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Gabe Lippmann

"Phone's ringing, Dude."

Join date: 14 Jun 2004

Posts: 4,219

07-04-2006 18:27

From: MadamG Zagato

Not only that but some people actually pay for an additional account. So which is the alt of either account?

You just made my head explode. My alt is still OK though.

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MadamG Zagato

means business

Join date: 17 Sep 2005

Posts: 1,402

07-04-2006 18:28

From: Gabe Lippmann

You just made my head explode. My alt is still OK though.

LOL Gabe

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Khashai Steinbeck

A drop in the Biomass.

Join date: 15 Oct 2005

Posts: 283

07-04-2006 22:32

I would never, ever, divulge information about my alts to anyone except my closest friends. The reason I have alts is so I can be left alone. Sometimes I get a little tired of answering hundreds of IMs a day, the alts provide me with a way to escape from this, if only for a short time.

The same thing goes for my friends' alts. I would never disclose that information to anyone else, ever.

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Warda Kawabata

Amityville Horror

Join date: 4 Nov 2005

Posts: 1,300

07-04-2006 22:37

Those who give up their freedom for security will find they have neither freedom nor security.

Much as I dislike the abuse of alt accounts, there are legitimate uses for them too, which would be harmed by revealing this kind of information.

MadamG Zagato

means business

Join date: 17 Sep 2005

Posts: 1,402

07-04-2006 23:03

From: Khashai Steinbeck

I would never, ever, divulge information about my alts to anyone except my closest friends. The reason I have alts is so I can be left alone. Sometimes I get a little tired of answering hundreds of IMs a day, the alts provide me with a way to escape from this, if only for a short time.

The same thing goes for my friends' alts. I would never disclose that information to anyone else, ever.

Don't be so sure about this. Not you personally...but you'd be surprised how much information L$1000 will get you these days.

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Mackenzie Cramer

Sweet Insanity

Join date: 20 Apr 2006

Posts: 85

07-05-2006 01:13

From: Chip Midnight

I wouldn't support this idea. Some people use alts to escape griefing. What I would support is having suspensions and bannings apply to all accounts on a single CC or IP. If you get your alt banned your main goes with it. No exceptions.

so how do you determine what's an alt and what's a legitimate account? my mother father and sister all have SL accounts... so if my sister causes Havok we're all gon?
nope don't think so.

Luthien Unsung

Registered User

Join date: 13 Feb 2005

Posts: 409

07-05-2006 01:20

From: Chip Midnight

I wouldn't support this idea. Some people use alts to escape griefing. What I would support is having suspensions and bannings apply to all accounts on a single CC or IP. If you get your alt banned your main goes with it. No exceptions.

Well that is fine EXCEPT that many RL spouses etc share a CC.

Warda Kawabata

Amityville Horror

Join date: 4 Nov 2005

Posts: 1,300

07-05-2006 01:22

From: Luthien Unsung

Well that is fine EXCEPT that many RL spouses etc share a CC.

Isn't it nice how SL will encourage spouses (spice?) to be nice to each other?

Lohan Lindsay

Registered User

Join date: 5 Jul 2006

Posts: 9

07-05-2006 01:27

What's an alt?

Warda Kawabata

Amityville Horror

Join date: 4 Nov 2005

Posts: 1,300

07-05-2006 01:29

From: Lohan Lindsay

What's an alt?

Aboriginal Linguistic Technician. What they have to do with Semantic Linguistics should be really obvious. Come on, anyone would think you're new to these boards.

Willow Zander

Having Blahgasms

Join date: 22 May 2004

Posts: 9,935

07-05-2006 01:31

I don't really care either way anymore, but there ARE some peoples alts I would like to see outed, pretending to be a n00b to try and gain sales/stalk people/generaly asshat about is pretty damn sad.

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Selador Cellardoor

Registered User

Join date: 16 Nov 2003

Posts: 3,082

07-05-2006 05:06

Blimey - this thread has been both Godwined *and* necroposted!

*impressed*

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PetGirl Bergman

Fellow Creature:-)

Join date: 16 Feb 2005

Posts: 2,414

07-05-2006 05:20

Oh myyyyy.... the profile box must be larger than the screen can show.. for many.-... and prob also scare away a lot of people that pay for having alts..

/Tina and her EXAKT alt.

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Ghoti Nyak

καλλιστι

Join date: 7 Aug 2004

Posts: 2,078

07-05-2006 05:36

It's no one's business what alts a person might have. It would be an extremely stupid idea to require all alts listed in profiles as this ruins the reasons for having alts in the first place. A better idea is to bring back some form of verification so that LL can tie accounts to actual RL people. There is ZERO reason that information should go any further than just LL.

