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Butterfly30 Cao
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08-25-2008 15:50
You should really ask questions of Master Bull and he would happily answer any and all of them and fyi the person who is sold gets half of what was made at the auction i know i was sold for 10K so you do the math on what I got and for any of you who are playing games try talking to Master Bull then you would understand how his business works. And Master Bull is a wonderful person who is doing a wonderful job he doesnt deal with the "rifffaff" as he puts it. and i was very new to the whole thing of being sold. this isnt a question of gorean or otherwise its a matter of a slave being sold to a Master/Mistress how hard is that to understand i mean seriously?
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Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 15:51
You don't call this looking down you damn nose? You must be thick as a brick!!!!! If you can insult a "MAN" in bdsm my dear, you are looking down your nose. Stuart, Stuart. you've got me there. That little joke appears to be a blanket condemnation of men. I didn't mean it seriously. I actually like men a great deal. I was happily married to one for 22 years until cancer took him. I'm not insulting men, I'm joking with them as an equal. I have an equal number of e-mail jokes about the foibles of women, and I freely distribute them also. Since the concept of men and women as equals is foreign to the premises of the slave auction, I can understand why you consider this an insult. As far as "Nadu" which is the most ommon form of slave kneel, It is a way of showing the Master loyalty. It is a voluntary submission. Submission? Well that is all part of BDSM. It does not mean that the slave girl is disrespected. I respect my slaves more than any being I know. A hell of alot more than I respect you. Honestly now, when the women are treated as cattle, as less than human, you can't tell me that this is respectful. Just like the series of jokes about men, this doesn't mean that you necessarily feel that way about women. There is a difference between RP and RL, or at least there can be a difference. |
hurly Burleigh
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Join date: 19 Sep 2005
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08-25-2008 15:51
I thought sex was what posh people had coal delivered in
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Stuart Markova
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Join date: 28 Oct 2007
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08-25-2008 15:52
I refer you to Kadin Ansar's post. There is much going on in this sim that is NOT about sex. You have chosen to highlight one aspect of this community. Slaves are sold as a business, a highly successful SL business. When you arrive in this sim, unlike many others, you are not greeted with poseballs and noobies walking around with their genitalia on display. You are greeted, often personally, with a "hello can i help you?" (sometimes by me, if you are really lucky!) and shown around the sim, the various stores, the clubs, the yacht, the auction room. You will not ANYWHERE see avatars on pose balls having pretend sex. I repeat, this sim is not selling sex. Come back and meet with me, i'll show you around. Then i'll take you to some others sims that ARE about sex. Come on, i dare you! I agree totally!!!! I have a slave with me always, she is my bright star! I was shopping at a SIM that had a free sex area. This girl was being used by "HER BOYFRIEND" as a sex doll and giving her to oher guys. She felt ALONE! In as much, she was allowing herself to be abused. I asked her to spend 5 minutes talking to me and she did. 2 eeks ago she allowed herself to become my slave and my submissive. She says I rescued her from hell. She is my best friend, my true hearts companion. And I didn't pay a dime for her. I dare you to walk with me through a jungle of sex peddlers before you call us sex peddlers. You have no clue Miss Rose, none whatsoever. |
Rose Dove
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Join date: 16 Mar 2008
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The Slave Auction Should Thank Me for the Advertisement!
08-25-2008 15:55
Actually, guys, look at all the free publicity the slave market is getting here!! I bet they have a real "bonanza" of extra customers after all this talk in the forums about them.
