My Afternoon as a Slave in Training
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Denise Bonetto
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08-25-2008 09:32
From: Charly Muggins At the place I went to they had contracts which said how long and for how many hours a week they would be slaves. One girl was hiring herself out as a surogate mother for nine months. How does that work in sl. Some sims in Gor do fun auctions to raise money for the sim where people can put themselves up for usually a day or up to three days. Its all done in fun and usually those that are free people are the ones auctioned off with different limits and offerings. I was once put at the stake of love wars and ended up having to build something for the person who won me. |
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Love Hastings
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08-25-2008 09:32
From: Yosef Okelly Gor can be seen as a subset of BDSM. It is a very strict subset with rules for how all slaves are to act. Men are inheirently Masters and women are subserviant. . I certainly view Gor this way. Now having said that, there's a philosophy behind Gor, for some people. Such people may not see Gor as a subset of BDSM, but for the rest... yes. If you view SL Gor from the perspective of what people do (as opposed to why they do it), it's a very specific form of BDSM. Now having said *that*, SL Gor seems to be equally about RP'ing capture rollplay, fighting little skirmishes, and generally getting one's drama on. From what little of it I've actually seen. So you've got the virtual LARPers, and the virtual slave girls. *Shrugs* |
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Love Hastings
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08-25-2008 09:36
From: Cherry Czervik /me goes off to eat me dinner! With trifle for dessert?  |
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foehn Breed
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08-25-2008 09:38
Never been to Gor, never done Gor, no one I know in my odd circle of friends, advocates it.
I hear they have some really nice builds though.
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Kira Cuddihy
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08-25-2008 09:41
Yosef, you are very knowledgeable about this stuff. I had no idea.
/me throws a collar at him. I promise to be gentle with you hun, *hides the spanker behind her back*
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Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 09:42
From: Charly Muggins Not you Rose - that Ciera Spyker stuff. And stay away from Gor its like being maried in reverse /me is confused: married, in reverse? Sounds wierder than married in second gear.... better shift into neutral..... |
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Colette Meiji
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08-25-2008 09:43
There are Slave actions where the Slave gets the money?
That seems weird. Usually its the previous owner who gets the money when the slave gets auctioned.
A Slave auction where the Slave gets the money is called an "BDSM" Escort Agency I think.
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Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 09:44
From: Denise Bonetto Some sims in Gor do fun auctions to raise money for the sim where people can put themselves up for usually a day or up to three days. Its all done in fun and usually those that are free people are the ones auctioned off with different limits and offerings.
I was once put at the stake of love wars and ended up having to build something for the person who won me. This is more the sort of auction that appeals to me. I wouldn't mind doing a spot of building or scripting for a worthy cause. I'm becoming more and more convinced that you have an RP that's a lot of fun, Denise. |
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
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08-25-2008 09:45
My dolly came to visit me while I was gesture spamming in Hanja and we happened upon a cute little girl that was totally new and curious. We decided to help out and mentored her for about 2 hours or so... We all had fun, and she worked out a lot of what SL had to offer quite quickly...
... This morning... I met my new dolly...
/me faceplams and laughs. (^_^)y
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Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 09:47
From: Love Hastings
Now having said that, there's a philosophy behind Gor, for some people. Such people may not see Gor as a subset of BDSM, but for the rest... yes. If you view SL Gor from the perspective of what people do (as opposed to why they do it), it's a very specific form of BDSM.
...although the freewomen sort of RP that Denise is describing doesn't seem to fit in with the BDSM world at all... |
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Love Hastings
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08-25-2008 09:53
From: Rose Dove ...although the freewomen sort of RP that Denise is describing doesn't seem to fit in with the BDSM world at all... I missed that post. Anyhow, freewomen fit more with the philosophy of Gor. Accordingly, they are seemingly free, but since they cannot act on their utter and primal need to submit to men, they are the real prisoners in the society. Freedom in slavery and all that. You could, of course, argue the same feelings for some BDSM submissives. |
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Charly Muggins
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Join date: 25 Aug 2008
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08-25-2008 09:56
From: Colette Meiji There are Slave actions where the Slave gets the money?