-Ghoti

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Siobhan Taylor

Nemesis

Join date: 13 Aug 2003

Posts: 5,476

07-05-2006 05:49

All alts should be named in all profiles... not just alts of that alt, but all alts... everybodys alts, and mains... and and and... oh wait... 300,000 line profiles... let's get a bigger dataloss server

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Timmins Hamilton

Registered User

Join date: 15 May 2004

Posts: 68

07-05-2006 05:51

From: Tcoz Bach

Ok. So, everybody wants griefers to be able to hide behind their alts, and we all know that banning/Linden action is laughably ineffective. I also fail to understand why, in a game that is about society, people have such a strong desire to run away from their mains, but that's just me. I never use alts and have never liked them in any game I've ever played. If I had one in SL I would have no issue at all publishing that I was the owner and being completely open about it. I am who I am in SL and have no desire to hide from it. But admittedly that is a personal sentiment and apparently an unpopular one.

Anyway, perhaps list other ideas instead of just shooting down one of the two proposed? How do you prevent the rampant abuse of alts in this game, with the understanding that asking the Lindens to get more involved is more than unlikely?

Those of us that run businesses in SL sometimes are so bombarded by IMs that the only way that we can get to spend any time to actually relax in SL is to log on as an alt. Why should that be taken away? Its not running and hiding. Having your alts on display would be a little like having your work telephone redirected to your house when you left for the day.

Timmins Hamilton

Registered User

Join date: 15 May 2004

Posts: 68

07-05-2006 05:59

From: Roseann Flora

That's a good idea.

Single CC has already been covered - they may be more than one person using one CC..... and of course that is pretty much a moot point now as CC info is not needed.

As for IP banning - this is not really practical as IPs are not constant. I could get banned reset my router and get a different IP and someone else gets banned because they have my ip.

Karmianna Hartunian

Registered User

Join date: 2 Jan 2006

Posts: 52

Keeps honest people honest

07-05-2006 06:57

From: billy Madison

Wouldnt really work. I have over 13 credit cards and i can call my isp and get them to assign me a new ip on a whim. There has to be another way.

The basic thing we need IMHO is something that makes it a little more difficult to make an alt for the purpose of griefing then just logging off and on.

If someone really wants to grief I suppose no matter what LL does short of coming to thier house and placing them under 24 hour guard in an all plastic enclosure suspended over a 100 meter pit which is onyl reachable by an extendable bridge which is guarded by 3 armed guards who scan all those entering the area for metal and electronics ohh wait that didnt work either:=(

Eat More Cookies
Karmi

Annah Zamboni

Banannah Annah

Join date: 2 Jun 2004

Posts: 1,022

07-05-2006 06:59

Im fine with this as long as the Lindens have their alts posted as well.

Chri5 Somme

:)

Join date: 18 Nov 2005

Posts: 204

07-05-2006 07:21

From: Chip Midnight

I wouldn't support this idea. Some people use alts to escape griefing. What I would support is having suspensions and bannings apply to all accounts on a single CC or IP. If you get your alt banned your main goes with it. No exceptions.

some people are on shared networks, lan houses, computer coffee shops etc. Wouldn't work. sry. But what they could do is ban your mac address.

Rael Riel

Registered User

Join date: 22 Apr 2006

Posts: 31

07-05-2006 08:13

I think everyones phone and address should also be listed in the profile. Maybe even credit card number. For USA players a mandatory ssn should be required. That'll stop those d@mn griefers!

Rose Karuna

Lizard Doctor

Join date: 5 Jun 2004

Posts: 3,772

07-05-2006 10:43

What is this "Alt Abuse"?

I just want to clear the record and state that I have NEVER abused my Alt. She gets the best. Clothes, shoes and I even give her cash. I let her go to the best events while I work. In fact, my alt gets better treatment than I do.

.

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RoseAlba Lafleur

An Alt of an Alt

Join date: 30 Jun 2006

Posts: 6

07-05-2006 10:46

From: Rose Karuna

What is this "Alt Abuse"?

I just want to clear the record and state that I have NEVER abused my Alt. She gets the best. Clothes, shoes and I even give her cash. I let her go to the best events while I work. In fact, my alt gets better treatment than I do.

.

For the record - Rose Karuna is cheap, she stole my shoe and the bitch refused to buy me the Chip Midnight skin I wanted.

.

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Selador Cellardoor

Registered User

Join date: 16 Nov 2003

Posts: 3,082

07-05-2006 13:08

Aw. We have to do something about these mains.

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Rhynalae Eldrich

Doodle Dabbler

Join date: 14 Feb 2006

Posts: 61

07-05-2006 13:30

From: Rael Riel

For USA players a mandatory ssn should be required.

Yes, the Federal government would applaud for anything that made it a little easier to tax people on their in-game income.

