a Newbie with a Kid avvie

Personal fantasies are fine, everyone has them.

The sexual exploitation of children, even simulated, is not.

I can assure you, If LL choses to accept this behavior (and by 'accept this behavior' I mean turn a blind eye and not do anything) I will spend my 10 dollars a month somewhere else, and I hope others feel the same way. Yes, this is a society which has no limits, but there are connections between SL and RL. This behavior should not be allowed, in any way, shape, form, or fashion to happen and/or continue. I can't even believe that this topic is up for public debate in the forums.

I would really like to know what LL's stance on this issue is.

I stand by my original post. Censorship for this kind of activity, absolutely. It should not be allowed. Seek Professional Help.

Jess

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it is pointless if you belive as the original poster does. They stated they enjoy a Japanese form of animated man/boy sex.


Pedophilia is not defined as just the sexual act of raping a child. It encompases FANTASIES of doing so.

Pedophile: According to the American Psychiatric Association: "A person who over at least a 6 month period has recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (age 13 years or younger). The fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning. The person is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children. Not to include an individual in late adolescence involved in an ongoing sexual relationship with a 12 or 13 year old (straight or gay). Individuals with pedophilia generally report an attraction to children of a particular age range. Some individuals prefer males, others prefer females, and some are aroused by both males and females. Pedophila involving female victims is reported more than pedophilia involving male victims." 1

Pedophila: A condition in which an adult, usually male, is sexually attracted primarily to pre-pubertal children -- those aged 13 years or under. It is derived from two Greek words: ''pedo" means "child;" and "philia" means "love for." Most are attracted to children in a specific age group (e.g. 5 or 6). Fewer are attracted to young people of any age up to puberty.

And an adult who dresses up in childrens clothing is no more a child than a wolf in sheep's clothing eats grass and goes "baaaa".



You really think so? I don't. But ok. A person in a zebra costume is not an animal, no matter how much they walk around on all fours.

yup.

He actually cut the head off and held it in his palm like it was a mushroom cap.....makes me wince ....he was also missing other extremities....obviously his fantasy involved amputation

It should be very clear that child pornography, or engaging in any act which is illegal in the real world, is not allowed in Second Life (Terms of Service, 5.1(iii) states: users will not take any action or upload, post, e-mail or otherwise transmit Content that violates any law or regulation). If we suspect any instance of child pornography or exploitation in SL, we will report it immediately to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

Your missing the key difference, though, I think. Furries aren't even pretending to be animals, is the thing... So it's not beastiality in any form, even sim-beastaility.



That's why I said VR-beastaility No, of course it isn't 'real'.

I think this says it all. Bravo Robin thank you.

Just to point out, for some people innocence is very cherished...not because they want to violate it or desecrate it...but because they see the joie de vive that the innocent has within them.

Sex with children is a total desecration of this innocence, and that is indisputable, IMHO. But I can understand where the cherising of childhood comes from. Lewis Carrol, J.M. Barrie...and yes, even the oft-maligned Michael Jackson all felt more comfortable with kids than with grown-ups. That doesn't make them pedophiles...yet a lot of people want to brand them as such by simple association.

I'm not saying that this excuses molestation or anything...but I do feel people are quick to judge adults who easily interact with children.

If the sex or simulated sex is between two consenting adults, then it is fine. You can roleplay child/parent or whatever else you want. And no, pixels are NOT child pornography, nor is anime. No child is involved, thus no "child" in the child pornography. Does it encourage child molestation? I really doubt it, since most people sick and harsh enough to actually do something like that to a child would probably not need any encouragement. But who knows..?

While I would kill anyone that touched my son in an innapropriate manner, or severly beat any child molester I ran across, I still believe roleplaying between consenting adults is thier business and thier right. As long as one is able to seperate fantasy from reality, and act in a responsible way, then live and let live.

Also, on a side note, not that many years back in human history, 13 years old was the acceptable marrying age, right or wrong. However, I strongly stress that any sexual activity, even roleplaying, AV sex and cyber, take place only between consenting adults.

wich mean what exactly?
there is no child in SL

i second your point David

Actually, unfortunatly, it doesn't adress the point at all... Thus far, thankfully, nobody has had the gall to suggest involving real child pornography, which is what Robin seems to have been talking about

Any adult that wants to be around children such as Michaell Jackson does.....has a problem. He goes on trial soon they'll be picking the jusr next week. Supposedly they found some child porn in his house so we'll see.

There were major concerns about Lewis Carrol by his peers as well.

I easily interact with children but I don't have them around me 24/7 and I certainy don't sleep in the same bed with them like Jackson does.....he admits to doing this and he called it a beautiful thing.....makes ya wonder.

Well, the aforementioned article in the SL Herald involve a build in world. The build contained anime 'depicting' child pornography and was dealt with and removed from world by the Lindens. I disagree with you and still say Robin addressed this thread entirely.

Actually, in a followup post on that article, it turns out the lindens didn't remove it, it was taken down by it's creator.

Ahh, missed that.

anime child porn is even harder to detect you know, mainly because the child porn and lolita porn separtation line is ... thin and blurry

The reason LL would have removed said images was because they were in full view of passers-by, which is a violation of content rules, so Robin has said nothing about this thread.

then we are a bit going off topic

Research has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that molestors don't start with the act...they start with fantasising and certain materilas depicting the act....not in every case but the vast majority. I have no problem with role playing but the way the origial poster worded the post disturbed me and then to find out they enjoy a particular anime of the act didn't make me any less disturbed.

Yes, I know it is just drawings .....but it is much more than that .....I know many people that have anime and comic books but they don't enjoy seeing adults with children depicted in drawings.

What about those who aren't American? Surely the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children only covers the US?

Very well you win. Feeling non-combative today.

But they are representations of children. You don't find this wrong?

So what?

Link me to an article/research paper that shows that REMOVING the chance of fantasies or materials depecting such decreases the likelyhood of someone acting on such impulses, and THEN you'll have a point. Until then, all you've just stated is that 99% of people who die in plane crashes ate peas at one point in their life, and therefore eating peas causes plane crashes.



But they're not.

They're a representation of an adult pretending to be a child.

I guess some of us can seperate reality from fantasy a bit easier than others. *shrug*