That seems weird. Usually its the previous owner who gets the money when the slave gets auctioned.
A Slave auction where the Slave gets the money is called an "BDSM" Escort Agency I think. Perhaps you don't understand Colette. At this place lots of slaves don't have owners before they are auctioned and after their contract they don't have an owner again and not all the slaves said they wanted sex or BDSM although maybe surogate motherhood requires both. Heh heh heh
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Yosef Okelly
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08-25-2008 10:13
From: Kira Cuddihy Yosef, you are very knowledgeable about this stuff. I had no idea.
/me throws a collar at him. I promise to be gentle with you hun, *hides the spanker behind her back* /me catches the collar as a wicked smile spreads across his face. I do like leather, but this will not fit me. I will keep it safe with me and when you wish to have this collar back, you only need to ask. |
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Lear Cale
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Join date: 22 Aug 2007
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08-25-2008 10:32
I think that Yosef overgeneralized and blurred distinctions, though his observations are understandable.
Gor is a fictitious place from a set of science fiction novels by John Norman. Visit your favorite onine bookseller for more info, but note that these books are mostly out of print (IIRC). It has a strong BDSM element, because owning slaves and using them for sexual purposes is not only a significant theme element, the author argues that the master/slave relationship is the natural and desirable one between most men and women. (I strongly disagree.)
BDSM is simply a set of sexual practices involving, obviously, bondage, domination, and sado-masachism. You can have BDSM without Gor. It's hard to imagine Gor without some amount of BDSM, though that element figures even larger in role playing than it does in the books -- perhaps simply because it plays to the desires of the participants, and requires quite a bit less imagination and creativity than working up sci-fi plot elements.
There are a number of role playing groups that take Gor very seriously, making it a 24/7 thing. There are others where people take it less seriously, opting in when they feel like it, and playing the role to the extent they want.
I'm not a Gorean or BDSM fan. This is the opinion of an outsider who has no moral or ethical objections to this kind of role playing. I believe that it can be either positive or negative, depending more on the emotional health of the players than on the game itself.
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Charly Muggins
Just askin'
Join date: 25 Aug 2008
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08-25-2008 10:39
From: Rose Dove /me is confused: married, in reverse? Sounds wierder than married in second gear.... better shift into neutral..... No Rose. Being married in rl if you are a man is like being all the types of Gor slaves that have been mentioned rolled into one. I thought the marriage service said the bride was supposed to obey. I must have been more deaf than I thought at the time. I have to go now because the wife wants me to check all the toilet seats in the house are down.
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Lear Cale
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08-25-2008 10:53
From: Rose Dove AS a mom of five sons, I don't quite understand why anyone would want to RP pregnancy, but whatever floats your boat... I see your point, but surely you can understand that someone who doesn't have the option but feels the need might find some comfort or enjoyment role-playing it. This instinct runs deep, yet many can't fulfill it in RL, for any number of reasons, including being male, being infertile, or being in a social situation where it's not feasible. Personally, I've always been delighted that I was born male and unable to get pregnant, and that I adopted my RL son and didn't have to deal with all the hassles attendant on his mother's pregnancy. So, for me, it would take a lot of imagination to empathize with anyone who'd want to RP preganancy, but it's easy to sympathize. I'm not a fan of chatting fetuses, though.  |
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Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 10:57
From: Charly Muggins No Rose. Being married in rl if you are a man is like being all the types of Gor slaves that have been mentioned rolled into one. I thought the marriage service said the bride was supposed to obey. I must have been more deaf than I thought at the time. I have to go now because the wife wants me to check all the toilet seats in the house are down. Why men are happier than women =D: Men Are Just Happier People-- What do you expect from such simple creatures? Your last name stays put. The garage is all yours. Wedding plans take care of themselves. Chocolate is just another snack. You can never be pregnant. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. You can wear NO shirt to a water park. Car mechanics tell you the truth. The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another gas station restroom because this one is just too icky. You don't have to stop and think of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. Wrinkles add character. Wedding dress $5000. Tux rental-$100. People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them. New shoes don't cut, blister, or mangle your feet. One mood all the time. Phone conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. Y ou know stuff about tanks. A five-day vacation requires only one suitcase. You can open all your own jars. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness. If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend. Your underwear is $8.95 for a three-pack. Three pairs of shoes are more than enough. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to see wrinkles in your clothes.. Everything on your face stays its original color. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades. You only have to shave your face and neck. You can play with toys all your life. One wallet and one pair of shoes -- one color for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look. You can 'do' your nails with a pocket knife. You have freedom of choice concerning growing a mustache. You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes. No wonder men are happier. |
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Charly Muggins
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Join date: 25 Aug 2008
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08-25-2008 11:00
From: Rose Dove Why men are happier than women =D:
Men Are Just Happier People-- What do you expect from such simple creatures?
