a Newbie with a Kid avvie

Unfortunatly this had nothing to do with the original post or I feel the thread in general. I agree with you on the fact that you can love a child and not have sex with them ,but this thread is about adults performing sexual acts on each other while one (or both) look like children because it is some type of fantasy for a child to be involved in their sexual act.

If you do it with an adult looking AV that's played by a child I think you're screwed too anyway. So what's your point here?

Because we all know adults are incapable of differentiating fantasy from reality. I suppose you'd also like to ban books like Lolita. Jeez, I hate having to defend something that turns my stomach but I guess that's the price of freedom.

While we're at it, smoking marijuana is an illegal activity too, right? It encourages illegal drug use which might lead to somebody, maybe even a child, getting hurt or killed. I think anybody caught pretending to smoke marijuana should be banned and burned at the stake. I don't like it, and anybody who does is obviously messed up in the head. And anybody who disagrees with me is wrong, and probably a dirty pot-smoking hippie themselves.

I'll give L$5000 to the first person to show me any reputable research or statistics which conclusively prove that people who act out fantasies with other consenting adults in private are more likely to molest, rape, or otherwise abuse children. I've seen arguments presented in this thread which hinge on this, and at least one person has asserted that it is true, so someone should be able to prove it, right?

Yes but here? SL isn't a private environment.

HEY! Tchaikovsky had some great scores!

Shoot them video games and violent movies encourage murder. So they should be illegal.
Is that right ?

Oh I bet the Radik's are loving this thread!

Hmm..you could be right, though since child molestation has been going far too strong since long before computers, and it's very doubtful that many child molestors through the past 1000 or so years had access to pictures featuring anime or cartoons, I doubt very much that such material is in anyway the cause, or even an encouragement. though folks with a "urge" to do such beastly acts would indeed probably welcome access to such things.

It is indeed a tricky question. I can defend the right to create such cartoons, and the right of consenting adults to roleplay, and still cringe at the thought that those involved might possibly do such things with real children.

I can certainly make parts of SL private to me and whomever else I want.



Hey, do I get L$5000 if I provide links to proof of the opposite? I've already done so...

*blinks* I can't even really comprehend that I am getting opposition on this topic. It hasn't sunk in yet I guess.

You're seriously saying that you think that the simulated sexual exploitation of a child is okay??? Even though it's simulated, it's what it represents and encourages! I really can't believe that people think this is okay.

I understand that there are many viewpoints, and my viewpoint is not the only one.

But, do you really think this sort of behavior is okay and should be tolerated by the community?

Jessica

First of all can you prove everyone in Second Life is an adult? What if the person or persons like this so much they decide to venture into the kids grid when it opens? I took the original posters post in total I didn't see just the fact that they want to role play but also the fact of the Japanese anime depicting men and boys together....wheich later they said they enjoyed. when someone says these kind of things together it bothers the fuck out of me.

Yes, because we, the human race, have the ability to discern between fantasy and reality.

Those that don't fit into the definition of "insane", and already have problems to begin with.



You've brought that up enough times, I'm about to start saying "thou doth protest too much".

back in the day and as much so now they didn't use pics...they would most likely hang out across from the local school or playground and just watch.

So it's a fantasy when when someone gets off on child porn and then goes and rapes a kid? Are you saying that doesn't happen?

It certainly can be almost as private as real life. I can't see IM's passed between two other people, nor do i want to fly up 500m or so to see what those two people are doing up in thier platform. We all know sexual activities, conversations, fantasies take place in SL ALOT, yet I have rarely witnessed anyone bumping pixelated uglies (unless doing a photoshoot with sexual poses, which was my SL job at one time ).

I'm pretty sure the TOS covers public sexual displays, no matter what the specific fetish/fantasy.

Well, I am finished posting on this thread.

I personally think it's sick to even simulate the exploitation of a child in such a manner. That's just my personal opinion and you're free to agree or disagree. It makes my stomach turn to think that there are people that really enjoy this sort of role play, even in fantasy.

Jessica

You know what bothers the fuck out of me? It's when people say they "could care less" when they mean they couldn't care less. I can't stand that!

I also don't get people who like Dave Matthews Band.

You know, you're probably right, but I have to say, if the TOS condones this, I think they need to revisit their policies. I don't consider myself a prudish person in the least. But when it comes to kids, I just would like to see them left out of the sexual factor completely, on any level.

It wasn't so much directly said as implied.

I agree. There is a lot of difference between being attracted to small women and objectifying children. Simulated acts might very well reinforce a tendancy and lead to something more in a person's real life. Viewing children (and in my opinion animals) real or not, as sexual objects is not just a lifestyle choice. It is wrong and it is criminally deviant behaviour.

Can you prove anything anyone says to you about themselves at all in SL? Given that this is an adult game, all you can do is to trust them that they are in fact an adult when they say they are, unless you're saying we should never take anyones word for anything ever?

I just don't think its practical to behave like that - your argument is way wider than this one issue and if you go down this road then you're essentially saying there should be no adult material or interactions at all, just because there might be real kids around. You just can't reasonably expect that, because they damned well shouldnt be here, and if you are going to enforce that in any way, then surely any attempted segregation or age limit is pointless and we may as well just let the kids in and be done with it?

Think about it folks...if it means nothing then why are they doing it? You bet the person behind the screen is aroused if thats what they are into.... they are seeing the avie as a CHILD not an adult.

Would you leave someone who masturbates to "simulated" child porn to look after your children?

This is the first time i've ever came across rational people trying to justify child sex. I did not know that this happens in SL, i just hope the media do not find out.

No, why?

It is my understanding that there will be special efforts to identify and remove child predators on the teen grid.

Do you think that, if they hadn't gotten off on child porn, they would not have gone and raped a kid? I am sincerely curious.

It's been proven that people who shoot others usually buy a gun first. Does this mean all guns everywhere should be banned?

There are MILLIONS of people who own guns and who've never shot anyone. Billions, even. Just because an occasional person DOES shoot someone doesn't mean that all guns should be destroyed.