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My Afternoon as a Slave in Training

Stuart Markova
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Join date: 28 Oct 2007
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08-25-2008 16:36
Yes it is your denseness, But I wasn't the one who attcked your anti BDSM lifestyle, It was you who attcked my BDSM lifestyle.

You are a living breathing honest to God hippocrate.

I wish you could here your spew from this side of the room.

You would make yourself ill.

Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you. Luke 6:31....oh and yes we even read the Bible.
Rose Dove
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Join date: 16 Mar 2008
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08-25-2008 16:38
From: Bull Hynes
*you* opened this can of worms with your uninformed comments, views and name calling. you need to wake up.


Again, what is "uninformed" about relating one's experiences? They were as they were.

To me, a pimp is someone who sells the sexual favors of another for money. I thought this was the excepted definition of a pimp. Perhaps I am wrong here. I believe labelling the selling of another's sexual favors for money "pimping" is the only "name" I called you, isn't it? If you differ with me on this, what is your definition of a pimp?
Rose Dove
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Join date: 16 Mar 2008
Posts: 288
08-25-2008 16:40
From: John11011967 Karu
If i may be so Bold.

i am lucky enought to have met my soul mate thru the bdsm community.
is she my "the one" yes. had i not been in s/l we would never had met.

i have also been lucky to have meet a great bunch of like minded people, many of which have become my friends and confidents...can you say the same i dont think so.


I am happy that you have met someone you are happy with.

But again, it is my right to not enjoy your lifestyle, and I feel you are wrong to condemn me for not enjoying your lifestyle. Not everyone enjoys BDSM.
John11011967 Karu
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Join date: 10 Jul 2008
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08-25-2008 16:40
i am still awaiting a reply to my post btw!
Edith Shelman
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Join date: 24 Jun 2008
Posts: 18
08-25-2008 16:41
I haven't said much in the forums here. I want to just say one little thing. I am in training to a wonderful Master (he is not my master, just training me to be a properly responsive slave) and it may happen that someday i will be sold or auctioned or whatever, or I may choose to leave the whole lifestyle altogehter. anyways, i've spent weeks and weeks learning about it, not just one day. And I still don't feel like I can pass judgement on how someone lives their lives.

It would be like spending one afternoon in communist China and saying that their entire way of life is disagreeable even if you've only seen one tiny part. I'm not saying that it's wrong to not like it, i'm saying that it might be wrong to pass judgement so quickly.

Edith
Kadin Ansar
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Join date: 31 Jul 2008
Posts: 15
Where Should I Begin (Round 2)
08-25-2008 16:41
Number One: You want us to quit? You started this chat thread. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Number Two: If you are insinuating that you were forced to be there by now saying that you didn't want to be sold, I would openly and vehemently suggest you tread carefully, the ice is very thin where you are standing.

Number Three: Your quote from your first post states, "Why were the other people there? I IM'ed a few. One woman who was auctioned off soon after I arrived ..." Sounds like you initiated the IMs, or to use my phrasing, jumped into the other person's IMs. Oh, and by the way, there wasn't any auction yesterday, so I'm not quite sure how able I am to depend on your reporting since it's proven false at least on one point.

Number Four: You were never humiliated. You were never called names such as bitch, whore, slut, fuckhole, et cetera, so on and so forth. You were never even asked to (let alone forced to) have sex or be used as an ashtray. When you were on the pole "emoting," you were reminded to be sensual, not outright sexual. You chose to do otherwise. And if being naked is humiliating to you, then you need to work on your own body image and self esteem. It's a body. Deal with it.

Number Five: You have every right to not enjoy BDSM. We have every right to have it as part of our indivdual and collective culture. We also have the right to decency and privacy. You chose to not allow us that. We choose to defend our way of life. Once again, deal with it. We didn't invade your space then post it up on the forums.

Number Six: If you can't figure out where and how you have been ridiculing us (I never did see where I said you were humiliating us), then my dear, you are far beyond any help any of us can give.
Rose Dove
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Join date: 16 Mar 2008
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08-25-2008 16:43
From: trevor5565 Zwanger
Rose yes its your right... its not your right to call our lifestyle alternative.. who made you you the judge. surely from my point of view my lifestylre is normal. but your i would consider alternative..But it is your right. and i respect you for your choices and congratulate you that you are happy in that choice.


I believe the definition of an "alternative" lifestyle is one that is lived by the minority rather than the majority. I believe that means that BDSM is an alternative lifestyle.

