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My Afternoon as a Slave in Training

Stormy Babad
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Join date: 12 Jun 2008
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08-25-2008 19:30
I was introduced to Master Bull by a very dear friend. I was completely clothed, showing around the SIM, was permitted to enjoy any of the things available there. I was welcomed with open arms and treated with nothing but respect and kindness. This was from Master Bull, his family, and all others that visted the SIM.

I showed up again the next day to look around and was greeting by Master Bull himself. He ask me if I had made up my mind; or completed the paperwork and I had. He reviewed it and we discussed it. He then told me what he wished me too do; undress, wear the butt tattoo and change my profile. He did not demand that I do so; he only ask and I was so willing to do so.

I think that many are using auction here; but I know that I never was near the auctual auction. It was a private viewing and was to be a private sale. I kneeled for Master Bull, yes with legs open and nude. I proudly wore the collar and shackles; that he provided for me. I was placed for viewing twice; and I was so nervous and trembling. Was this because of Master Bull, his family, or anyone that was there to view me..............No. This had to do with my own issues. My own fear of others viewing me nude; nothing else. I was treated with nothing but respect, dignity, and as a wonderful person during my entire experience at Bonanza.

When, I let me fear rule me, and decided that I could not follow through. I sent Master Bull a notecard and tried to explain my fears and why I felt that I could not follow through. It was not because I did not want too; because I did and still do. It is my fear that I must overcome of being naked and vunerable. Do, you think when I backed out after he and his family had invested time and money into me that I was treated badly? I was not; once again I was still treated with respect, dignity, and concern. I was concerned that he would be upset with me; however, he tried to reassure me that it was ok and told me repeadly "don't you worry."

I will never hold anything but a great deal of respect for Master Bull and with the time that I have spent in SL and met many Masters; there is only ONE other that I can say that about. The other would be the dear friend that made the introduction. I have found that Master Bull was not upset with me or disappointed in me; that I could not follow through. I was disappointed in me and much more dissapointed in myself. I hope that one day soon; I can overcome my fears and be able to go to Master Bull and say "I am Ready".
Rhiannon Meredith
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Join date: 27 Aug 2007
Posts: 58
08-25-2008 19:55
My experience was very different from Stormy's experience.

First of all, my introduction to the sim was naked and shackled. And when I got disciplined by the collar, the whole thing was so bizarre to me I didn't even realize what was going on until it was too late to respond. Then there was the otder to go dance on the poles naked. I was simply out of my element there. Yes, my feeble attempt at emoting was horrible, as Chloe pointed out. I was so far out of my element, all that was on my mid is "how soon can I gracefully get out of here"? I wasn't having fun, I didn't know what was going on, and it felt like sex for sale. Sex for sale is not my thing. I realize that some SL women are into it, and that is their prerogative. It is just not anything I have ever wished to do.

So this is all trying to make sense out of what was a very disturbing experience that was so completely foreign that it has taken this long for me to begin digesting it.

Then we have all the BDSM folk piling on, telling me how I'm hypocritical, anti-sex, anti-men, clueless as a rock, and narrow-minded because I didn't immediately embrace BDSM.

Well, I guess this was a learning experience. Even though SL is a virtual world, not everything can be investigated painlessly.
Jessika Lannock
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Join date: 23 Aug 2008
Posts: 1
dear Miss Rose
08-25-2008 19:55
i am one of the girls that resides at the auction house you visited yesterday. i'm hoping you remember me. i worked with you for a little while. i was very angry with this thread earlier but was asked by Miss Kadin not to post until i had calmed down. i'm calmer now, and i'm hoping that you will listen to what i have to say and not feel attacked.

as a stranger to walk into our world, you were very brave. but because you were a stranger, what you saw you didn't understand at all. i'm watching everyone tell you that slave auctions aren't about sex. but sometimes, they unfortunately are. there are lots of slave auctions on sl that are mostly about sex. then there are the good places. where you visited is one of the good places. BDSM and the good slave auctions aren't about sex. sex can be put together with BDSM (which makes it twice the fun), and yes there's a sensuality about a slave on the block, but it's maybe 10% of everything. just like life. sex is there and part of it, but it's not the focus. if it is, something's seriously broken.