Your last name stays put.
The garage is all yours.
Wedding plans take care of themselves.
Chocolate is just another snack.
You can never be pregnant.
You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park.
You can wear NO shirt to a water park.
Car mechanics tell you the truth.
The world is your urinal.
You never have to drive to another gas station restroom because this one is just too icky. You don't have to stop and think of which way to turn a nut on a bolt.
Wrinkles add character.
Wedding dress $5000. Tux rental-$100.
People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.
New shoes don't cut, blister, or mangle your feet.
One mood all the time.
Phone conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. Y
ou know stuff about tanks.
A five-day vacation requires only one suitcase.
You can open all your own jars.
You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.
If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.
Your underwear is $8.95 for a three-pack.
Three pairs of shoes are more than enough. You almost never have strap problems in public.
You are unable to see wrinkles in your clothes..
Everything on your face stays its original color.
The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.
You only have to shave your face and neck.
You can play with toys all your life.
One wallet and one pair of shoes -- one color for all seasons.
You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.
You can 'do' your nails with a pocket knife.
You have freedom of choice concerning growing a mustache.
You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.
No wonder men are happier. These apply the same to SINGLE men and before you say that married men live longer than single men they dont it just SEEMS longer
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Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 11:04
From: Charly Muggins These apply the same to SINGLE men and before you say that married men live longer than single men they dont it just SEEMS longer /me offers Charly a slice of yummy apple pie |
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Kira Cuddihy
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08-25-2008 11:07
From: Yosef Okelly /me catches the collar as a wicked smile spreads across his face.
I do like leather, but this will not fit me. I will keep it safe with me and when you wish to have this collar back, you only need to ask. oh well, I tried. wanders off mumbling. |
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Derbor Torok
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08-25-2008 11:16
From: Colette Meiji There are Slave actions where the Slave gets the money?
That seems weird. Usually its the previous owner who gets the money when the slave gets auctioned.
A Slave auction where the Slave gets the money is called an "BDSM" Escort Agency I think. /me grins... Good one Colette! Judging people and what they do seems to be a sport in SL. I remember that thread with the guy who thought he was an RL vampire arguing that Goreans in sl were strange. Just find something you like and do that.. if that is being a slave in Gor, great! - If its being a minotaur with boobs.. Knock yourself out! Just don’t be a judgmental jackass and ruin other people's fun… .d |
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Derbor Torok
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08-25-2008 11:19
From: Charly Muggins Perhaps you don't understand Colette. At this place lots of slaves don't have owners before they are auctioned and after their contract they don't have an owner again and not all the slaves said they wanted sex or BDSM although maybe surogate motherhood requires both. Heh heh heh How can you be a slave if you don't have an owner? - I'm still with Colette .d |
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Yosef Okelly
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08-25-2008 11:21
From: Rose Dove Why men are happier than women =D
The world is your urinal. Everything else is superflous. That one statement says it all. |
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Yosef Okelly
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08-25-2008 11:23
From: Kira Cuddihy oh well, I tried. wanders off mumbling. Hmm, I seem to have an extra collar now. Pity to see it go to waste. |
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Love Hastings
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08-25-2008 11:28
From: Derbor Torok
Just find something you like and do that.. if that is being a slave in Gor, great! - If its being a minotaur with boobs.. Knock yourself out!
I ran into a minotaur with boobs a couple of months ago... I wonder. Was your example reaching for the absurd, or were you referring to something you've seen before? |
