Suicide Girls Redux

/me bows gravely

There is nothing in the rules that says posts have to be fair.

Sometimes things are said half in jest. And to point out job opportunities for scripters.

Attention scripters: if making scripted porno systems using the new script camera movement, remember to allow at at least 5 minutes for any particles used to simulate fluids to change from opaque gray cardboard with white tape on the edge to the desired fluid texture.

Well, they look like regular folks, i.e., customers, to me. And I think I like the equation above even less.

coco

THey aren't just standard customers. The site is a high traffic internet site that has the potential to drive a significant amount of new users to SL - that is the incentive for SL, and the value of the project to them. This is a marketing relationship. I imagine if you had a community that could bring in a large amount of new users by subtlely marketing to them, you could get yourself a deal too.

THAT DOESN'T MATTER CRISTIANO EVERYONE MUST BE EQUAL

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Cocoanut's beat has never been Wall Street.

I think you'll find that I am rather more offended by all the attacks on me than you are by me making a statement.

So the bottom line is that every time LL do something that anyone dislikes, instead of sharing their opinion and discussing the matter we should just quietly leave because SL obviously isn't for us.

That will basically leave nothing but camping chair zombies. Is that the sort of SL you want to play?

Lewis

But are visitors to a porn site going to benefit the community as a whole.... or just sign up on a free account, hang around the sleazy parts of SL and get their virtual nads off so they can tell their friends they had sex with a model last night?

There are plenty of high traffic sites out there that would have no doubt been interested in a deal like this...... and caused a lot less uproar.

Lewis

The self-righteous mewlings of half a dozen people do not an uproar make. Though your self-aggrandizement is impressive.

It seems that you're making more of an uproar about it, I'm just stating my opinion. How come you're still posting anyway?

Lewis

I know you are hell bent as portraying all people who visit porn sites and enjoy such things as immoral losers who can't possibly benefit SL, but what makes you think that would be their only interest. Are you that singularly minded that you only have one interest? What makes you think others are that way? People can have more than one interest you know. It's incredibly judgemental of you, and just smacks of the holier than thou attitude you continue to display throughout this thread.

People who enjoy the site are no more or less valid to have as residents than any other community of people. You would do well to stop making so many assumptions about people you don't even know. We get it, you are unhappy that they chose a porn site because you don't like porn, but quit bashing people you don't even know. They have just as much right to be here, and just as much value to SL as you do. Among that group of worthless jackoff freaks you are so opposed to may be incredibly talented builders, scripters, or people who just enjoy SL.

PS - I happen to like certain porn sites, and had I discovered SL through one of them, the adult nature of it would have piqued my curiousity. What would have captured my attention was the utter freedom that we have in SL to live our SL as we see fit, not as someone else defines it.

So how come I don't have the utter freedom to live my SL as I see fit, ie porn free? I don't have that option if I want to go anywhere except the land that I own, and I'm being blasted for even thinking that is a valid form of gameplay.

Lewis

You 100% have that option, on your land that you pay for - zero porn. You also never ever have to set foot outside of a PG sim. THey are set up specificially for people like yourself that want to avoid adult themes, and those that want them can be in M sims. There are all kinds of places you can go to in SL and not encounter porn. Hell I can't remember the last time I just stumbled across it anyway, and I own 115,000m of land in M sims. I notice you didn't address the main part of my post.

What should the amount of land you own have anything to do with the subject at hand?

There aren't enough PG sims on the grid.... that point has been addressed many times. So that argument doesn't work either.

Not sure exactly what the 'main part' of your post was anyway.... if you're talking about the fact that they have the right to be here..... yes, you are right, and I agree totally.... that isn't the issue though.

The issue is the poor judgement on LL's part by the choice of the method of getting them here. If SG wanted to come here of their own accord and set up something to enhance their business, that's their concern. The fact that LL approached them and set up a special deal (which is including, but not limited to, a unique surname that isn't available to the general playerbase, and is considered offensive to some anyway) to get them here, effectively endorsing a porn site, is what concerns me about this whole issue. I believe Wilder Linden is merely 'holding' the land they have as part of this 'experiment' .... but whether they will stay when they realise how much it's going to cost them is another matter. Assuming, of course, they will be subjected to the same terms and conditions as the rest of us - and if they are not, then that is a separate problem altogether.