From: trevor5565 Zwanger

Am i not afforeded that same right..Oh BTW Sweetlips is my sub she is not a slave. very large very important differance.And i am proud she is able to be herself with me .as am i with her. we have what is known as a relationship..its a wonderful thing.. try one you may enjoy it


Yes, you are afforded the right to be happy in your lifestyle.

Am I not allowed the right to not enjoy your lifestyle without condemnation because I do not enjoy it?
Stuart Markova
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Join date: 28 Oct 2007
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08-25-2008 16:44
The difference?

If I am a pimp, and I own a girl, she's gonna blow and go for cash and I will get the cash and she gets the diseases.

In BDSM, if a slave wishes to walk away she may.

In whoredom, if you walk away you get your throat cut.

In BDSM if a man abusses the limits of a slave, she can walk away if SHE CHOOSES.

In whoredom, if a john violates a woman, and she doesn't like it, the pimp beats her ass for complaining.

Maybe you should read a book on BDSM AND Whoredom.....then you would know the difference. lmfao

I think you already do.

You just like stirring the damn pot.

You wouldn't be a good citizen in BDSM, GOR, or D/s.....you're nothing but a brat trouble maker.
Bull Hynes
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Join date: 25 Apr 2007
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08-25-2008 16:45
We share the same ideas on the definition of a pimp. However, the business I have developed here does NOT revolve around sex or sexual favors AT ALL. It revolves around selling slaves, what the Buyer chooses to do with the slaves, is between them. you are as clueless as a rock.
John11011967 Karu
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Join date: 10 Jul 2008
Posts: 7
08-25-2008 16:45
From: Rose Dove
I am happy that you have met someone you are happy with.

But again, it is my right to not enjoy your lifestyle, and I feel you are wrong to condemn me for not enjoying your lifestyle. Not everyone enjoys BDSM.


yes it is but if i may say you have spent so little time before closing your mind.#


I and others here invite you to return to Bulls at Bonanza Bondage spend a little time there get to know the people behind the avis and it may just expand your world a little more then prehaps you might know where we are comming from.
Tarina Sewell
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Join date: 20 Jul 2007
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08-25-2008 16:47
From: 3Ring Binder
well i would hope so.



I'm sorry but if the slave got it he would never pull in that kinda rl money...
Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 16:49
From: Stuart Markova
Yes it is your denseness, But I wasn't the one who attcked your anti BDSM lifestyle, It was you who attcked my BDSM lifestyle

You are a living breathing honest to God hippocrate.
..


You are attacking me. Your claim is that because I do not enjoy your lifestyle I am hypocritical.

From: Stuart Markova

You would make yourself ill.

Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you. Luke 6:31....oh and yes we even read the Bible.


As far as "doing unto others" - would you have others criticize you because you didn't enjoy their lifestyle?

For instance, if I enjoyed bungee-jumping, and you didn't, would I have a right to call you narrow-minded and hypocritical because you do not enjoy bungee-jumping?
L1sa Miles
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Join date: 5 Mar 2007
Posts: 4
defending
08-25-2008 16:50
Miss Rose, no one is condeming you because of the lifestlye you have choosen, we are only telling you our views of the lifestyle we have choosen. I hope if a new person reads your post they will not get the wrong idea of what BDSM is.
From: Rose Dove
I believe the definition of an "alternative" lifestyle is one that is lived by the minority rather than the majority. I believe that means that BDSM is an alternative lifestyle.



Yes, you are afforded the right to be happy in your lifestyle.

Am I not allowed the right to not enjoy your lifestyle without condemnation because I do not enjoy it?
Derbor Torok
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Join date: 21 Jun 2007
Posts: 1,016
08-25-2008 16:57
Ok.. time to give Rose a break.

Piling on is not fun unles there is oil involved...

.d
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Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 16:59
From: Stuart Markova
The difference?

If I am a pimp, and I own a girl, she's gonna blow and go for cash and I will get the cash and she gets the diseases.
.

The pimp gets a cut of the money the prostitute makes in RL. The auctioneer gets a cut of the money the slave is sold for. Sounds the same to me.


From: Stuart Markova

In whoredom, if a john violates a woman, and she doesn't like it, the pimp beats her ass for complaining.
.


The auctioneer beat me during my afternoon of training when I said something he didn't like.
The difference is that the beating is virtual, so it is only a humiliation and doesn't hurt physically, but the similarity is there. Those who enjoy BDSM enjoy this aspect.

