a Newbie with a Kid avvie

Come on, you are talking of people's 'rights' to do what they want, but we are all restricted by what society believes is right or wrong. Sometimes we have to restrict people rights. Such as murder. Do you think it's someones right to murder a person? I feel the same way about child porn. It may restrict a person's 'right' to masturbate to simulated child porn, but I believe it is right. I believe i'm with the majority. You may shout about the 'tyranny of the majority', but hey, tough.

Sure, and I agree with you up to but not including the part about beating to death. I'll settle for them getting psychological treatment. But if someone writes a book about, oh, say for example a middle aged man having an affair with a young teenager, I don't think that should be a crime.

Does the book go into detail about about sexual acts with a minor? I saw the movie but I don't remember sex scenes.

OK then. What stops me is a view I have been enculturated to that children are off limits sexually. I can not respond to what I would do accurately as I do not find children sexually attractive. Whether or not a person feels that being sexually attracted "ruins" others, the fact is that children in our modern society do not have a toolkit to deal with sexual matters yet. Its all fairly well understood by the mental health community that exposing a child to sexual advances damages them because they do not have to toolkit or armor or skill set or whtever to cope with it. And finally, no. I would not have sex with a consenting adult that had intimacy or other issues. Possibly relating to childhood trauma. It's amazing that anyone is arguing the other side of this to me. But I guess there were people arguing for extermination of Native Americans and arguing against segregation as well.

*sighs*
I)manga is not animated.
II)i wasn't suggesting all anime fans like shota or yaoi.
III)i have family in Japan, i'm not making an assumption from the other side of the world.

i asked because 1) i wanted to know the article link, 2) i thought that the forums where a place for intelligent discussion that i find in-game... mostly i was wrong, 3) i wanted to know if this was so prevalent in SL that there was an article written about it. I didn't think it was a prevalent thing in SL, nor have I encouraged that prevalence so far. it is my adult choice if i choose to in the future.
i have not, nor will i ever commit a crime against a child sexually. i think its hypocritical that a "lolita" av or an av that looks like a child but says its an adult is okay with everyone here arguing against my views but an av that looks like a child and says its a child is wrong. did you not see that post? someone puts their child av in leather bondage? Oh, but thats okay because they say its an adult av that "looks" young. pure bs. pure bs.

my intent was not to light a grenade and run away. but then the path to hell is paved with good intentions.

just as nothing can justify sexually attacking a real life child, nothing can justify attacking me. i never said it was okay for children and adults to have sex in real life.

children are aesthetically unappealing, smelly and gross to me. the clean manga images are nothing like real children to me, which is why i like them. i will not try to convince anyone here about my life because i feel i have done nothing wrong. if you must contact authorities about me, then I invite you to do so. i am not afraid because i know the lines of reality and fantasy.

1) Animated as in drawn.
2) Thank you for clearing that up.
3) ?


Oh, and the road to hell is actually paved with hot tar and broken glass :\

No, Never.



I'm not sexually attracted to children and I would never harm a child.


Because it is gross terrible, despicable and I don't want to harm children.





I don't find them sexually attractive and anyone that does and acts on it does desire to ruin their lives



No. Do you masturbate in your own feces while looking at child porn?



No I wouldn't. My sexual satisfaction isn't worth ruining anothers life.


And your point?

What is your point is asking these questions? Because my answer is a NO. Why? I'm not a pedophile. Nor am I attracted to young, androgynous men. And I'm not a school teacher named Mary Kate.

I have no idea. I haven't read it because the subject matter is really not my cup of tea. I did see the (first) movie because I was briefly a film student a long time ago and watched everything Stanley Kubrick made.

But I really don't think it matters whether it goes into detail or not. It certainly romanticizes the idea and eroticizes the 12-year old character. Do you really need the details beyond the fact that Humbert Humbert had sex with her and liked it?

I remember thinking in the movie that the actress did not look even close to 12, more like 16, probably to avoid controversy.

There is no treatment that can cure someone that finds children sexually attractive....even pedophiles have said so. One went as far as to have himself castrated. Didn't work....with the invention of testosterone patches he molested a child again.

Pedophiles deserve no less that death.....

But mostly it's paved with pedophiles.

Meh. Fuggedit. Not worth the hassle.

Yes it does matter, and if you think it doesn't you have missed the point of this thread entirely.

as the thread starter, Ingrid, i think _you_ have missed the point of this thread _entirely_.