Lewis

I realy wish LL would drop the pretence of being all about education and art. This was a business deal, the details are none of my business.

However I think they could of chosen something a bit less dhrama-tic to "test" this on.
After all they had several choices for "communities":

nvidia user groups
mmorpg communities
fashion and style sites
3d modeling communities
texture artist sites
...

But Sex sells.

Word of mouth (bites toungue as I realy want to make a bad oral sex joke here) to who their clients. That should make for some interesting things to come. Pun intended.

I think my passion for SL has just about run its course. What ever brings in the cash I guess.

OMG rolling! SuezanneC LOL you slay me

Well concern yourself no more - from Wilder Linden himself on the locked thread - reposted here once already by myself



Relevant parts bolded AND underlined because just bolding them last time didn't make it noticable enough.

*sigh* when will they invent 'sticky to fucking brain' for these forums.

Q. Why did Linden Lab do this?

A. There is an interest in seeing how existing web communities can extend what they offer members by having a virtual space where they can meet and interact. The Suicide Girls have a very active community and Second Life is a good fit for them to be able to meet and greet each other as well as their site members.

Oh please. What I read is "We can offer a virtual space for them to serve their clients in."

Woo hoo, bring on the clients maybe they when they are done with their business transaction they will buy some hair, clothes, skins, fake penis, and bling

Please don't expect me to get all "excited" over this "community" it's a business deal lets not make it into something sweet and lovely; when its just porn and a virual space to service their clients. geez.

It's just business, right

If this is your first night, YOU HAVE TO DO PORN!!!

Ok, going to bed LOL

Who asked you to get "excited" over this "community"?

Right.

I love it when people make blanket statements about a group of people.

Have you bothered going in-world to talk to the Suicide girls? No?

Oh. Because if you did, you'd find that they're not marketing whores slathering for attention for their website. Instead they're regular SL users with the last name of Suicide.

Oh noes.

Did they come from an adult-themed community? Yes. But oh noes! We're an adult themed community. And we have MUCH worse things going on every second than SG could come up with in 3 years.

SG doesn't have horse porn. SL does.

SG doesn't have 30-foot prim penises. SL does.

SG doesn't do ageplay. SL does.

SG doesn't do Gorean Bondage. SL does.

SG doesn't have escort services. SL does.

Moral high ground: Suicide Girls, 5 to 0.

Once again, for al the talk of people claiming to be painted with a broad brush, they sure love to judge entire groups of people without ever talking to them.

But you wouldn't want to anyway, they act all different than you, dress different, even talk different! Gotta protect the childroons from their devil ways.

Whatever. You can keep your Victorian-era prudishness; the rest of us will be joining humanity in the 21st century.

Ok once more, and the emphasis is mine:

*wild clapping*

thank you.

As such I've been too frickin busy at work to be my usual retarded self in world - but I do hope to catch up at some point, if for no other reason than to show that the forums do NOT represent what SL is all about.

Let's hope that they realise that you also do not represent all that SL is.

Lewis

Christiano..... there are other groups currently in negotiation with LL regarding the same kind of 'in world presence'.

Do you find it strange that a number of independent and totally unconnected groups all happened to come up with the same idea about starting something in SL and contacting LL at about the same time... or is it just possible that LL approached a group of organisations?

Wilder Linden contacted me in game last night, having seen this debate on the forums, to try and clear up some of the issues. I did ask whether I had permission to share any of our discussion on the forum, and it was given.

I don't need to share the whole discussion but you might like to read this extract:

Wilder Linden: what would be really helpful
Wilder Linden: is if you could share with me some groups that you think might
Wilder Linden: add to that type of presence in SL
Wilder Linden: and i can certainly extend myself to them as well

Wilder is happy to approach any groups that I think might be interested in coming into SL, if I pass on details. Doesn't that totally contradict the big "No" that you posted?

Lewis

LOL you haven't even bothered to read my posts have you. I got as far as "marketing whores slathering for attention for their website" and I stopped reading yours. Geez at least find out what my point of view is before you out and out attack me.

ROFLMAO some ppl. If I was them I would be pissed at you