a Newbie with a Kid avvie

thought police anyone ?

But it also doesn't mean that everyone can separate fantasy from reality. If it did, maybe we wouldn't have any incidents of child molestation. To me if there is ANYTHING that can be done to quell it, then it should be done. If I lose a little personal freedom in an online game to help achieve that, then I'm still for it.

No, My arguement isn't this point at all. I was mearly stating a fact that they can't prove.

Since when have threads *ever* stayed within just the boundaries of the original post? I actually feel my point is valid within the topic itself, tho.

*licks lollypop*

So you believe its acceptable to think about children sexually?

Ooooh, burned!

No, but I wouldn't leave someone who preaches some fundamentalist religion to look after my children either. There are all kinds of people I wouldn't leave to look after my children (and yes, I do have a child IRL) but that has nothing to do with what I think should or shouldn't be outlawed.

Is it so hard to understand that it is possible to find something absolutely repugnant without also believing it should be illegal? Don't you see the difference between defending someone's right to do something and defending the act itself?

If you people all live in the U.S. then no wonder this country has lost its way.

Well said. Also, shouldn't people be more outraged at simulated violence and killing? It's far more prevelant and the real act is very devastating to both children and adults. Yet we take guns, violence, simulated death and destruction all in stride. But bring up anime or roleplaying featuring underage-type fantasies and folks stomp around in moral outrage. Our society is so fucked up. If you wish to get mad at creations and actions between consenting adults, then please add killing, murder and general violence fantasies and art to your outrage list.

Do you think that people that look at child porn don't consider the option of commiting the act...I'm sincerely curious.

Hmmm...

I can see it, sorta, but it's too tenuous a connection for me to really get worked up about it, particularly this late in the thread.

So you believe that everything you find unacceptable should also be illegal?

I have a question for Zoe:

Why the hell did you post this in the first place?

Coming from an anthropological persepctive, the idea tht sexual mores are acceptable in one culture, so they must be acceptable in all is a complete fallacy. If cultural mores were trans cultural, they wouldn't be mores and we would have a lot less conflict on the planet.

I find your abrupt decision to leave akin to pulling the pin on a grenade, dropping it on the floor, and dashing out of the room. If you are so concerned about this, why not arrange for the the thread to be deleted.

Back to the anthropological perspective. Right or wrong the mores we have in the country where Linden Labs resides are the ones the game is bound by. So if the drinking age is 21 in the States, but lower in Germany, the U.S. law is what would apply, even for German players. I realize this doesn't relate exactly to the game, but you see the point.

Just because you feel like an acceptable practice in Nippon is something that you feel affinity for, that does not necessarily mean that you are going to be welcome to practice that affinity in a cultural context of western society, online or not. As for the accpeatble nature of this, I would be curious to hear from residents of Japan on their views of this. Because something is published and has a following, does not make it acceptable the wider culture. Our own dear Larry Flynt (sp?) of Hustler Magazine is proof of that. It is legal for him to publish, in a legislative sense. However in many peoples sense of cultural right and wrong, its a little gamey. Cetainly I am appalled by it, but it's legal and I feel that its a byproduct of a larger good.

That all being said, there are some behaviors that cross cultural lines, a great number of them are sexual, like the avoidance of incest and the protection of children. Differences do crop up, but those lie in the defintion of family and exactly what a child is. The fact that you feel so attacked is that you have pulled the string of one of your great hardwired insticnts, the protection of children. Citizens of the U.S. and most other industrialized nations tend to view childhood as something ending at the end of puberty, ie. the late teens. It is good you are 19 and playing the game as an adult, however the "attacks" on you are a visceral reaction that I would argue you fully expected as a citizen of the western (I assume) world. Your personal predilictions are you own, but you have brought them into the public light here and should not be surpirsed that a great number of people replied with disgust.

And all the anthro stuff aside, reacting from a personal level and hopefully as a future parent, I find what you are doing as disgusting and scary and would ask that you don't come near Sanctuary in Io and would respectfully suggest you curb your behavior before it begins to be a problem for the game and its residents.

(edited to corect spelling)

If someone has a problem seperating fantasy from reality, then they are already a threat to children/monkeys/bananas/sheep.



ACTUAL child porn? Not a clue. But since no actual children are involved in what everyone here is discussing, that's a moot point.

Come on Moleculor, even if it's drawn it's still children they're attracted to.

I don't have a problem with adults doing monkeys. Or bananas. And one of my best friends in SL is really into sheep so I can't pass judgement there.

Dear God! Someone think of the bananas!

We could kill everybody. That would stop it for sure.

Barring that, we could put our brains in sexless cyborg bodies and reproduce by cloning. I'm kinda warming to that idea, actually.

I don't agree with an adult prostituting themself in a child AV. I don't care if it's an adult. I used to think I had an open-mind, but I draw the line here. I'd rather die and take the world down with me than condone this shit.

Any child, any living is a sexual being, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're ready. A 5-year old can play with themselves but not know what the heck it is they're doing. Let alone will they know they can do things with other people. It just takes one sick "enlightened" fucker to show them the way.

"Good for you" for the people who claim they matured sexually early. Guess the rest of us are doomed to be sexually frigid just because we'd rather see kids act as KIDS. Personally, this topic disgusts me on such a level I can't help but hate and condemn anyone who condones the very simulation of child porn.

Yeah, there are some people who can find the romance in certain erotic fiction. But any writer with a little talent can take a rape and add some generic romance to it. It takes very open-minds to get off on that crap. But just because a few accept it, that doesn't make it normal.

Get help.

No, I believe any adult that views children sexually is a sick fuck and should be beaten to death with a steel rake.....does that answer your question?

A steel rake? I don't think that would really do that job very well.

Or just try to do as much as possible by minimizing it where we can, like SL.

I'll help him, a steel potato rake would work marvelously!

hmmm so animated or drawn acts of adults with children is fine then....I mean since no ACTUAL children were involved.

I guess depictions from the KKK depicting lynchings are fine too because no one was actually lynched.

No, I'm sure they do. Have you considered it? What's stopping you from sexually abusing a child? Is it because you think it's gross and terrible or because you don't want to ruin a child's life? Do you think if you found children sexually attractive you would have any more desire to ruin their lives? Do you have an uncontrollable urge to ruin the lives of people you find sexually attractive? Would you have sex with a consenting adult if you thought there was an a good chance that it would ruin their life?

I answered your question, will you answer any of mine?