This isn't going to hurt the slave auction business one bit. Everyone knows it's about sex. Being naughty is a large part of the excitement of the experience. Now lots more people know where to find it. ^_^ |
Cloey Dawner
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Join date: 20 Apr 2008
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Clueless
08-25-2008 16:02
Honestly now, when the women are treated as cattle, as less than human, you can't tell me that this is respectful. Just like the series of jokes about men, this doesn't mean that you necessarily feel that way about women. There is a difference between RP and RL, or at least there can be a difference. Honestly now Rose, spending a couple hours with your legs spread, unable to learn enough about what was going on to give accurate information to a guest, by telling him that what he was seeing was an auction, did not give you enough insight to tell whether the treatment of the girls in question was respectful or not. Had you paid enough attention to learn about the women (and men) in question who were present when you were, you might have seen that they are strong, capable, confident women who give themselves freely, no coersion involved. You were not coerced into stripping off your clothes, you were not forced to wear the collar that was gifted to you. You were not forced to type in your profile that you were a slave, nor were you forced to right click on the pole while naked. None of the women (and men) who choose to participate in this lifestyle are 'forced' and believe me not all of SL is about poseball hopping. In fact, i can almost guarantee that if you have frequented the clubs and bars of SL, if you have 'dated' more than one or two male avatars, you, my dear have done more poseball hopping than most of the girls involved in these auctions. Get your facts straight hun. And learn to thoroughly research something before writing uninformed. |
hurly Burleigh
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08-25-2008 16:02
Rose you are talking out of your nether regions.
I have personally been to the Sim on numerous occasions and have yet to even be approached regarding sex. Unlike several malls and even LL greeting areas that seem to be the haunt of sex pests and hopeful noobs Personally i have only ever had intelligent frie3ndly conversation with like minded individuals at the sim |
Bull Hynes
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Join date: 25 Apr 2007
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Thank you?!?!?!?!
08-25-2008 16:03
you are delusional. I suggest you seek help and soon. you have insulted My name and called Me a "cyber pimp". If you want to see a cyber pimp, check the slave auction places that sell "hourly slaves". you truly have NO CLUE.
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Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 16:04
Ok now i'm Pissed .Isn't the right of everyone to look for what they wish where they wish. Knock me i dont care ,But to condemn someone who wishes to find someone for a reallife relationship. sorry shallowest thing you have posted so far.if i write what i really think of that comment..Linden Labs would remove me ....think before you speak Tervor, please read my post again. here it is: It is women like L1sa that most shocked me at the slave auction. This was my first exposure to BDSM, and yes, some aspects of it shocked me. L1sa openly wishes to find a master in RL. While I wish her every success in her chosen lifestyle, it is not the goal of anyone I had encountered up to that point. Are you condemning me for wishing L1sa every success in her lifestyle or for being shocked when I encountered someone with goals different than anyone I had encountered up to that point? "shocked" doesn't mean I am condemning L1sa. It means that L1sa's goals are outside my experience up to that point. That is what I meant and all I meant. For what are you condemning me? |
Stuart Markova
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Join date: 28 Oct 2007
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08-25-2008 16:05
I missed your earlier reply to the "Nadu" statement my lady.
So here we go again........as Ol Ronnie Reagan would say. I have 1 RL slave.....for 5 years we have been together. When I am with friends who are no in the life.....she wears jeans. She also sits upright even. When we ARE in the life......she wears zilch, nata, nothing, zero nude naked buff, ect lol She does this why? BECAUSE SHE CHOOSES TO!!!!!!! Wake UP!!!!!! BDSM IS A CHOICE!!!!!!! |
Nika Talaj
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08-25-2008 16:11
*coughs* Not interested in the lifestyles discussion, but just to separate out the sexism part of this: Rose, males are also sold at auction in SL (of course by their choice). I'm not familiar with the auction house you're discussing, but I've seen a couple of auctions, and though most of the slaves were female, there were also males. Enthusiastic ones, in fact.