since it's kinda hard to physically show our hearts and souls, showing skin, or opening our legs while we sit is our way of showing trust and gratitude. we depend on our Owners to take care of us, protect us and give us needed structure in our lives. that's a lot of trust. we give our Owners our best efforts, our full attention, and our devotion. we trust our Owners with everything we are. and yes, if we end up with a bad Owner, we are royally screwed.

where you visited, sometimes a slave asks to be sold because they are looking for a good Owner. sometimes it is the thrill of having their future totally in the hands of Fate. sometimes it's because they want to see what different Owners are like, or to gain experience. but ultimately, somewhere in their head and heart, it's because they want to be of valuable service to someone.

there is laughter and caring and flirting going on everywhere from slave to slave and guest to guest and slave to guest and, well, you get the picture. but let one idiot come in with disrespect and force my cuffs to bind me up because the idiot knew how to use them and i didn't yet? man, that fellow didn't get to stay long, and he's never coming back! ejected, muted and banned, which is the only real punishment i've ever seen given out to a slave or a guest. anything else is just us goofing around and having fun.

i know that you saw a slave on display yesterday. i think that you thought it was an auction. it was actually a chance for buyers to come and visit the slave, and to get to know the slave, instead of just buying some unknown piece of meat. i understand that while you heard lots of things about the slave you thought was sexual, a lot of it is to help communication too. especially voice capable. also, one of the things you mentioned was that a slave's skills aren't advertised. i watched a slave come in the gates and be sold in hours for a very hefty price because the slave was a professional builder in sl. believe me, that slave's new Owner isn't using the slave for sex *giggles*

it really is ok for BDSM to not be your thing. but it's also ok to want to learn about it anyway. honor and honesty. open, honest communication. safe, sane and concentual. respect and trust. these are the heart of our community. they are what make us so different from others. sometimes, from the outside, some of our kinks look like they go against these words, like someone who likes to feel humiliated, but these are our cornerstones and guides.

respectfully submitted,

jessi
Owned by Master Bull Hynes
Colette Meiji
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08-25-2008 20:01
Why is Bull whosiewhat having his slaves write essays and post them in this thread?
Rhiannon Meredith
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08-25-2008 20:04
Bull Whosie sent a message in the group notes for the group directing them to come here.
Nika Talaj
now you see her ...
Join date: 2 Jan 2007
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08-25-2008 20:05
From: Colette Meiji
Why is Bull whosiewhat having his slaves write essays and post them in this thread?
All that emoting, slaves have to be pretty darn articulate, I guess.

All I know is, if this is an advertising stunt cooked up between Bull and Rose, it's a doozie!
:rolleyes:
Colette Meiji
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08-25-2008 20:06
From: Rhiannon Meredith
Bull Whosie sent a message in the group notes for the group directing them to come here.


thank you for providing a counter to the obviously biased testimonials in any case.
Colette Meiji
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08-25-2008 20:07
From: Nika Talaj
All that emoting, slaves have to be pretty darn articulate, I guess.

All I know is, if this is an advertising stunt cooked up between Bull and Rose, it's a doozie!
:rolleyes:


ahh interesting conspiracy theory

Considering we haven't heard of any of them.
Rhiannon Meredith
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08-25-2008 20:12
From: Colette Meiji
ahh interesting conspiracy theory

Considering we haven't heard of any of them.


Nope. I'm just a poor schmuck trying to make sense out of being collared, zapped, and paraded naked on a dance pole, then told I'm hypocritical because I didn't like it. =D
Rhiannon Meredith
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08-25-2008 20:13
Uh oh. wrong av. Ignore this. Ther eis nothing to see here...
Bull Hynes
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08-25-2008 20:15
From: Rhiannon Meredith
Bull Whosie sent a message in the group notes for the group directing them to come here.

