed around the sim..theres a cute little couple who likes to chacuzzi nude...and generally the sim is quiet.

I've "played" in PG SIMs before but always made sure everything was in IM and doors were closed and noone was around. I really tried to respect the prying eyes of neighbors.

I wonder if I can place a skybox really high...or either a hidden dungeon really low. The parcel is large.. I'm not scrunched up to anyone...but i sure don't want any complaints either.


~Lana Tomba

In a mature sim, I think it should be the operater of the child avies's responsibility to remove themselves from the situation. Either this or allow minors onto the main grid and ban all sexual content and bad language.

Under 18's are not allowed on the main grid because of certain activities, What is the point of this if we still end up walking on eggshells because adults who choose to play children are also not allowed to witness or join in these activities.

*squints at Mari and sees she is wearing an adult AV at the moment*

I've searched and cannot find any mention of beastiality (or bestiality) on the website. So, while it may be convered under some 'broadly offensive' measure, I wouldn't rely on LL for any enforcement against it.

Probably you are in the same situation as any other person who has a potentially troublesome sex business move in next door. First: For a few weeks I would do nothing and see if the place succeeds in attracting traffic.

I think it is unrealistic to ask BDSM folks to conduct everything in IM (in many BDSM places, people commonly 'scene' publicly), and certainly unenforceable. When you speak to the sim owner, you might offer them a compromise, e.g. say you will move all your social activity areas 10m in from their area if they will agree to do the same, thereby making it less likely that you'll overhear each other's chat.

Since this sort of place will attract noobs, you may want to put up a greeter yourself, mentioning that they have left <neighbor's parcel name>. When I was a noob, I had no real notion of property lines, and I wandered about without even considering that someone other than LL might "own" the land.

And, while the advice about LL's lawyers is I'm sure well intended, I think anyone who is known primarily as a child AV should steer clear of that! Lawyers are loaded guns. If your current SL life is at all satisfactory, do keep in mind that, once an issue is undeniably brought to a corporate lawyer's attention, s/he may feel compelled to take actions that could only be described as unpleasant for the avatar in question. I would not risk it. In this case, let sleeping dogs lie.
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/me takes a deep breath and calmly types . . i think bestiality is pretty gross and disgusting . . having said that . .

/me slaps puppet repeated across the face, freaks out and jumps on puppet, wailing on him/her until someone pulls me off.


HOW CAN YOU BE A SOCIOPATH VICTIMIZING PIXELS ON A COMPUTER SCREEN?
MY HEAD IS IMPLODING. THIS DOES NOT COMPUTE. WARNING. DOES NOT COMPUTE.

Sex with fake animals is still legal though.

I am pretty sure if someone does their Teddy Bear they wont go to jail.

SL animals are no more real than teddy bears.

Erm, and SL child avvies are not really children.

If people seeing images of cartoon children having sex (but knowing they are adults in real life) is banned in SL, why is cartoon people having sex with animals (again knowing this isn't real) allowed? Surely animals are not able to consent to sex any more than children (in real life, of course).

I was really shocked to discover that bestility appears to be allowed in SL. Here in Britain it is viewed as a serious offence. It appears to be illegal in many places.

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/sex13.htm

Normally I say 'each to his own', and yes, if you really want to live in a PG environment then you probably should live in a PG sim. But bestiality, in my book, is rather in the same catagory as child porn - definately not something to be encouraged.

But in many countries event he virtual depiction of child sex is illegal. This is the same type wording used in LL's ban of sexual age-play

There is no comparable ban on bestiality in SL, nor virtual depictions of it in those countries.

I'm sure if some of those countries banned virtual bestiality and news shows did SL exposes on it, LL would ban SL bestiality just like they did sexual ageplay.

Can you imagine the debates?..what is an animal?..what constitutes beastialtiy?..is a furry a beast?..what a can of worms.

~Lana Tomba

It would be a mess, yes

I guess Av sex with anything that looks like it could belong in Bugs Bunny = Yiffing

AV sex with anything that looks like it would belong in The Lion King = Bestiality

Why do I hear the phrase "Only in SL" repeating over and over in my head as I peruse this thread?

/runs for the safety of one of the ad farm threads.

Oh and while I'm gone, don't anyone dare try to insert a hamster joke. Anywhere.

But haven't we already established that hamsters have a right to bear arms? giggles

Seriously though, regardless of "legalities" and "moralities" which can be beaten to death, I'm always of mind to try and reason with neighbours first, regardless of their proclivities. IF they are unreasonable, then protect oneself to whatever extent one is comfortable.

I hope they are reasonable.

the parcel flag "sounds only hearable on this parcel" blocks ANY sounds passing the parcel border!, it goes both ways.
They should have the decensy to have that enabled.

Sell out acess passes for your land.

Join the fun!

Mari... it's sad, I know - but... might be time to move on. You could try the "talk to them and then do the 'broadly offending" AR" route too - but... what a mess.

I'm solid full estatewise, but I'm sure there are a zillion other private estates out there which would *never* tolerate anything less than a decent environment for you. I'd recommend Alliez, personally, for your situation. If you go that road, say I sent ya.