In both auctions I saw, slaves received hefty percentages of the price, I forget the exact number. Many were not owned when auctioned. Although the major interest of those involved appeared to be sexual, in some D/S cultures in SL there is completely asexual slavery, simply for discipline or even (in Gor), for housework. . |
Rose Dove
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Join date: 16 Mar 2008
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08-25-2008 16:12
Let's see if I have this right. You went to this sim of your own free will. You lied about why you were there. . No, I didnt't lie about why I was there. I openly said I wanted to learn what they had to teach and that I did not wish to be sold as a slave. You jumped into several people's IM's to investigate their lives. . I'm afraid I don't know what you mean here. I IMed several people. I personally consider that to be pestering. You continued your lie the entire time you were there. You were treated with respect, never once humiliated. . Never humiliated? I guess that depends on how you define humiliation. By definition, isn't being treated as a slave humiliation? Isn't being humiliated the draw, at least to many? You always had the welcome opportunity to depart without grief or harassment. And you choose to use your experience to degrade and ridicule the owner of the sim, the people who reside in and visit the sim, and the people of the BDSM community. . Where am I "degrading and humiliating"? Again, I don't understand why the BDSM adherents find it necessary to defend their lifestyle so vehemently. As nearly as I can determine, the only negative words said here are about me. Damn it, I insist on my right to not enjoy BDSM! QUIT PERSECUTING ME!!! |
Rose Dove
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Quit Insulting Me!!!
08-25-2008 16:16
Again, it is my right to NOT enjoy BDSM!!! I have the right to not enjioy your alternate lifestyle! I have the right to be shocked when I encounter something outside my experience for the first time. I do not deserve to be insulted merely because I do not enjoy your lifestyle.
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Sweetlips Lupindo
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Join date: 7 Aug 2008
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08-25-2008 16:20
No, I didnt't lie about why I was there. I openly said I wanted to learn what they had to teach and that I did not wish to be sold as a slave. I'm afraid I don't know what you mean here. I IMed several people. Never humiliated? I guess that depends on how you define humiliation. By definition, isn't being treated as a slave humiliation? Isn't being humiliated the draw, at least to many? Where am I "degrading and humiliating"? Again, I don't understand why the BDSM adherents find it necessary to defend their lifestyle so vehemently. As nearly as I can determine, the only negative words said here are about me. Damn it, I insist on my right to not enjoy BDSM! QUIT PERSECUTING ME!!! You're joking right? YOU raise the subject, YOU refuse to acknowledge/agree/argue with certain points and pick out the ones that suit your case and you now ask us to "quite (sic) persecuting"?. I can only assume that was a joke. However, just in case it wasn't i will throw myself at my Master's feet, confess my sins at upsetting poor innocent you, and hope he thrashes me soundly. Well, a girl can dream, can't she? |
L1sa Miles
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Join date: 5 Mar 2007
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the right
08-25-2008 16:20
you are the one that came to our lifestyle and then came here to post your opinion's
so we also have the right to reply. don't get so upset because you don't like what has been said. maybe think twice before trying to trash another sim. where will you go next? |
Rose Dove
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Join date: 16 Mar 2008
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08-25-2008 16:21
And learn to thoroughly research something before writing uninformed. I merely wrote about my expereinces of an afternoon. I don't understand where "uninformed" is appropriate here. Why are you condemning me for not enjoying your lifestyle? It is not for everyone. I have a right to not enjoy it. |
John11011967 Karu
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Join date: 10 Jul 2008
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08-25-2008 16:22
If i may be so Bold.
prehaps if you had spent a little more time in the sim talked to people in voice you would prehaps realize that the sim is a club of people who have the same interests. i have purchased a lot of girls from bulls and am quiet happy to spend 40k on one. Shes happy with what shes doing as is Bull. i am lucky enought to have met my soul mate thru the bdsm community. is she my "the one" yes. had i not been in s/l we would never had met. i have also been lucky to have meet a great bunch of like minded people, many of which have become my friends and confidents...can you say the same i dont think so. |
Stuart Markova
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08-25-2008 16:23
I'm sorry Miss but you left yourself WIDE open for our response.