Actually, all I did was send a thank you notice to the folks that have stepped forward and had kind words. I included the url to the forums so folks would not wonder what the "thank you" was regarding. As far as Me telling folks to come and post here, get REAL.
Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 20:19
From: Bull Hynes
Actually, all I did was send a thank you notice to the folks that have stepped forward and had kind words. I included the url to the forums so folks would not wonder what the "thank you" was regarding. As far as Me telling folks to come and post here, get REAL.



And I don't mind in the least that you have muted me. I really hadn't intended to talk to you anyway.
Bull Hynes
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08-25-2008 20:23
From: Rose Dove
And I don't mind in the least that you have muted me. I really hadn't intended to talk to you anyway.

/me looks for the mute button for these forums.
Colette Meiji
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08-25-2008 20:25
From: Bull Hynes
/me looks for the mute button for these forums.


User CP up in the Left Corner.
Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 20:28
From: Bull Hynes
/me looks for the mute button for these forums.

Easy. Just don't open Internet Explorer. =D
Love Hastings
#66666
Join date: 21 Aug 2007
Posts: 4,094
08-25-2008 20:49
From: Cherry Czervik
I am saying NOTHING. Nothing ... :)

(Actually I agree with you in your comment that Gor can be seen as a type of BDSM, just not as a SUBSET of BDSM ... picky I know, but I realise we're on the same page with that one :) )


Heh. I can be picky too... so here goes! A subset of 1 element is still a subset.

*Walks away whistling, thinking of her math degree*


To all those people who have taken offense at Rose's comments: I think you've misinterpreted her intention. She has admitted to having zero experience with BDSM, felt her visit was remarkable enough to warrant a post, and posted her experiences. Coloured as they were by her vanailla'ism, they were clearly not hateful or derogatory in nature.

For someone who's had only an afternoon of exposure, and professes to have no personal attraction to the lifestyle, I think her comments were remarkably open minded.

There is also her opinion on what you were doing as been sexual in nature. She thinks what she saw was, and you don't. There is no "absolute" here. You are both right to have your own opinions. Her opinion, as it is, is not an inherent attack on you all.

Certainly, the continual comments about having no "f'n clue" don't further your cause any.

Finally, it's worth pointing out that she did not name the venue, nor anybody within it. You have managed to "out" yourselves on the forum.
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Love Hastings
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08-25-2008 20:59
I confess I am chuckling at "Master Bull". Sorry.
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Rose Dove
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08-25-2008 21:08
From: Bull Hynes
/me looks for the mute button for these forums.

Then you didn't send that post in your group forums telling people that there was something interesting going on in the forums and posting this URL?
Must have been the tooth fairy then
Colette Meiji
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08-25-2008 21:14
From: Rose Dove
Then you didn't send that post in your group forums telling people that there was something interesting going on in the forums and posting this URL?
Must have been the tooth fairy then


Thats Master Tooth-Fairy to you.





:p sorry could. not. resist.
Senga Tsarchon
Clinging to the future
Join date: 16 Dec 2007
Posts: 185
08-25-2008 22:46
From: Desmond Shang
Hey, I know very little about this - what kind of market is it? A commodities market?

Do they have an index fund?

Can you sell short, or hedge your investment?

Say you were buying and trading rapidly on margin, and then the market suddenly dropped - would you then have to take delivery on 500 unsold?

Perhaps they have a daily market analysis?

"The market sagged mid-day in light trading, and limp sales persisted until suddenly available shares of Bambi and Heather perked up to inspire a late afternoon rally... Looking forward into Q4 2008 the market seems pregnant with opportunity, but costly related consequences some months later may trigger unexpected, recurring burdens..."

* * * * *

The whole thing just scares me and feels wrong on many levels. I'll stick to vast tracts of land instead, thank you.

You are a sick, twisted man. Will you have my baby?
Cherry Czervik
Came To Her Senses
Join date: 18 Feb 2006
Posts: 3,680
08-26-2008 00:32
From: Bull Hynes
Actually, all I did was send a thank you notice to the folks that have stepped forward and had kind words. I included the url to the forums so folks would not wonder what the "thank you" was regarding. As far as Me telling folks to come and post here, get REAL.