Don't forget blood type, retinal scans, and fingerprints. We must be thorough.

ALL ALTS listed in your profile
Gabe Lippmann "Phone's ringing, Dude." Join date: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 4,219	07-04-2006 18:27 From: MadamG Zagato Not only that but some people actually pay for an additional account. So which is the alt of either account? You just made my head explode. My alt is still OK though. _____________________ go to Nocturnal Threads
MadamG Zagato means business Join date: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 1,402	07-04-2006 18:28 From: Gabe Lippmann You just made my head explode. My alt is still OK though. LOL Gabe _____________________
Khashai Steinbeck A drop in the Biomass. Join date: 15 Oct 2005 Posts: 283	07-04-2006 22:32 I would never, ever, divulge information about my alts to anyone except my closest friends. The reason I have alts is so I can be left alone. Sometimes I get a little tired of answering hundreds of IMs a day, the alts provide me with a way to escape from this, if only for a short time. The same thing goes for my friends' alts. I would never disclose that information to anyone else, ever. _____________________
Warda Kawabata Amityville Horror Join date: 4 Nov 2005 Posts: 1,300	07-04-2006 22:37 Those who give up their freedom for security will find they have neither freedom nor security. Much as I dislike the abuse of alt accounts, there are legitimate uses for them too, which would be harmed by revealing this kind of information.
MadamG Zagato means business Join date: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 1,402	07-04-2006 23:03 From: Khashai Steinbeck I would never, ever, divulge information about my alts to anyone except my closest friends. The reason I have alts is so I can be left alone. Sometimes I get a little tired of answering hundreds of IMs a day, the alts provide me with a way to escape from this, if only for a short time. The same thing goes for my friends' alts. I would never disclose that information to anyone else, ever. Don't be so sure about this. Not you personally...but you'd be surprised how much information L$1000 will get you these days. _____________________
Mackenzie Cramer Sweet Insanity Join date: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 85	07-05-2006 01:13 From: Chip Midnight I wouldn't support this idea. Some people use alts to escape griefing. What I would support is having suspensions and bannings apply to all accounts on a single CC or IP. If you get your alt banned your main goes with it. No exceptions. so how do you determine what's an alt and what's a legitimate account? my mother father and sister all have SL accounts... so if my sister causes Havok we're all gon? nope don't think so.
Luthien Unsung Registered User Join date: 13 Feb 2005 Posts: 409	07-05-2006 01:20 From: Chip Midnight I wouldn't support this idea. Some people use alts to escape griefing. What I would support is having suspensions and bannings apply to all accounts on a single CC or IP. If you get your alt banned your main goes with it. No exceptions. Well that is fine EXCEPT that many RL spouses etc share a CC.
Warda Kawabata Amityville Horror Join date: 4 Nov 2005 Posts: 1,300	07-05-2006 01:22 From: Luthien Unsung Well that is fine EXCEPT that many RL spouses etc share a CC. Isn't it nice how SL will encourage spouses (spice?) to be nice to each other?
Lohan Lindsay Registered User Join date: 5 Jul 2006 Posts: 9	07-05-2006 01:27 What's an alt?
Warda Kawabata Amityville Horror Join date: 4 Nov 2005 Posts: 1,300	07-05-2006 01:29 From: Lohan Lindsay What's an alt? Aboriginal Linguistic Technician. What they have to do with Semantic Linguistics should be really obvious. Come on, anyone would think you're new to these boards.
Willow Zander Having Blahgasms Join date: 22 May 2004 Posts: 9,935	07-05-2006 01:31 I don't really care either way anymore, but there ARE some peoples alts I would like to see outed, pretending to be a n00b to try and gain sales/stalk people/generaly asshat about is pretty damn sad. _____________________ *I'm not ready for the world outside...I keep pretending, but I just can't hide...* "Notice that the stiffest tree is most easily cracked, while the bamboo or willow survives by bending with the wind." <3 Giddeon's <3
Selador Cellardoor Registered User Join date: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 3,082	07-05-2006 05:06 Blimey - this thread has been both Godwined and necroposted! impressed _____________________
PetGirl Bergman Fellow Creature:-) Join date: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 2,414	07-05-2006 05:20 Oh myyyyy.... the profile box must be larger than the screen can show.. for many.-... and prob also scare away a lot of people that pay for having alts.. /Tina and her EXAKT alt. _____________________
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	07-05-2006 05:36 It's no one's business what alts a person might have. It would be an extremely stupid idea to require all alts listed in profiles as this ruins the reasons for having alts in the first place. A better idea is to bring back some form of verification so that LL can tie accounts to actual RL people. There is ZERO reason that information should go any further than just LL. -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