Nope... I didn't. Children represented in a sexual manner.

so how is Cromulence off point?

the laws are abit thornier than that. A child pornographer who attempts to solicit someone whom they believe is an underage child but who is actually a law enforcement officer did not 'engage in sexual activity with a minor' in actual fact, but they are still very very culpable to the laws at hand.

If you are up front about your RL age in your profile etc so that the people whom you are talking to know (or could easily know) that you are a RL adult playing it may be less directly illegal, but in general your argument that 'no children were harmed' by your play, should you excite a real RL paedophile, has no way of ever being 'fact' since you have no idea what the person on the other side of the screen will take away from your 'encounter' into their RL life. Mabye they just see it as being silly too, mebbe they're going to get whipped up and seek out some RL form of release, you have no idea.

Aaaahahahahaha. Make that completely wrong. Serious discussion does not happen here, just occasional one-upmanship and ingroup circle jerking. Oh, and then someone calls someone else something really bad like "idiot" and Jeska Linden comes along and edits it out.

I think this just came along at exactly the right moment--when it was becoming apparent the whole "alt" issue was fizzling out--to be the next big drama bomb. Awesome!

I'm sorry ...I wasn't trying to dissmiss you.

although it had nothing to do with my original points I brought up age because one or more posters have said " we're all adult here" when in actuality we know that children have been in the grid. So the very real possibility is that if someone who wants to be with pretend children and finds out there is a child in the midst and decides to act on it then the act wouldn't be between two consenting adults.

Because Cromulence is refering to a book where there is no explicit scenes involving minors having sex with adults. At least to my knowledge.

no one has any idea, it pointless to me to try and think up all the myriad results of my actions on SL. i could say a swear in WA and a monitor can get peeved and a co-worker can get frustrated by the moderator's attitude and drive home angry which will make another person miss their exit which makes them mad by the time they get home and they give their wife the cold shoulder which makes the woman ignore her teenage daughter who goes upstairs and realizes she will never be Jessica Simpson and so slits her wrists. If i sat here and thought up everything that could possibly happen because of some simulated animations i click on in SL, then I would never had paid to play SL in the first place.

edit: by the way it says in my profile that i am 19 years old.

Thanks Cromulence for dismissing everything I and lots of other forums members have posted. I rarely get into threads unless I feel strongly about something.

I think what you mean to say is serious discussion doesn't doesn't happen here unless you feel that the thread is going the way you'd like it to.

Crom is talking about "Children represented in a sexual manner." <-- those are your words. therefore he is not off point. next.

Actually, I'm all for not taking this thread seriously at all anymore.

Having sex with kids is illegal, and against the *vast* majority of people's morals, including mine.

Now, who wants a lollypop? *^_^*

If someone was molesting/abusing a child, or planning to do so, I'd be right there with you, rake in hand.

However, would you beat people to death for the thoughts that cross thier mind, even though they have committed no wrong act or in anyway prepared to commit a wrong act? Hmmm....best hope no one ever peeks into your head, because you might get beat with a steel rake, for whatever thoughts considered indecent or disgusting by the general populace. The human mind is full of many thoughts and we often shock or disgust ourselves or repress thoughts that we feel shame about or are disturbed by, but we have them just the same.

I would venture to guess that there would be a large majority of men, if hooked to a mind reading machine or lie detector and had a naked, attractive, 13-14 year old girl led into the room, that would be guiltyof having fleeting, or not-so-fleeting sexual thoughts or feelings. Many would immediately repress them, but they would happen. We are influenced by instincts left over from our evolution. Again, we are sexual animals.

The same would certainly be true of women, with a 13-14 year old boy. Have you been reading the news lately? We are sexual, and attracted to the opposite sex, usually when they develop features that clearly highlight thier gender, such as breast growth, curves, musculature, etc. Very young brides/grooms have been prized in many cultures since the dawn of recorded history.

Would that mean that all those people guilty of having such fleeting thoughts would be likely to go out and have sex with 13-14 year olds? That they would be a danger to young teens? I think not. It would prove them human, and nothing more.

Now someone that becomes obsessed with such things, and can't control thier urges or attractions, might indeed be a danger. But consenting adults acting out roleplaying scenerios or even folks creating drawings of such, isn't proof of intent to commit illicit acts upon children. It may be disgusting to you or me and offend you, but it is not, in itself, any kind of indication of intent to actually abuse children.

As for playing the part of a child prostitute in public areas of SL, I would think that in very poor taste, and offensive to me, but I'm not sure, since no child is involved, that it would be illegal. However, LL might bring down a penalty for "offensive" behavior in a public area, which they could probably do if a adult AV were offering thier services in a public area and someone was offended.