I would back him up here, I'm sure he did not in any way ask anyone to come here.

The people who did might want to consider how it looks that they popped up purely to wage war on ONE person, having never used the Forums.

I hope this is the end of this sorry tale. I should also apologise to Bull because my original phrase was clumsy - I was trying not to name names in my original post.

***

Love - meh! :) OK I asked for that by not using the term in it's applied sense. LOL.
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Bith Wierwight
Odd Bird
Join date: 26 Feb 2008
Posts: 236
08-26-2008 02:05
18 pages! Dang I wasted too much time of my life watching this unfold. Anyway, an interesting quasi-anthropological post turns into an barely-literate war of name-calling: gotta love the internet -- where anyone with a keyboard can pile on. The OP deserves kudos for keeping her cool. I'd have gone all nutty when the hordes arrived with the crazy-talk and accusations. If what you're doing is okay with you, why show up on a board needing to fervently defend? Hmmm? All you've done is make me think that YOUR world is full of messed-up scared, defensive people. Who wants to hang out with them? Just sayin' .


I don't care if you're a dog, or a butterfly, or an elf, or wear chains. But if you just log on to a message board to attack someone...you just look bad. Yes, I look like I'm lecturing...but what I'm really saying is: YOU are lecturing, like the worst sort of PC shouters. As in no one dare contradict you EVER, even if that contradiction is only in your mind. That's nasty. If you are happy doing what you are doing, FINE. So go do it and be happy. I support that. But don't expect every human to be equally into it...and if you want more to be into it...try sugar, because your vinegar isn't working.
Denise Bonetto
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Posts: 705
08-26-2008 02:50
It really doesn't look good how many first time posters came running here to knock the OP, can't believe how this thread has gone since I last visited it.
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Rose Dove
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Stock Rules
08-26-2008 03:51
Here are the rules for "stock", i.e., slaves up for sale at the auction:

XXXXX Stock Rules:

***THESE RULES APPLY AT ALL TIMES YOU ARE BEING PREPARED FOR AUCTION WITH XXXXXXXX SLAVE AUCTION HOUSE***

1. Obey all orders of Master Bull

2. Address Master Bull as "Master Bull", not "Sir" or just "Master" ("Master", alone, is used only by girls who are part of Master Bull's official Family. When using the word "you" always say "You" with a capital "Y" when addressing Master Bull.

3. Master Bull is VERY busy and therefore has a limited capacity to respond to make idle chat or get into a lot of IM's.

- Therefore, try to be as quiet as possible in chat.

- Furthermore, although He will take some, avoid IM's as much as possible. Don't IM him unless you think it is important. If you are in IM with Master Bull and He cuts you off, don't be surprised. Remember He is in charge, and you are only property for sale, if you are lucky.

- The girls in Master Bull's Family -- those with his "Slave", "Angel", or "Family" tags -- can answer most questions; try IM'ing them first.

4. Although Master Bull will give orders He expects you to obey, and expects you to treat Him as you would a Master, He is not actually your Master. Do not expect Him to treat *you* like he is your Master other than giving you orders to obey. You will get a Master or Mistress upon being bought at an auction, when you think are ready AND when Master Bull decides you are ready. Until then, how well you obey Master Bull and treat Him as a Master will determine your value to Him as auctionable stock.

5. Master Bull is looking for the proper submissive attitude in stock . Anything your common sense and previous experience (if any) tells you shows a truly submissive attitude will increase your value to Master Bull as an auction stock item.

6. Master Bull wishes that stock stay at the Bonanza location at all times when you are on line before you are auctioned -- whether He is or not. However, if there is a compelling need to leave, you may ask Master Bull for permission if He is not busy, or if it appears that He is busy, at least notify Him when you go and come back. Again, use your common sense, letting Rule no. 5 above be your guide.

