My Afternoon as a Slave in Training

Oh that's typical- we are pretty bad about staying on topic Welcome to SL

/me giggles

Just don't take life too seriously, not RL and certainly not SL. Remember, no one gets out of this alive, so you might as well smile and enjoy.... ^_^

Are you Dr. Phil? *

Disclaimer: I know very little about Dr. Phil.

That had always been my understanding actually. Had always held kajirae (not SL) as rather to be respected in what they chose as their path- of course they would tell you it was not a choice. Recently, however, I have read a few who have actually said they needed no respect and seemed so vacuous to be contemptible- a far cry from the Norman's heroines- regarless of what may be said of his lack of literary skills.

I guess I skimmed too quickly. I was referring to slaves in the BDSM sense. Oops!

I have no opinions on SL Gor slaves, with regard to responsibilities. When I visited a few Gor sims, they were more ornamentation than participants, seemingly.

EDITED to add very important "no" so as to seem less high on myself. LOL

I was joking, Sweatheart. Rose took a playful shot at men and I reciprocated. In both cases they were overgeneralized sterotypical remarks. Nothing more.

Please, you know me. I'm only serious when I'm flirting.

/me sidles up to Yosef, looks him up an down... turns, with a glance over shoulder... smiles, winks.. and walks slowly away...

Don't know any BDSM slaves, in or out of world, and have only passing acquaintance with SL Gor, I meant the RL kajirae.

I imagine as with all things in life it takes all kinds.

Books are in print again, including a new one. Newish one. I didn't look to see when that one was written. The trade paperback type, and e-books.


I disagree with the "sexual practices" part. Doesn't have to include or involve sex.

I was sold at the auction in question and enjoyed every minute of it. I love it there so much i now hang out there for fun. Great people, great laughs and remember, nobody forces anyone to do this. Nobody is pimping anybody here. There is not and can not be any coercion on SL...the 'Quit' button is always there.

Oh and for the record, slaves get 50%, straight down the middle.

Come visit, a load of Bull it isn't, but a hell of a lot of fun it is.

I've purchased at the auction in question.Think of me what you wish.Those on sale i have always found to be wonderful people and have made some truly wonderful Friends there. I also visit the sim now just for fun..No i don't but anymore, the reason is simple. i was Lucky enough to find someone there that is my true match. we plan to meet Rl and without places like this we would never have met. I won't knock your interests regardless of if i like or understand them or not so please don't knock mine..... As for the lady i met.. watch this space..........................TBC

I am a firm believer that whatever works for you is right. For you. It might not be right for the next av. Finding what is right for us, uniquely, is the purpose of our journey, both in RL and in SL. More power to you, Sweet! ^_^

And I am sure it is a lot of fun for people with the fantasy of being sold or of buying slaves.

As far as pimping goes, what do you call someone who makes a living selling the sexual services of others, whether on-line or on the street corner? It doesn't mean it's wrong for you, but it is what it is.

Rose, thanks for you good wishes, however many slaves are not sold for sex. BDSM is not about sex. Yes, that may be part of it, but you need to learn a lot about the lifestyle to know what you are talking about. I suggest you go read some and become enlightened!

Bull Hynes has always been a decent business Man, yes he makes money from the auctions but all sales are split evenly with the girls.....
These girls come there willingly, many are Sl noobs that really want to get into the BDSM scene... This man out of his own pocket buys them clothes, skins, and everything they need to get started with a good looking avatar.

He has his own personal girls, that are by far from treated like just slaves, these are intelligant educated women and he recognizes that. These girls teach the others anything from building, to dancing to dressing.. really pasing off some SL skills to help many girls succeed in a good SL experience.

I have purchased a slave from him that turned out a bit sour.... the man didnt keep the money .. he fully Refunded it.

Most girls go there not for the money but to actually meet a RL master or Mistress to help them on thier journey of exploring a lifestyle that really means something to him.

I am Sorry one girl decided that she didnt like his place...it isnt for everyone.. but there is not a more Honest businessman in SL then Bull Hynes...and he really does care for these girls.

From a purely ecconomic standpoint, the sim is a major success. The auctioneer has grossed L$2.9 million this year. It is only August. That means his annual gross is approximately L$3.9 million. Not bad!

Well, I did spend an afternoon at the sim as a slave in training. The culmination of the training was naked pole-dancing. Many of the slaves were were very talented at emoting what they were doing. There are three places to watch movies, all porn. The one girl I saw auctioned off was touted as willing to do voice and web-cam. She added comments such as being anxious to use her RL and SL toys.

In so many ways, the sim is all about selling sex. That doesn't make it wrong, but there is simply no way any of those slaves were purchased for their cooking abilities. SL is all about living your fantasies in a safe environment. The theme of this sim is the buying and selling of love slaves.

I run a slave auction too, and it's marvelous fun. It's pure role play and everyone involved from slaves, to buyers, to staff has a great time. Of COURSE it's not real life, or even based on real life (and as a RL BDSM person I can vouch for that)... but then I ain't a 23 year old leggy blonde in RL either. One of the many fab things about SL is being able to play out fantasies, be they sexual or otherwise.

Do we, the bdsm auction houses, hurt people? No we don't.

Do we, the bdsm auction houses, deserve to be ridiculed.... about as much as anyone else who does things in SL that they don't do in RL. (And I include flying and teleporting in that statement)

So if you find us offensive, keep away.....and if you find us interesting come and visit. We only bite if you beg.