From: Stuart Markova

Maybe you should read a book on BDSM AND Whoredom.....then you would know the difference. lmfao
From: someone


The sim was about selling slaves. How do you define a pimp if a pimp is not someone who profits from selling the sexual favors of another? This doesn't mean it is bad. Unlike RL, in SL, you can walk away.

I agree, BDSM is not the same as whoredom, but selling the sexual favors of someone is whoredom, isn't it?
Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 17:05
From: Bull Hynes
We share the same ideas on the definition of a pimp. However, the business I have developed here does NOT revolve around sex or sexual favors AT ALL. It revolves around selling slaves, what the Buyer chooses to do with the slaves, is between them. you are as clueless as a rock.


Clueless as a rock, eh? I think I would have to be more clueless than a rock to believe that a room filled with nude women pole-dancing in front of a group of clothed men is not about sex.

Or how about an auctioneer selling a slave as willing to do voice and web-cam?

Again, there is no law against selling sex in SL. Besides, it's virtual sex. Sitting safely behind your computer means that your av will do things that you would not do in RL. I can guarantee you that in RL I wouldn't strip my clothes off if you asked me to as I did in the SL sim.
Bull Hynes
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Join date: 25 Apr 2007
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08-25-2008 17:06
It's NOT ALL about SEX! Get an F'n clue! Sex can be involved, but is NOT REQUIRED. GET AN F'n CLUE!
John11011967 Karu
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Join date: 10 Jul 2008
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08-25-2008 17:06
I agree, BDSM is not the same as whoredom, but selling the sexual favors of someone is whoredom, isn't it?[/QUOTE]

You just dont get it do you?
Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 17:13
From: L1sa Miles
Miss Rose, no one is condeming you because of the lifestlye you have choosen, we are only telling you our views of the lifestyle we have choosen. I hope if a new person reads your post they will not get the wrong idea of what BDSM is.


No one is condemning me? I am being told that because I do not enjoy the BDSM lifestyle I am narrow-minded, hypocritical, clueless as a rock, anti-men, anti-sex....the list goes on and on. All I have done is state that the BDSM lifestyle is not my cup of tea. That doesn't make me a bad person. BDSM isn't for everyone.
Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 17:15
From: Bull Hynes
It's NOT ALL about SEX! Get an F'n clue! Sex can be involved, but is NOT REQUIRED. GET AN F'n CLUE!


No, it's not all about sex. It's also about the master-slave relationship.

In RL prostitution, isn't the john-prostitute relationship part of what it's about, at least sometimes?

Do you deny that sex is a part of it in both instances?
John11011967 Karu
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08-25-2008 17:16
From: Rose Dove
No one is condemning me? I am being told that because I do not enjoy the BDSM lifestyle I am narrow-minded, hypocritical, clueless as a rock, anti-men, anti-sex....the list goes on and on. All I have done is state that the BDSM lifestyle is not my cup of tea. That doesn't make me a bad person. BDSM isn't for everyone.
#

imho you have not given the BDSM comm a chance how dare yiou judge us do you make your mind up so quickly about everything?
Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 17:17
From: John11011967 Karu
I agree, BDSM is not the same as whoredom, but selling the sexual favors of someone is whoredom, isn't it?


You just dont get it do you?[/QUOTE]

John, picture this in your mind: there is a naked woman in a cage. She is surrounded by clothed men. The person auctioning her off is saying things like she will do voice and web-cam. She is talking about wanting to use her RL and SL toys.

Can you telling me that selling sexual favors is not a part of this?

Sexual favors is not the only thing being sold here, but I would claim it is a part of it.
Bull Hynes
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08-25-2008 17:18
As I said, you opened this can of worms with your name calling and uninformed comments. you want to see cyber pimps, check the places that sell slaves on hourly contracts.
Kadin Ansar
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Join date: 31 Jul 2008
Posts: 15
Beat You?
08-25-2008 17:18
All right. Put your money where your mouth is. My email address is [email]kadinansar@gmail.com[/email] Send me the log where you were beaten. I don't care if it's a huge file. Just attach it and prove what you are saying. No cut or copy and paste needed, just attach the log file.
Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 17:19
From: Derbor Torok
Ok.. time to give Rose a break.

Piling on is not fun unles there is oil involved...

.d



REALLY!

At least you could have brought oil =D
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