7. Master Bull insists, however, that RL come first. If RL must draw you away, you should go, and need not ask for permission from him, but do be sure to notify Master Bull that you are leaving, and when you come back. Of course, asking for permission -- *IF* He is not obviously busy -- can't hurt. Remember again Rule no. 5.

8. Master Bull expects stock to wear the collar He gives them at all times. Master Bull does not want them remove the collar even if off on their own and not at the Bonanza site. If you think you want to be a slave, this is what it is like. Remember Rule no. 5.

9. Master Bull expects stock to be completely nude at all times, with the following exceptions:

- First, collar and cuffs

- Second, body piercings (but no facial piercings other than earrings) and tattoos which might meet with His approval

Third, shoes that meet with His approval

Fourth, when NOT being auctioned (only), SL-style "silks" that do not cover your breasts, except that you may have silks on any nipple piercings you might be wearing

Lastly, if you have to leave for an SL emergency, you may dress for that, but strip again when you return to Bonanza.

Also, if Master Bull directs or takes you somewhere which is not clothing-optional, He will tell you to get dressed, and may specify what you are to wear.

***IMPORTANT: Naturally, if Master Bull dislikes anything you are wearing (or for any other reason at his merest whim) he may order you to remove it, regardless of the list above, and you should do so. Remember Rule no. 1 !

10. Master Bull uses stock to support His store as well as his auctions. Therefore, He expects you to do ALL of the following:

- First, while at the store you will you will stay near the entrance ("main landing" on the teleporter) and greet His customers unless He tells you to do something else.

- Second, ***DO NOT make OR accept any solicitations for sex, for money or for free.*** Master Bull does not allow that, with no exceptions. You are at the store as an aid and promotional tool for the auctions and store, NOT as a free-use toy.

- Third, familiarize yourself with the layout of the store site so that you can find your way around and direct others. This includes knowing how to get around the site using the teleporters, which are brightly colored pads on the floor . There are also pose stands under the stairs if you need one.

- Fourth, put the store as a "Pick" under your profile.

- Next, put the following message in your profile:

- House slave at XXXXXXXXX, Market & slave Auction... Soon to be auctioned. For more information, see picks tab.

- Finally, (***IMPORTANT***) remember that at all times you when you are exposed to Master Bull's customers -- whether before the auction, while working in the store, or afterwards, once you go to auction or have been auctioned -- that how you perform for your new Master or Mistress will reflect directly upon Master Bull. What the public thinks of you will affect what they think of His business. Master Bull will go to considerable effort to promote and accomplish your sale and you have an obligation to Him to conduct yourself in a way that brings nothing but the highest credit to Him and the store and auction house. ***Do not ever forget that -- remember once more Rule no. 5***

11. What Master Bull expects to make good, marketable stock:

- First, the right attitude (per Rule no. 5)

- Second, a good body shape and skin. He may provide these at his discretion. If not, remember that what He wants are lots of smooth curves. Large breasts in SL are a problem because they get blocky or squared and not smoothly curved. Your breast size should stay below 75 at the most.

- Third, the right AO (Animation Overrider). He will provide one at His discretion. **Be sure to detach ALL other AO's other than what He may give you**

- Last, anything else He may tell you. Remember always Rule no. 1 !

12. Do NOT under ANY circimstances ask Master Bull "when will I be sold?". This will be determined by several things, some of which are how well you listen and conduct yourself and the time of day and week you arrive. Master Bull has sold in excess of 1.7 million and KNOWS what He is doing.

**************** IMPORTANT FINAL NOTES ****************

***THESE RULES APPLY WHILE YOU ARE IN THE POSSESSION OF MASTER BULL***

***AFTER YOUR SALE YOU MUST OBEY THE RULES OF YOUR NEW MASTER OR MISTRESS FOR THE TIME PERIOD YOU ARE IN THEIR POSSESSION***
Dekka Raymaker
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08-26-2008 04:04
From: Rose Dove
This includes knowing how to get around the site using the teleporters, which are brightly colored pads on the floor featuring the *Yellow Rose of Texas* on them prominently.

OMG it's Pee Wee Herman!
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