You are the one who without solicitation, attacked our lifestyle. It is the attack on us that makes us defend what we KNOW about our lifestyle. You want to be left alone? Then stop posting nonsence aboutsomething you know nothing of and you will as I said before, Not be a pariah to those you could be casual friends with. You can have friends that have a different lifestyle than you without running them through the mud. I have several gay and lesbian friends, I do not share their lifestyle, I would never, but i do respect their right to make their own choices, You should learn to do the same!!!!! |
trevor5565 Zwanger
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08-25-2008 16:24
Again, it is my right to NOT enjoy BDSM!!! I have the right to not enjioy your alternate lifestyle! I have the right to be shocked when I encounter something outside my experience for the first time. I do not deserve to be insulted merely because I do not enjoy your lifestyle. Rose yes its your right... its not your right to call our lifestyle alternative.. who made you you the judge. surely from my point of view my lifestylre is normal. but your i would consider alternative..But it is your right. and i respect you for your choices and congratulate you that you are happy in that choice. Am i not afforeded that same right..Oh BTW Sweetlips is my sub she is not a slave. very large very important differance.And i am proud she is able to be herself with me .as am i with her. we have what is known as a relationship..its a wonderful thing.. try one you may enjoy it |
Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 16:25
i must say that to pigeon-hole women who 'choose' to live this lifestyle is very narrow-minded, and to denigrate the men and women who accommodate the 'slaves' desires and fantasies is telling as well. As a staunch feminist who believes that women are powerful creatures, i have found liberation being owned, and found myself stretched (no pun intended) beyond what i thought i could be. . Cloey, where to begin? Read the posts again, and tell me where the pigeon-holing is taking place. As a person who does not enjoy BDSM, I am being condemned and pigeon-holed as narrow-minded, anti-men, anti-sex, anti- virtually everything in existence. As a feminist, please tell me this: don't I have the right to NOT enjoy BDSM? Does not enjoying BDSM make me a bad person? |
Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 16:28
I missed your earlier reply to the "Nadu" statement my lady. So here we go again........as Ol Ronnie Reagan would say. I have 1 RL slave.....for 5 years we have been together. When I am with friends who are no in the life.....she wears jeans. She also sits upright even. When we ARE in the life......she wears zilch, nata, nothing, zero nude naked buff, ect lol She does this why? BECAUSE SHE CHOOSES TO!!!!!!! Wake UP!!!!!! BDSM IS A CHOICE!!!!!!! Not enjoying BDSM is also a choice, and a choice I am entitled to make. WAKE UP!!! |
Bull Hynes
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We ARE awake
08-25-2008 16:30
*you* opened this can of worms with your uninformed comments, views and name calling. you need to wake up.
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Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 16:34
you are the one that came to our lifestyle and then came here to post your opinion's so we also have the right to reply. don't get so upset because you don't like what has been said. maybe think twice before trying to trash another sim. where will you go next? All I have done is post what occurred. How is that "trashing" your lifestyle? maybe think twice before trying to trash another sim. where will you go next? The responses are the comments with the negative connotations, like the one above. Everyone has responded in an extremely defensive and antagonistic manner. I have repeatedly stated that you have a right to your lifestyle. Do you deny that I have a right to not enjoy your lifestyle? |
Cloey Dawner
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08-25-2008 16:35
So the SL cyber pimp has made between L$1.45 million and L$0.87 million since January? Wow!!! I guess this is big business. He's making enough to live comfortably. I'm sure it's more money than he has ever made in his seedy life prior to being a cyber-pimp. It is like the pot calliing the kettle black is it not? You feel persecuted by those who feel the need to refute the misinformation and inaccurate and libelous information you have felt free to post. To be called on your errors and misinformation is not persecution. Just remember the conversation would not have occurred had you not decided that the entertainment value of your misinformation was worth opening up your experiences to comment. If you are going to cast stones, don't live in a glass house. |
Derbor Torok
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08-25-2008 16:35
This is more fun than a Minoutaur with boobs in a barrel of monkeys!
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