Calling on mere tourists, users, consumers, players etc. to boycott MJW

I am a content Jew.

I am pretty happy with what's going on.

Don't worry Nolan, you are still invited to Pesach Dinner.

Didn't see this.

I thought when she said that, she was talking about the type of player everyone on here is always talking about - the kind who maybe drop in every Friday night or whatever to have some fun, who don't have what they consider a business or a going concern, who don't read the forums, and care little what LL does about anything, really.

I knew lots of players like that on TSO, and know lots of them here, so that didn't cause me any pause at all.

I figured she was making a point to PHILIP, to get him to see it in business-like terms. Which is talking his language, after all.

I never figured she was calling everyone but her some kind of tourist, despite how quickly so many here have leapt to assume she meant them.

I don't think it would have mattered WHAT she said, at this point, if you want to know the truth. There just would have been some other reason come up with for launching all this against her, instead of joining with her - as I did - to see some of these improvements come about.

Improvements which, by the way, as Cindy pointed out, sound perfectly fine on paper. Which is the place which counts.

So, what - I'm supposed to say, "No, Anshe, I won't work with you to get these improvements even though I agree with them all and this is the first sign that we may be able to get together and have a voice about them - because I'm sure you are an evil person with horrid ulterior motives harboring a superiority complex to me?"

I don't think so.

coco

You schmuck!

She WAS representing the group. She was chosen to be the spokesperson for the group in that meeting.

coco

What's on the menu? (I won't submit a guess, lest Katy accuse me of being racist again).

Some friend you are, Nolan.

coco

Really? You've always seemed more like a malcontent Jew to me

Yes, but you see, at other junctures in this thread and others, you claim that you are individuals and that you are not responsible for what the other officers say.

No Gelt for you this year, goy boy!

Is what you quoted from me not true?

I think it is, and that has nothing to do with friendship, strained though ours may be.

A. I would of course disagree that anyone's opinions and/or demands count for more than anyone else.

B. I don't think Anshe ever said anyone's opinions count for more than anyone else. I was believing she was stating that some people CARE a whole heck of a lot more than others, and should be listened to by the Lindens, because for one thing, they've put money into this as if it were a real business. If it's not a real business, why would anyone put themselves out to build one, as GOM did?

coco

LOL, good point. I think though the dichotomy is seen as between those who provide unreal "things" and others who provide unreal "entertainment" and/or unreal "services, however little water any of that holds.

Why don't I just stop SIGNING these posts. It's obvious I'm home and catching up on the whole thread, so this is just one long letter, really.

I think you need to replace the highlighted text with "assuming".

Gee that's odd, I could swear that just last week you were arguing that it was just a "game".

Perzackly what I was trying to say.

coco

And why would you? Your not a tourist, your an officer on the group these folks wish to boycott... So the question isn't who YOU are gonna boycott.. more who is gonna boycott YOU. What can I say? lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas.

... Seems they don't take too kindly to being told their second rate citizens, and are deciding not to buy products from you guys.

Seems pretty straight forward and resonable to me, they are voicing their opinions with their second wallets - and more power to 'em!

Siggy.

Hmm, after catching up on this thread, I feel myself in a weird position.

I feel bad for Cocoanut.

Now she doesn't seem as out-of-place on the Officer list of the MJW (except as spokesman and buddy of the founder). I mean, who else could do the job she's doing? Prokofy's behavior has him banned from the forum, so he can't defend MJW from scrutiny. Anshe, as has been noted, is less than diplomatic at handling public discourse. The others don't have the credibility to defuse bad will, nor the gumption to try (except perhaps Jauani). So that leaves Cocoanut as chief apologist.



INT. PRESSROOM - DAY (2003)

A dusty press room in the middle of the desert is packed with JOURNALISTS and other REPRESENTATIVES. At a PODIUM stands COCOANUT SAEED al-SAHHAF, Metaverkistan Minister of Information. She takes questions from the audience.

COCOANUT SAEED al-SAHHAF
You will all get your turn, please be calm! Agence-France, go 'head with--

AFP REPORTER
Minister Cocoanut, why does President Chung say that individuals who own no land deserve less say than Barons who--

COCOANUT SAEED al-SAHHAF
Those who own land deserve no less say! President Chung has never said this!

AFP REPORTER
But Minister Cocoanut, President Anshe just declared it publicly before the entire Parliament!

COCOANUT SAEED al-SAHHAF
President Chung said nothing of the sort. International Herald Tribune?

IHT CORRESPONDENT
Minister Cocoanut, though the goals of Metaverkistan are not on their face objectionable--

COCOANUT SAEED al-SAHHAF
Praise be unto Agni, someone agrees that the goals are good!

IHT FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT
Yes, but my question--

COCOANUT SAEED al-SAHHAF
It was not a question so much as a statement of support for this cabinet, and you have my thanks for expressing it. Next, I would like to brief you on...

COCOANUT SAEED al-SAHHAF is drowned out by a chorus of shouted demands from the audience of press. Somewhere in the West, a blogger is amused by the misInformation Minister's declarations and makes a blog entry about the blatant contradictions of the obvious.

FADE OUT

For all we know, she's thinking about it. I sure would be if I were in her shoes. Since GOM, I've been real glad I'm just a piddly little player not doing anything very risky or very desirable by LL.

Here we go.

coco

Well the song was originally done by bruce springsteen, in case anyone accuses you of incorrectly crediting the intellectual property of others.

From what I have observed of Anshe is that Anshe looks out for Anshe.
To have her head of a group trying to perserve justice is like asking the fox to guard the hen house. If this group was honest and above board we would not have heard it from a third party in the forums. They would proudly proclaimed to the world what they are doing. This is a good sign that something stinks.

After reading too many pages about Anshe and some posts that came a word short of calling her a pox upon the land. It is time for self examination. Like it our not we created her.
How did we do this? By maintaining a wild west/gold rush attitude about land sales.
Common sense be dammed just got to have that parcel and then heap insult upon injury we tell the noobs "oh you must own land" The cycle keeps on going. Perhaps if people from the start had used some simple common sense and even saying no, when buying land. We would not be in the situation that we are. Alas hind sight is 20-20 what to do now? Support the boycott.
Tier down, don't buy trinkets from people who support this group. As the old saying goes "money talks" When their cash flows starts going in the other direction you will have their attention. This goes for Linden Lab as well. This is something that should of been done a long time ago. I do not have a problem with people making money in Second Life. If you can find some sucker willing to fork over real money for virtual things. more power to you. In the same vein you should not complain when the people who are sucessful at this try to take over the world. For it is you who put them there.


Best Regards

Rox

Unless of course you read the whole thing, and not just pick a line to interperet.


Anshe Chung: Whereas need to note that we are very much based on people who consider themselves stakeholder in SL
Anshe Chung: So we are less representative of the "casual player" which of course we also meet in this world

and so we are less representative of these casual players...

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Enbran - you don't know how close to the truth that is

You should go check out SLUniverse -- interesting things await those who seek

I really hate it when people make statements like this.

"Why people consider Anshe Chung poorly" - takes it for granted people actually DO. As in EVERYBODY "considers her poorly." (Which would imply they aren't adept at considering, but that's neither here nor there.)

"Why people don't like you" - takes it for granted that people actually DON'T. As in NO ONE does.

This is the sort of character assasination that shouldn't go on on these boards.

Remind me to tell you the story sometime of my stint as a waiter in the restaurant of a primary Jewish apartment complex here in Miami Beach. The tale of Jack and Gertrude Feldstein will make you vaclempt, and you'll come back for the gefilte fish.