Siobhan Taylor Nemesis Join date: 13 Aug 2003 Posts: 5,476	07-05-2006 05:49 All alts should be named in all profiles... not just alts of that alt, but all alts... everybodys alts, and mains... and and and... oh wait... 300,000 line profiles... let's get a bigger dataloss server _____________________ http://siobhantaylor.wordpress.com/
Timmins Hamilton Registered User Join date: 15 May 2004 Posts: 68	07-05-2006 05:51 From: Tcoz Bach Ok. So, everybody wants griefers to be able to hide behind their alts, and we all know that banning/Linden action is laughably ineffective. I also fail to understand why, in a game that is about society, people have such a strong desire to run away from their mains, but that's just me. I never use alts and have never liked them in any game I've ever played. If I had one in SL I would have no issue at all publishing that I was the owner and being completely open about it. I am who I am in SL and have no desire to hide from it. But admittedly that is a personal sentiment and apparently an unpopular one. Anyway, perhaps list other ideas instead of just shooting down one of the two proposed? How do you prevent the rampant abuse of alts in this game, with the understanding that asking the Lindens to get more involved is more than unlikely? Those of us that run businesses in SL sometimes are so bombarded by IMs that the only way that we can get to spend any time to actually relax in SL is to log on as an alt. Why should that be taken away? Its not running and hiding. Having your alts on display would be a little like having your work telephone redirected to your house when you left for the day.
Timmins Hamilton Registered User Join date: 15 May 2004 Posts: 68	07-05-2006 05:59 From: Roseann Flora That's a good idea. Single CC has already been covered - they may be more than one person using one CC..... and of course that is pretty much a moot point now as CC info is not needed. As for IP banning - this is not really practical as IPs are not constant. I could get banned reset my router and get a different IP and someone else gets banned because they have my ip.
Karmianna Hartunian Registered User Join date: 2 Jan 2006 Posts: 52	Keeps honest people honest 07-05-2006 06:57 From: billy Madison Wouldnt really work. I have over 13 credit cards and i can call my isp and get them to assign me a new ip on a whim. There has to be another way. The basic thing we need IMHO is something that makes it a little more difficult to make an alt for the purpose of griefing then just logging off and on. If someone really wants to grief I suppose no matter what LL does short of coming to thier house and placing them under 24 hour guard in an all plastic enclosure suspended over a 100 meter pit which is onyl reachable by an extendable bridge which is guarded by 3 armed guards who scan all those entering the area for metal and electronics ohh wait that didnt work either:=( Eat More Cookies Karmi
Annah Zamboni Banannah Annah Join date: 2 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,022	07-05-2006 06:59 Im fine with this as long as the Lindens have their alts posted as well.
Chri5 Somme :) Join date: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 204	07-05-2006 07:21 From: Chip Midnight I wouldn't support this idea. Some people use alts to escape griefing. What I would support is having suspensions and bannings apply to all accounts on a single CC or IP. If you get your alt banned your main goes with it. No exceptions. some people are on shared networks, lan houses, computer coffee shops etc. Wouldn't work. sry. But what they could do is ban your mac address.
Rael Riel Registered User Join date: 22 Apr 2006 Posts: 31	07-05-2006 08:13 I think everyones phone and address should also be listed in the profile. Maybe even credit card number. For USA players a mandatory ssn should be required. That'll stop those d@mn griefers!
Rose Karuna Lizard Doctor Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,772	07-05-2006 10:43 What is this "Alt Abuse"? I just want to clear the record and state that I have NEVER abused my Alt. She gets the best. Clothes, shoes and I even give her cash. I let her go to the best events while I work. In fact, my alt gets better treatment than I do. . _____________________ I Do Whatever My Rice Krispies Tell Me To
RoseAlba Lafleur An Alt of an Alt Join date: 30 Jun 2006 Posts: 6	07-05-2006 10:46 From: Rose Karuna What is this "Alt Abuse"? I just want to clear the record and state that I have NEVER abused my Alt. She gets the best. Clothes, shoes and I even give her cash. I let her go to the best events while I work. In fact, my alt gets better treatment than I do. . For the record - Rose Karuna is cheap, she stole my shoe and the bitch refused to buy me the Chip Midnight skin I wanted. . _____________________ Gardens and Wombats are wonderful things.
Selador Cellardoor Registered User Join date: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 3,082	07-05-2006 13:08 Aw. We have to do something about these mains. _____________________
Rhynalae Eldrich Doodle Dabbler Join date: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 61	07-05-2006 13:30 From: Rael Riel For USA players a mandatory ssn should be required. Yes, the Federal government would applaud for anything that made it a little easier to tax people on their in-game income. Don't forget blood type, retinal scans, and fingerprints. We must be thorough.

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