Rosie
xxx
(Madame Auctioneer - Cyber Pimp with class)

I am of two minds about the auctioneer (I believe we aren't supposed to use names in the forum). On the one hand, you are correct: he appears to be an honest businessman. I was only there for an afternoon. You have a great deal more experience with the sim than I have. If you say the auctioneer truly cares for his slaves, then I would believe you. I saw nothing to indicate that he didn't care.

On the other hand, people who make a living selling the sexual favors of others tend to have a stigma in our society. In that sim, women are openly treated like cattle. They bear a brand that reads "Stock". They are sold at auction. He is into BDSM RL and that carries over into his attitude in SL. I had had zero exposure to BDSM prior to my afternoon in the slave auction sim and didn't know what to expect. I never expected it to be for me. I was there out of curiosity. I told the auctioneer from the start that I didn't intend to be sold as a slave. The attitude of men toward women in the BDSM environment is not one to which I am accustomed.

The opening premise of the thread was that this was an extremely odd experience. I stand by that: it was bizarre. Some would have found it exciting. The auctioneer must find the role of a pimp to be titillating, or he wouldn't be doing it. He would be making a living in other ways. Again, this is SL. If he enjoys being a pimp and is hurting no one, then where is the wrong in it?

Yes, all the people who come there go there willingly. This is SL. No one can make you do anything you don't want to do.

So what you are saying, if I read you correct, is that men who involve themselves in this lifestyle are inferior to you because you do not like the lifestyle. You cast your pearls before swine as it where? You have some level of majesty that allows you to cast unfavorable dispurssions upon anyone who chooses to live in a lifestyle that you are not "impressed" with?

You speak of these individuals though you have some higher moral terpitude that makes you opinion something that should be weighed in the balance of the throngs of SL citizens.

But I ask you this.....If you have such a higher moral terpitude, why did you go there again?
Curiosity?
A higher being as your self, should have never even hadsuch curiosity should you?
Oh, money, that was the reason, I forgot.
But wait, no, you have been slamming sex trade throughout haven't you?

So, why did you go, could it be you feel inticed into that lower scum sucking life form and now are having a guilt complex?

What business have you developed? What business ideas havyou developed that would encourage any single one of us who read your dribble to even consider anything you have said?

I kow the man you speak of and I am indeed convinced that he is indeed NOT a sex peddler. Anyone who says otherwise is a fool. You make statements about men being simple minded. But I say to you you are indeed simple if you do something out of curiosity that morally offends you rather than just pick up a book and read about it.

Maybe in the future, be abit nicer to those persons who's lifestyle you do no understand and they may tell you why they do what they do.

If you continue to look down your nose at others in this manner, you will be a pariah
that will alienate all who you encounter.

We all have our little secret desires, even you, if not our curiosity would have never carried you to slave training in the first place.

Clean up your own back yard miss.
You tend to your business and let others tend to their own.

All My Best To You

Rosie, what a great reply. You are so right, but i'm sure a lot of people are very disappointed to hear that you're not really a leggy blond. I thought everyone looked exactly like their avatars, i know i do <koff>.

As for sex...yes, there is sex in BDSM - shock horror! 50/50 split hardly makes Bull a pimp. Porn movies are there if you look hard, but the majority of the time we are hanging around, chatting, laughing and having farting contests. Lots of adult fun.

Giggles.

AGain, the opening primise of this thread was that an afternoon in a slave auction sim was a bizarre experience. Many things in SL are bizarre - flying, TPing. Like you, I am not a 23-year old beauty queen.

On the flip side, people who sell sex in our society are looked down on. It's our puritan heritage. Isn't the very forbidden nature of the slave auction a large part of it's allure? And no, there's nothing wrong with it.

I don't begin to understand why people choose BDSM in SL and certainly not in RL, but we're all different.

Absolutely not! I do not feel anyone is inferior. The fantasies of those who enjoy this sim are different than my own. I'm sure they would find my fantasies boring. Again, there is a stigma in our society regarding those who sell sexual favors. But this isn't RL, this is SL.

Are you trying to claim that I am inferior because BDSM is not my cup of tea? My claim is that I am entitled to not enjoy BDSM.


Ummm....and how is selling the sexual favors of others not being a sex peddler? You are wrong here. Sex of the BDSM sort is precisely what is sold in this sim.

Again, this was not a thread claiming that the sim was filled with an inferior species. This was my first encounter with this sort of philosophy and the point is that it was my most unusual SL experience.

Actually, Stuart, the irony of your opening argument is that the premise of the sim is that the women being sold at auction are inferior. They are branded "stock", not considered people. This is something they choose of their own free will. I would claim that the people who sell them and buy them are just as willingly branding themselves as slavers, again considered an inferior species in RL.

However, reality check here: this isn't RL. This is SL. You can do and be anything you want.

Methinks the people who protest do protest to strongly. It is difficult to defend being a pimp and a slaver, even in RP, when these roles are considered contemptible in RL.

Why is there a need to defend your right to RP as you wish? Or a need to defend your right to not RP in a way that you wish to not RP?

I would have been wrong in that statement if all BDSM was was sex.
It is not!!!!!!
You wouldn't know that as you didn't let your "curiosity" take you far enough.

For instance;

I have 4 slaves, each have different tastes in what they like, what they do that is special, what they feel about certain things.

I enjoy going and having a dance with my girls.
I enjoy discussing their day.
I enjoy being their friend and sharing my home with them.
We laugh together, we cry together.
We know each other in a way you could not phathom because you ARE LOOKING DOWN YOUR NOSE!

You see bdsm as sex only.....maybe you should read a book.